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Killing off the quarians to save the geth. Even if you believe it's the right choice, the game does not look kindly on you for it. First you get Legion dying as per usual, but then you get to see all the other quarians getting mowed down because that idiot Gerrel didn't know what the word 'retreat' means. Then they cap it all off by sending Tali over the cliff, complete with a red herring Paragon interrupt just to yank the chain further. Then you get to go back to the ship with everyone except EDI upset at you for what you did. Forced geth sympathy, my ass.


i agree.

Ashley and Garrus have some pretty depressing comments. 

What do they say?


Ashley is in tears, and talks about how Tali was like a little sister to her

Garrus talks about her being a good friend, and how he always assumed there was angel behind the mask

Here's a video

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Most of these in this thread made me angry not depressed. Really I can only think of 2 that depressed me. My very first SM when i didn't know what I was doing got Thane killed. Was so depressing looking at the coffin once back on the ship. The other I guess had to happen but the clone's death was depressing for me.

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Tali's loyalty mission: encountering the body of Rael'Zorah, as well as Jonah's mother's final recording


Something just occured to me. Dorn, the quarian Shepard finds when trying to save Zaal'Korris. Doesn't he also say that his son's name is Jonah? If so, that would be one hell of a depressing way to lose your parents. 

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RZIBARA wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

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Killing off the quarians to save the geth. Even if you believe it's the right choice, the game does not look kindly on you for it. First you get Legion dying as per usual, but then you get to see all the other quarians getting mowed down because that idiot Gerrel didn't know what the word 'retreat' means. Then they cap it all off by sending Tali over the cliff, complete with a red herring Paragon interrupt just to yank the chain further. Then you get to go back to the ship with everyone except EDI upset at you for what you did. Forced geth sympathy, my ass.


i agree.

Ashley and Garrus have some pretty depressing comments. 

What do they say?


Ashley is in tears, and talks about how Tali was like a little sister to her

Garrus talks about her being a good friend, and how he always assumed there was angel behind the mask

Here's a video

It's sad, but at least they acknowledge that it's sad in this ending.

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killerrabbit1996 wrote...

iakus wrote...


Tali's loyalty mission: encountering the body of Rael'Zorah, as well as Jonah's mother's final recording


Something just occured to me. Dorn, the quarian Shepard finds when trying to save Zaal'Korris. Doesn't he also say that his son's name is Jonah? If so, that would be one hell of a depressing way to lose your parents. 

yep thats the dad

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Damn, poor kid. The story is full of depressing moments though, some have a more powerful impact than others. Thessia is one big joke. I can't see why Liara was such a crybaby about that, she knew there was a war going on with the odds that the Reapers killed all organic life. Why the hell would she be so shocked that Thessia was under attack as well? She should be more like Garrus in that respect, he's a bit of a whiner as well, but accepts the fact that the only way to save is homeworld is kicking Reapper ass!

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Damn, poor kid. The story is full of depressing moments though, some have a more powerful impact than others. Thessia is one big joke. I can't see why Liara was such a crybaby about that, she knew there was a war going on with the odds that the Reapers killed all organic life. Why the hell would she be so shocked that Thessia was under attack as well? She should be more like Garrus in that respect, he's a bit of a whiner as well, but accepts the fact that the only way to save is homeworld is kicking Reapper ass!


The only one who didn't whine was Javik.

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Well, even he did. I mean, if I can get the Geth and Quarians to work together, could you shut the hell up about the machines being untrustworthy already?

Also, looking into the memory shard can make him one depressed son of a ****.

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killerrabbit1996 wrote...

Well, even he did. I mean, if I can get the Geth and Quarians to work together, could you shut the hell up about the machines being untrustworthy already?

Also, looking into the memory shard can make him one depressed son of a ****.


I forgot about the Geth part,but about the shard,to be fair he has probably seen some **** in his days,more so than any other crew member.

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True, but enough **** to want to kill yourself after saving the galaxy? That was quite extreme.

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True, but enough **** to want to kill yourself after saving the galaxy? That was quite extreme.


He is the last of his species,and thinks he has no purpose to live because the only purpose he ever had was defeating the Reapers.

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He may be the last of his species, but certainly even a blunt type such as Javik should've noticed by then that he is not alone? What makes the choice even stranger is that if you don't let him look into the shard he suddenly doesn't become suicidal at all and apparantly has no sense of being the last of his species at all, as he is even concidering co-writing the book Liara's always blubbering about.

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He may be the last of his species, but certainly even a blunt type such as Javik should've noticed by then that he is not alone? What makes the choice even stranger is that if you don't let him look into the shard he suddenly doesn't become suicidal at all and apparantly has no sense of being the last of his species at all, as he is even concidering co-writing the book Liara's always blubbering about.


I had a playthrough where I didn't talk to him enough and had that conversation.I think it should be the other way around,by fully interacting with him,and giving him purpose in the current cycle,making him want to continue living.

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That would be the logical course, also it would make more sense to look back at what happened and accept it as the past. Instead of continuously denying it ever happened.

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The most depressing for me is Tali's suicide, followed closely by shooting Mordin, with Legion's death (no peace) being a distant third. Despite all the crap I give ME3, it did pull the heartstrings phenomenally on Rannoch and Tuchanka.

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For me, the depression is more Meta that inverse.

Its such a good series and its just disheartened that Mass Effect 3 had to end on such a sour note. Minor plot threads were left hanging or with less than satisfying conclusions, and the whole ending debacle is insane. One of the biggest outcries in history if not THE biggest. Now - on its own, ME3 is a wonderfully fun game, but its somewhat lacking. Playing it as a stand alone, you meet all these characters and you're compelled to wonder why you're supposed to care about them?

