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[Quill74Pen]

In DA2, players witnessed firsthand (via a quest) that sexual relations between male humans and female elves result in the births of, well, human children. It's part of the reason that elven populations isolate themselves.

My question is: What are the odds that, in DAI, we will see children that are the result of a male elf and female human falling in love? And, if so, would the children bear the father's racial qualities, or the mother's?

The overall question being, is it the males of any given race that determine a child's race if the male and a female of another race consumate a relationship? Would a dwarven male and an elven female produce a dwarven child? How about a dwarven male and a human female? Or, more far out, a Qunari male and an elven female? Or how about a child resulting from a relationship between a human male and a Qunari female?

All I know is that elven females will bear human children if the fathers are human, and they'll bear elven children if the fathers are, well, elven.

But how far does this concept extend? Is it something that's limited to elven females? Or does it affect the females of every sentient, hominid species in Thedas?

[Cainhurst Crow]

Elf + Human = Human.

Dwarf + Human = Half-dwarf/Possible Sandals.

Qunari + Human = Sten

Qunari + Elf = Qunari

Elf + Dwarf = Tyrion Lannister/possibly sandal

Qunari + Dwarf = Mabari

Modifié par Darth Brotarian, 10 octobre 2013 - 07:34 .

[Fardreamer]

Zevran's father was human I think. He looked more elven. But Fanryel in DA2 looked mostly human. I think BW just hasn't figured out how it should all work yet. We also haven't seen any dwarf/human, dwarf/qunari, dwarf/elf, qunari/elf offspring.

[Annie_Dear]

Fardreamer wrote...

Zevran's father was human I think. He looked more elven. But Fanryel in DA2 looked mostly human. I think BW just hasn't figured out how it should all work yet. We also haven't seen any dwarf/human, dwarf/qunari, dwarf/elf, qunari/elf offspring.

No, Zevran's father was an elf. If his father was human, then he'd be one too.

[bubs]

Feynriel looks more half-elf than human to me, due to facial structure. Also why would the Dalish accept him?

[Tora Panthera]

Gaider touches on this subject back in the times before DAII
Elves of any gender will have off-spring of the race they mate with.
And dwarves and humans will make half dwarves, that supposedly are tall dwarf or small humans, depending on your perspective.
He also hinted at that the reason elves' genes are always dominated had something to do with magic.

[iOnlySignIn]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Elf + Human = Sandal

Dwarf + Human = Sandal

Qunari + Human = Sandal

Qunari + Elf = Sandal

Elf + Dwarf = Sandal

Qunari + Dwarf = Sandal

ftfy

[elvici]

ragewin wrote...

Feynriel looks more half-elf than human to me, due to facial structure. Also why would the Dalish accept him?

Feynriel actually does have a unique facial model (I know - I tried using it when converting Fenris into a half-elf, but it caused all manner of animation glitches). That said, a certain illegitimate prince/potential king is living testimony to the humanization of half-elves... 

Why should the Dalish reject poor old Feynriel, btw? His mother grew up among them, so there's no question of his Dalish ancestry - and he's got that whole sheepyface thing going on, big time. 

Modifié par elvici, 10 octobre 2013 - 12:34 .

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Well, Dalish lore states that they 'quickened' and lost their immortality due to proximity to humans. Theoretically the elves can never regain their immortality if they continue to associate with men, and Feynriel being a half-breed...

To some tribes, it'd be like living with a person who's got a highly contagious disease.

[Usergnome]

To be clear: Even if the father is Elven and the mother is human/any other race, the child will never be elven (Or even half elven, or any elven). They have to be purely bred.

Modifié par Usergnome, 10 octobre 2013 - 01:00 .

[Fast Jimmy]

Usergnome wrote...

To be clear: Even if the father is Elven and the mother is human/any other race, the child will never be elven (Or even half elven, or any elven). They have to be purely bred.

Eugenics terminology FTW!

[mousestalker]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Usergnome wrote...

To be clear: Even if the father is Elven and the mother is human/any other race, the child will never be elven (Or even half elven, or any elven). They have to be purely bred.

Eugenics terminology FTW!

Don't blame the poster (Usergnome), that's straight from the mouth o'Gaider.

[Medhia Nox]

Oh man, the reproduction talk...

Okay, here goes....

When a mommy elf and a daddy human love each other very, very much...

[Stroke1986]

So elves basicly the anti Asari

[Chari]

The only three types of offspring I want to see are qunarixdwarf, qunarixelf, elfxdwarf. Though I suspect that because elves have weak genes, their kids will always be of the opposite race (dwarf or qunari) just like with humans

[Br3admax]

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

Well, Dalish lore states that they 'quickened' and lost their immortality due to proximity to humans. Theoretically the elves can never regain their immortality if they continue to associate with men, and Feynriel being a half-breed...

To some tribes, it'd be like living with a person who's got a highly contagious disease.

Accordng to dev lore, they might have never been immortal in the first place. 

Second, there are no "half breeds," and I hate the term; we are not bred for the specific purpose of some old British lady who wanted a hand bag dog. People are people. Back to the point, they may have elf blood, but they are still wholey whatever the other race was. 

Modifié par Br3ad, 10 octobre 2013 - 01:53 .

[Beerfish]

Well you see there is this stork....

[Azrielon]

ragewin wrote...

Also why would the Dalish accept him?

I would imagine that the fact that he was a mage, would be reason enough to risk it, in their minds anyways. Ofcourse Marethari's clan was in a bit of a bind at the time, so who knows if most clans would be willing to take on a human born elf.

[Iakus]

ragewin wrote...

Feynriel looks more half-elf than human to me, due to facial structure. Also why would the Dalish accept him?

He looks like a human with delicate features to me.  "Elfin" look, but still human

[drome34]

So elves are like white people?

[elvici]

drome34 wrote...

So elves are like white people?

  Only white people in America. Believe it or not, most people outside the States don't reflexively label themselves according to their racial phenotype. 

Modifié par elvici, 10 octobre 2013 - 03:41 .

[Han Shot First]

Technically interracial children don't exist in Thedas.

A child born from a union between a human and an elf for example, will always be 100% human. Think of the humans as the Asari of Thedas. They can mate with any sapient species, but the children are always human.

[cjones91]

Medhia Nox wrote...

Oh man, the reproduction talk...

Okay, here goes....

When a mommy elf and a daddy human love each other very, very much...

Lol,most of the time it's"Mommy Elf was forced to sleep with the daddy human because she had no choice."Of course that does'nt happen all the time but considering how elves are treated in Thedas the above sentence seems like a common occurrence.

[cjones91]

elvici wrote...

drome34 wrote...

So elves are like white people?

  Only white people in America. Believe it or not, most people outside the States don't reflexively label themselves according to their racial phenotype. 

All ethnic groups label themselves based on their race.

[Iakus]

Han Shot First wrote...

Technically interracial children don't exist in Thedas.

A child born from a union between a human and an elf for example, will always be 100% human. Think of the humans as the Asari of Thedas. They can mate with any sapient species, but the children are always human.

There are supposed to be "half-dwarves" out there from human-dwarf pairings.  But they're very rare.  And we haven't had any confirmed appearances of them yet.