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[TheMyron]

Matches T. Malone wrote...

TheMyron wrote...

Granted, their abduction makes zero sense, but you make up for it by being able to rescue them all. My main problem having most of them disappear entirely for ME3, I get Scotty and his girlfriend back, but Kelly gets shoehorned off to make room for Samantha, and where the heck is Gardner my janitor and cook?! The Normandy is only filled to half capacity, and it would have been very nice to see (and possibly settle) conflicts between the ex-Cerberus crewmembers, (who are more loyal to Shepard personally), and the new Alliance crewmembers, who very likely be more loyal to the Alliance itself. Anyone agree?

The disappearance of my more loyal crew is depressing.

This as well. 

It would especially be useful if Shepard you plan on going independent.

[EverLastingDead]

johnnythao89 wrote...

Liara and Garrus getting killed! :'(

Uh, in the extended cut he saves em in mine? 

o Legion sacraficing himself then saying keelah se'lai to Tali before falling.
o Thane getting stabbed by that coward.
o Talking to all the people or most from either the holo or headed toward Anderson.
o Most of the Earth Mission - Hearing the radio chatter as well as watching all of em die.(Got 7120 EMS but still scripted)
o The fact I won't probably ever see this crew again, it bothers the sh*t out of me seeing as I've grown attachment to them, dang it bioware.
o Shepard being I guess dispearsed by the sythesis beam knowing its all over.(If you have the extended cut it makes more sense, fills some gaps at least.)
o Watching Shepard and Anderson sit at the center while they both slowly die, or Anderson anyway.

More but I don't feel like remembering

Still I just hope if they continue to make these games but in prelouge or middle/after reaper things your new crew/character comes across the ones from Sherpard's maybe one or two.

[RZIBARA]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

Kataphrut94 wrote...

Killing off the quarians to save the geth. Even if you believe it's the right choice, the game does not look kindly on you for it. First you get Legion dying as per usual, but then you get to see all the other quarians getting mowed down because that idiot Gerrel didn't know what the word 'retreat' means. Then they cap it all off by sending Tali over the cliff, complete with a red herring Paragon interrupt just to yank the chain further. Then you get to go back to the ship with everyone except EDI upset at you for what you did. Forced geth sympathy, my ass.

i agree.

Ashley and Garrus have some pretty depressing comments. 

What do they say?

Ashley is in tears, and talks about how Tali was like a little sister to her

Garrus talks about her being a good friend, and how he always assumed there was angel behind the mask

Here's a video

I don't know why the rest of the crew is comforting Shepard, I mean Shepard was the one who made the choice. A whole bunch of "not now, Shepard." would have been better.

If im not mistaken, Shepard is romancing Tali in that vid

[TheMyron]

TheMyron wrote...

Matches T. Malone wrote...

TheMyron wrote...

Granted, their abduction makes zero sense, but you make up for it by being able to rescue them all. My main problem having most of them disappear entirely for ME3, I get Scotty and his girlfriend back, but Kelly gets shoehorned off to make room for Samantha, and where the heck is Gardner my janitor and cook?! The Normandy is only filled to half capacity, and it would have been very nice to see (and possibly settle) conflicts between the ex-Cerberus crewmembers, (who are more loyal to Shepard personally), and the new Alliance crewmembers, who very likely be more loyal to the Alliance itself. Anyone agree?

The disappearance of my more loyal crew is depressing.

This as well. 

It would especially be useful if Shepard you plan on going independent.

A Pirate Commander isn't measured by the size of his boots, nor by the amount of his booty, but by the loyalty of his crew.

Hence, the ex-cerberus crew, (If I could only choose one or the other), would be preferrable to have.

[DeinonSlayer]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

I don't know why the rest of the crew is comforting Shepard, I mean Shepard was the one who made the choice. A whole bunch of "not now, Shepard." would have been better.

I don't think a KO punch from Garrus would have been uncalled for. No friendly bottle-shooting contest for you! Seems to me it'd have been far more in-character than meekly accepting what Shepard did.

As for walking in on Kaidan and James playing poker as if they hadn't just bore witness to something like that... not sure what can be said. Best guess is everyone is scared of Shepard after that.

[TheWerdna]

knucks360 wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

Kataphrut94 wrote...

