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[Silfren]

Angrywolves wrote...

Agree Bioware hasn't figured out what to do about the issue.

Except they figured established elf+human= total, 100% human, years ago, and Gaider has strongly hinted that they do in fact know exactly where they're going with this. 

Modifié par Silfren, 10 octobre 2013 - 10:32 .

[Maria Caliban]

Elf + Human = Human.

These humans might be slender with a narrow chin, but they could also be Alistar.

[Si-Shen]

During the DA:O days, the devs said that, as stated above me:

Elf + Human = Human (we see this in DA2)

They also mentioned dwarves before, although the only one I recall is:

Dwarf + Human = Shorter Human.

I don't know what a D + E = though...

[Silfren]

Si-Shen wrote...

During the DA:O days, the devs said that, as stated above me:

Elf + Human = Human (we see this in DA2)

They also mentioned dwarves before, although the only one I recall is:

Dwarf + Human = Shorter Human.

I don't know what a D + E = though...

Consensus seems to be that any elf pairing with another race will produce a child soly of the other race.

[wcholcombe]

Hmm maybe the whole idea of "quickening" is just a justification for elf purity.
As in the elves were never immortal but realized they were being bred into extinction through continuous socialization with humans....

That would be an interesting dynamic

[Adela]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Elf + Human = Human.

Dwarf + Human = Half-dwarf/Possible Sandals.

Qunari + Human = Sten

Qunari + Elf = Qunari

Elf + Dwarf = Tyrion Lannister/possibly sandal

Qunari + Dwarf = Mabari

LOL this just made my day, thank you:lol:

[Clockwork_Wings]

Fardreamer wrote...

Zevran's father was human I think. He looked more elven. But Fanryel in DA2 looked mostly human. I think BW just hasn't figured out how it should all work yet. We also haven't seen any dwarf/human, dwarf/qunari, dwarf/elf, qunari/elf offspring.

You raise a valid point.  As I understand it, with current lore the result of an elf + a human always = a human.  Although as I recall, Zevran only said his father was a woodsman or some such and lived in a human city.  He may have been a city elf.

[Fast Jimmy]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Elf + Human = Human.

These humans might be slender with a narrow chin, but they could also be Alistar.

Your mother!



I don't know what that even means, it just seemed right.

[Versus Omnibus]

Silfren wrote...

Angrywolves wrote...

Agree Bioware hasn't figured out what to do about the issue.

Except they figured established elf+human= total, 100% human, years ago, and Gaider has strongly hinted that they do in fact know exactly where they're going with this. 

Do you have a link? I've always been curious what children an elf and dwarf would produce since I had a female dwarf Warden paired with Zevran.

[Br3admax]

Versus Omnibus wrote...

Silfren wrote...

Angrywolves wrote...

Agree Bioware hasn't figured out what to do about the issue.

Except they figured established elf+human= total, 100% human, years ago, and Gaider has strongly hinted that they do in fact know exactly where they're going with this. 

Do you have a link? I've always been curious what children an elf and dwarf would produce since I had a female dwarf Warden paired with Zevran.

Again, the child of an elf and another race will be the other race. 

[Silfren]

Versus Omnibus wrote...

Silfren wrote...

Angrywolves wrote...

Agree Bioware hasn't figured out what to do about the issue.

Except they figured established elf+human= total, 100% human, years ago, and Gaider has strongly hinted that they do in fact know exactly where they're going with this. 

Do you have a link? I've always been curious what children an elf and dwarf would produce since I had a female dwarf Warden paired with Zevran.

Unfortunately, I don't have a link, no, but yes, it's true, per word of Gaider.  It's referenced in the book The Calling and I think it's mentioned a time or two in Origins via codices.  I've no doubt that someone else could probably cough up a link to Gaider's words on the subject.

[Reaver102]

Dwarf plus Elf is still a Dwarf, the person who said was Elves are the anti asari are correct in that unless its an elf +elf the offspring will always be another race due some magical reason.

[Rorschachinstein]

dwarf/elf hybrid?

[vertigomez]

^Seems legit.

[Absafraginlootly]

wcholcombe wrote...

Hmm maybe the whole idea of "quickening" is just a justification for elf purity.
As in the elves were never immortal but realized they were being bred into extinction through continuous socialization with humans....

That would be an interesting dynamic

I've often wondered this ^

[Clockwork_Wings]

Prior to finding out that human/elf offspring were always human, I figured the elves that looked more human (like the man from Magistrate's Orders) had more human in their bloodline, and ones that are less human looking, like the smuggler you can join, were more pureblooded.

