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We don't prepare for every possible scenario, that's the thing. What if the base is guarded by a fleet. Guess what? You're screwed. What happens if it's revealed the collectors can live in a black hole and that's where you have to go? You're screwed. What we prepare for is simply believing we are attacking a base that will need tech and biotics even know we have nothing to support it.

Mordin was the only character we recruited that made sense because we needed a scientist to combat the seeker swarms(which was a known threat)

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I'd argue that has more to do with level design than the vehicle. Besides, that's one planet. 


Jumping around mountains searching for Geth outposts was a lof of fun as well. 

Like Reorte said, the Mako was fine at first, but it got tedious very quickly.

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Cthulhu42 wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

What does any of this have to do with ME's most depressing momements?

The massive drop in quality is pretty depressing.

Eh, I personally think ME1 is severely overrated.


False.

2 is the most overrated one(3 is the most underrated one).

Modifié par Seboist, 15 octobre 2013 - 10:44 .


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The contradiction between goofied people becoming reapers and sovereign having a distate for organics is the least of issues for me. That could easily be handwaved by saying the new collective concious' new perspective leaves it with said distaste.

Of course, since they preserve synthetic intelligences as well, perhaps sovereign was created by something like that. Or he just had a bad attitude.

What bugs me is that the derelect reaper's core looks just like that...a gigantic power/reactor core. There is no hint of a core entity shaped like the species it came from. So what's up with the human reaper?

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Necanor wrote...

Lathrim wrote...

I'd argue that has more to do with level design than the vehicle. Besides, that's one planet. 


Jumping around mountains searching for Geth outposts was a lof of fun as well. 

Like Reorte said, the Mako was fine at first, but it got tedious very quickly.

Mako was amazing on Virmire, Noveria and Illos.

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Cthulhu42 wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

What does any of this have to do with ME's most depressing momements?

The massive drop in quality is pretty depressing.

Eh, I personally think ME1 is severely overrated.


Exactly. 

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Seboist wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Eh, I personally think ME1 is severely overrated.


False.

2 is the most overrated one(3 is the most underrated one).


How can someone's opinion be false? 

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Seboist wrote...

False.

2 is the most overrated one(3 is the most underrated one).


Agreed.

(... but ME1 is still overrated.)

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ME is hardly overrated. ME get's the praise and criticism it deserves. It's ME2 that is overrated.

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Mr.House wrote...

We don't prepare for every possible scenario, that's the thing. What if the base is guarded by a fleet. Guess what? You're screwed. What happens if it's revealed the collectors can live in a black hole and that's where you have to go? You're screwed. What we prepare for is simply believing we are attacking a base that will need tech and biotics even know we have nothing to support it.

Mordin was the only character we recruited that made sense because we needed a scientist to combat the seeker swarms(which was a known threat)


So collector foot soldiers aren't a known threat? Can Mordin and Shepy take on a small army of collectors?

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Seboist wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

What does any of this have to do with ME's most depressing momements?

The massive drop in quality is pretty depressing.

Eh, I personally think ME1 is severely overrated.


False.

2 is the most overrated one(3 is the most underrated one).

Now son, I didn't say nothing about ME2 or 3, so what's that got to do with anything?

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Mass Effect in general is over-rated, but ME1 is most overrated of all.

Modifié par Darth Brotarian, 15 octobre 2013 - 10:48 .


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tevix wrote...

What bugs me is that the derelect reaper's core looks just like that...a gigantic power/reactor core. There is no hint of a core entity shaped like the species it came from. So what's up with the human reaper?


Just reason around it by thinking of it as a far older reaper design. It is, after all, over 30+ million years old.

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Darth Brotarian wrote...

Mass Effect in general is over-rated



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Cthulhu42 wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

What does any of this have to do with ME's most depressing momements?

The massive drop in quality is pretty depressing.

Eh, I personally think ME1 is severely overrated.


False.

2 is the most overrated one(3 is the most underrated one).

Now son, I didn't say nothing about ME2 or 3, so what's that got to do with anything?


It needed saying.

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Mass Effect in general is over-rated, but ME1 is most overrated of all.


First half is true, second half is false.

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I can see why Shepard would want to recruit a gang of tech experts, veterans and biotics. She's a ground combatant, other ground combatants would help.

I don't see, though, why that's the main objective of half of ME2, and basically the crux of the plan to take down the Collectors. Seems everyone was banking on the Collector Base being extremely lightly defended and ripe for a small squad of elite soldiers to infiltrate, for apparently no reason.

Maybe a case of having a cool premise and cool finale, but having no idea how to logically bridge the two.

Modifié par The Night Mammoth, 15 octobre 2013 - 10:52 .


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The whole franchise is very overrated. ME2 is the most severe case.

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Darth Brotarian wrote...

Mass Effect in general is over-rated, but ME1 is most overrated of all.

You had me nodding at first until teh end. ME is not more overrated then ME2. Not by a long shot.

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Mr.House wrote...

ME is hardly overrated. ME get's the praise and criticism it deserves. It's ME2 that is overrated.


Yeah it is, especially when you really put a critical eye to the storytelling and realize it's guilty of many things that the sequels are also guilty of.

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You all are just a bunch of overrated posters.

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The franchise is overrated because all of the main plotlines are basically examples of all the things you DON'T do when writing a story.

ME2 exemplifies this because any storyline involving reapers is like..5% of the game. And what's there contradicts 1, and is contradicted in 3.

The characters and race stories are great, but the main plotline is garbage.

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I disagree that ME1 is overrated, but I think that ME3 often gets more hate than it deserves.

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KaiserShep wrote...

but I think that ME3 often gets more hate than it deserves.


True, it has the best gameplay in the trilogy and unlike ME2 has a focused plot that advances the overarching one.

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ME3 is great as a self-contained story, terrible as a sequel. Unfortunately, it was written to be the former.

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tevix wrote...

ME3 is great as a self-contained story, terrible as a sequel. Unfortunately, it was written to be the former.


Sounds like you're talking about ME2 to me.