Frankly, I hate endings. And I hate goodbyes. That's the sadest part of ME3 for me. Its one long-winded goodbye.

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Wow -- three serious replies before the mandatory ending defender whine.


Grow up please

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Mordin dying at the Shroud, whether it be Shepard murdering him or sacrifcing himself.

Legion sacrifcing himself or being killed on Rannoch.

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RZIBARA wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

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Kataphrut94 wrote...

Killing off the quarians to save the geth. Even if you believe it's the right choice, the game does not look kindly on you for it. First you get Legion dying as per usual, but then you get to see all the other quarians getting mowed down because that idiot Gerrel didn't know what the word 'retreat' means. Then they cap it all off by sending Tali over the cliff, complete with a red herring Paragon interrupt just to yank the chain further. Then you get to go back to the ship with everyone except EDI upset at you for what you did. Forced geth sympathy, my ass.


i agree.

Ashley and Garrus have some pretty depressing comments. 

What do they say?


Ashley is in tears, and talks about how Tali was like a little sister to her

Garrus talks about her being a good friend, and how he always assumed there was angel behind the mask

Here's a video

Thanks for the video. I hadn't seen all the responses in my Quarian destroyed playthrough.

I'll add that I was pretty depressed in my Geth death playthrough when I realized only me, EDI, and Tali mourned the destruction of the Geth. Everyone else was glad they were gone... understandable.

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--> Virmire Sacrifice.
--> Tali's father's death.
--> Thane facing Kolyat in Joram Talid's apartment.
--> Legion's death.
--> Thane final prayer.
--> Teen on Citadel waiting for parents.
--> Jack/Shepard tattoo scene.
--> Shepard's death/memorial.

Mordin's death doesn't depress because he was getting old as it was and dies redeeming himself.

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Having Jack as my LI and realizing she had been marginalized in my ME3 playthrough.

but the one death I could not stomach was Tali's suicide jump...couldn't go through with that scenario and loaded a previous save.

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Obadiah wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

Kataphrut94 wrote...

Killing off the quarians to save the geth. Even if you believe it's the right choice, the game does not look kindly on you for it. First you get Legion dying as per usual, but then you get to see all the other quarians getting mowed down because that idiot Gerrel didn't know what the word 'retreat' means. Then they cap it all off by sending Tali over the cliff, complete with a red herring Paragon interrupt just to yank the chain further. Then you get to go back to the ship with everyone except EDI upset at you for what you did. Forced geth sympathy, my ass.


i agree.

Ashley and Garrus have some pretty depressing comments. 

What do they say?


Ashley is in tears, and talks about how Tali was like a little sister to her

Garrus talks about her being a good friend, and how he always assumed there was angel behind the mask

Here's a video

Thanks for the video. I hadn't seen all the responses in my Quarian destroyed playthrough.

I'll add that I was pretty depressed in my Geth death playthrough when I realized only me, EDI, and Tali mourned the destruction of the Geth. Everyone else was glad they were gone... understandable.


Everyone except for Garrus is understandable. It makes sense that Ashley/Kaidan, James & Javik are glad to see the geth gone, but Garrus knew Legion. He shouldn't be so glad to see the geth gone because he knew there was more to them than killer robots.

Either way, Rannoch without peace is depressing. The dead quarian version is hard-hittingly melancholy, but the dead geth are depressing in a 'liberty dies with thunderous applause' kind of way.

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In response to the OP:

I would say that a lot of the main emotional moments--Mordin's death, Thane's death, etc--were moving and sad, but I found the moments that were really shocking and depressing for me were smaller and subtler. The ones where you stumble upon the remains of a situation (abandoned ship, burned out colony, etc.) and are suddenly struck with "Oh my god, this happened." ME1 has a lot of them, notably the MSV Worthington (Julia/Jacob-still-on-life-support). But ME2 does too, like Jarrahe Station or the Quarian crash site on Gei Hinnom. Or, damn, Jacob's whole loyalty mission.

Modifié par ThinkSharp, 14 octobre 2013 - 03:26 .


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Granted, their abduction makes zero sense, but you make up for it by being able to rescue them all. My main problem having most of them disappear entirely for ME3, I get Scotty and his girlfriend back, but Kelly gets shoehorned off to make room for Samantha, and where the heck is Gardner my janitor and cook?! The Normandy is only filled to half capacity, and it would have been very nice to see (and possibly settle) conflicts between the ex-Cerberus crewmembers, (who are more loyal to Shepard personally), and the new Alliance crewmembers, who very likely be more loyal to the Alliance itself. Anyone agree?

The disappearance of my more loyal crew is depressing.


This as well. 

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RZIBARA wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

Kataphrut94 wrote...

Killing off the quarians to save the geth. Even if you believe it's the right choice, the game does not look kindly on you for it. First you get Legion dying as per usual, but then you get to see all the other quarians getting mowed down because that idiot Gerrel didn't know what the word 'retreat' means. Then they cap it all off by sending Tali over the cliff, complete with a red herring Paragon interrupt just to yank the chain further. Then you get to go back to the ship with everyone except EDI upset at you for what you did. Forced geth sympathy, my ass.


i agree.

Ashley and Garrus have some pretty depressing comments. 

What do they say?


Ashley is in tears, and talks about how Tali was like a little sister to her

Garrus talks about her being a good friend, and how he always assumed there was angel behind the mask

Here's a video


I don't know why the rest of the crew is comforting Shepard, I mean Shepard was the one who made the choice. A whole bunch of "not now, Shepard." would have been better.