As for Feynriel, I can believe that, while genetically human, he looks like his mother.

Modifié par Clockwork_Wings, 11 octobre 2013 - 04:15 .

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Br3ad wrote...

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

Well, Dalish lore states that they 'quickened' and lost their immortality due to proximity to humans. Theoretically the elves can never regain their immortality if they continue to associate with men, and Feynriel being a half-breed...

To some tribes, it'd be like living with a person who's got a highly contagious disease.

Accordng to dev lore, they might have never been immortal in the first place. 

So? The Dalish don't know that, or at least they don't believe that.

Second, there are no "half breeds," and I hate the term; we are not bred for the specific purpose of some old British lady who wanted a hand bag dog. People are people.

*sigh* In the context of the fantasy genre where stuff like Half-Elf, Half-Dwarf, Half-Orc and so on and so forth are the norm, it's a perfectly valid term when discussing stuff like this on a forum such as this.

I'm sorry if you hate the term. I don't disagree with 'people are people', it's true, but it's a pointless statement for the topic's intent which you seem to have missed: To quote the OP would the children bear the father's racial qualities, or the mother's?

What would the child of a female elf and a male dwarf generally look like, in terms of features that distinguish each species? Saying it has the blood of both, or that it doesn't matter because it's a person no matter what it looks like, while true, is inarguable, and a failure to answer the question at hand. 

Modifié par Shadow of Light Dragon, 11 octobre 2013 - 07:47 .

[leighzard]

iakus wrote...

There are supposed to be "half-dwarves" out there from human-dwarf pairings.  But they're very rare.  And we haven't had any confirmed appearances of them yet.

Dwarves have a crazy low birthrate.  Conception is generally unlikely, and is definitely discouraged with anyone outside of the dwarven race.  Noble hunters like Rica are allowed and even encouraged in an attempt to boost the dwindling dwarven population.

[Star fury]

leborum wrote...
Dwarves have a crazy low birthrate.  Conception is generally unlikely, and is definitely discouraged with anyone outside of the dwarven race.  Noble hunters like Rica are allowed and even encouraged in an attempt to boost the dwindling dwarven population.

Source?

[leighzard]

Here are some of David Gaider's comments on dwarven (and elven) reproduction.


Edit: Unless you meant the thing about noble hunting.  In which case, the codex says it's an accepted practice and notes the low fertility among dwarves.

Modifié par leborum, 11 octobre 2013 - 09:59 .

[drome34]

cjones91 wrote...

elvici wrote...

drome34 wrote...

So elves are like white people?

  Only white people in America. Believe it or not, most people outside the States don't reflexively label themselves according to their racial phenotype. 

All ethnic groups label themselves based on their race.

Im swedish and we definitely label ourselfs white or "blackheads". Anyone not white is a "blackhead". We are seeing more of this since we have this "great" multicultural society.

[maliluka]

Silfren wrote...

Fardreamer wrote...

Zevran's father was human I think. He looked more elven. But Fanryel in DA2 looked mostly human. I think BW just hasn't figured out how it should all work yet. We also haven't seen any dwarf/human, dwarf/qunari, dwarf/elf, qunari/elf offspring.

I've seen more than one person suggest that Zevran's father was an elf, but where does this even come from?  Zevran's father obviously had to have been an elf.

Zevran states his father was an Elven woodcutter, his mother was Dalish.  I just had this conversation with him, he is fully elven

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Zevran doesn't know who is father is. All he knows is that his mother tried to settle down with the woodcutter but ended up working in a brothel. However, his father must be an elf otherwise he wouldn't be.

Modifié par Jedi Master of Orion, 11 octobre 2013 - 06:51 .

[t0mm06]

Ajosraa wrote...

This to me shows elven influance in-line with a Half-Breed, reguardless of what some Dev said, Wich is why i thought it was influenced by racism.

yeh i agree regardless of what some dev says that totally looks like half elf and in no way just a slightly elfen looking person (which we get all the time in the real world as well)
Well by just some dev, it is one of the writers, but still that picture proves loads...
Well by one of the writers, he's one of the main/the main writers, but still that picture is totally sortof elfish kinda
Well by one of the main writers, the guy who writes loads of the lore and extra material...

[wcholcombe]

He looks like an effiminate human. What you think people who have very fine features and angular faces are half elves in the real world??

There is no such thing as a half elf in Thedas. Why is there this fascination with trying to have such.