AndyAK79 wrote...
Kel Riever wrote...
AndyAK79 wrote...
I'm not using a special definition, I'm using the standard definition in English in this context. According to the OED:
a sense of resolution or conclusion at the end of an artistic work:he brings modernistic closure to his narrative
I agree that my definition is narrower then, but I also argue that even by the one you use, none of the 3 movies I mentioned reaches closure. They simply end, purposely, withouth closure.
Edit: By the way, note that 'modernistic closure' is not defined here. Unless you want to go and put your own definition forth so I understand what it is you consider closure. From what I see, 'modernistic closure' is a problematic term so in this case, the OED is quite failing. Though I certainly respect their attempt.
I can't speak for No Country for Old Men because I haven't seen it, but both Twelve Monkeys and Inception reach closure. The plot threads in both films are neatly tidied up; the narrative reaches 'resolution' and 'conclusion.'
As for your 'edit,' I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Firstly "he brings modernistic closure to his narrative" is the example of how to use the word 'closure' in a sentence, not part of the definition. Therefore what 'modernistic closure' is is entirely irrelevant.
Secondly OED stands for Oxford English Dictionary. It more or less defines the English language and suggesting that they are somehow failing in their comprehension and explanation of a word almost certainly says more about you than it does about them.
Now you took this to being a jerk level so really, you are undermining your own so called desire to have a debate. If you actually want to have a debate, google modernistic closure and you'll see there's not some 'Oxford standard definition of it'
What I really feel is you have no desire to consider an opposing point of view, despite starting this thread. Nor do you really want to consider anything but your own point of view. And that fuels your need to be insulting. Really, what happens here is you should step up and note what I am saying isn't because I can't understand your point of view, but because there are legitimate points to debate.
But you're falling into the trap of being condescending whereas I have no time for that. At least I do but for the people who put this game together which is well within my rights as a person who bought the game. I'll never come down on someone for liking something that isn't the best thing ever, that's personal taste. But you aren't even being objective anymore, despite the attempt that you are.
Twelve monkeys and Inception were finished and ended. And did not achieve closure because simply put, you are left to figure out the end for yourself, and they were done well in that regard. That is not closure. To say otherwise is as narrow a point of view as you accuse me of having and no you aren't going by the definition of anything in the English language either, but something simply subjective.
I can't really see you claiming any convincing argument at this point, at least not on the basis of anything intellectual. Moving on now. Go ahead and have some last words if you must.
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