Killing off the quarians to save the geth. Even if you believe it's the right choice, the game does not look kindly on you for it. First you get Legion dying as per usual, but then you get to see all the other quarians getting mowed down because that idiot Gerrel didn't know what the word 'retreat' means. Then they cap it all off by sending Tali over the cliff, complete with a red herring Paragon interrupt just to yank the chain further. Then you get to go back to the ship with everyone except EDI upset at you for what you did. Forced geth sympathy, my ass.

i agree.

Ashley and Garrus have some pretty depressing comments. 

What do they say?

Ashley is in tears, and talks about how Tali was like a little sister to her

Garrus talks about her being a good friend, and how he always assumed there was angel behind the mask

Here's a video

I don't know why the rest of the crew is comforting Shepard, I mean Shepard was the one who made the choice. A whole bunch of "not now, Shepard." would have been better.

If im not mistaken, Shepard is romancing Tali in that vid

Heh,worst boyfriend ever.

Goddammit, that video got me all super upset, and its not even any of my playthroughs (which will NEVER side with the geth over the quarians.)

[Kataphrut94]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

I don't know why the rest of the crew is comforting Shepard, I mean Shepard was the one who made the choice. A whole bunch of "not now, Shepard." would have been better.

I don't think a KO punch from Garrus would have been uncalled for. No friendly bottle-shooting contest for you! Seems to me it'd have been far more in-character than meekly accepting what Shepard did.

As for walking in on Kaidan and James playing poker as if they hadn't just bore witness to something like that... not sure what can be said. Best guess is everyone is scared of Shepard after that.

Yeah, the poker thing is weird if you wipe out the quarians. When I did it, the two of them kept flip-flopping between "Yeah boy, you totes took down a Reaper!" and "Tali and the quarians...oh my god, it's all so sad."

So yeah, if you plan to save the geth over the quarians...save Ashley instead of Kaidan folks.

[Xilizhra]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

I don't know why the rest of the crew is comforting Shepard, I mean Shepard was the one who made the choice. A whole bunch of "not now, Shepard." would have been better.

I don't think a KO punch from Garrus would have been uncalled for. No friendly bottle-shooting contest for you! Seems to me it'd have been far more in-character than meekly accepting what Shepard did.

As for walking in on Kaidan and James playing poker as if they hadn't just bore witness to something like that... not sure what can be said. Best guess is everyone is scared of Shepard after that.

It's not like he's about to second-guess Shepard now, not after all this.

[KwangtungTiger]

Xilizhra wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

I don't know why the rest of the crew is comforting Shepard, I mean Shepard was the one who made the choice. A whole bunch of "not now, Shepard." would have been better.

I don't think a KO punch from Garrus would have been uncalled for. No friendly bottle-shooting contest for you! Seems to me it'd have been far more in-character than meekly accepting what Shepard did.

As for walking in on Kaidan and James playing poker as if they hadn't just bore witness to something like that... not sure what can be said. Best guess is everyone is scared of Shepard after that.

It's not like he's about to second-guess Shepard now, not after all this.

Garrus (like Liara) is one of those characters who seems to give Shepard a free pass on everything he does no matter the corse of action.

Hell, If there was an option to sacrifice the Turian home world to save earth Garrus would probably let it slide.

[Dextro Milk]

Synthesis.

On a serious note, choosing to save the geth on Rannoch.

It's not only depressing, it is stupid.

[DeinonSlayer]

Xilizhra wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

I don't know why the rest of the crew is comforting Shepard, I mean Shepard was the one who made the choice. A whole bunch of "not now, Shepard." would have been better.

I don't think a KO punch from Garrus would have been uncalled for. No friendly bottle-shooting contest for you! Seems to me it'd have been far more in-character than meekly accepting what Shepard did.

As for walking in on Kaidan and James playing poker as if they hadn't just bore witness to something like that... not sure what can be said. Best guess is everyone is scared of Shepard after that.

It's not like he's about to second-guess Shepard now, not after all this.

Funny. I'd think less of him for being such a dishrag. Better that he give Shepard a black eye over something on this scale than be one meek voice among a gaggle of sycophants. I love that Mordin stands up for his position instead of caving to The Shepard's will.

I miss the kinds of confrontations we had in ME2...

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 15 octobre 2013 - 02:55 .

[CynicalShep]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

I don't know why the rest of the crew is comforting Shepard, I mean Shepard was the one who made the choice. A whole bunch of "not now, Shepard." would have been better.

I don't think a KO punch from Garrus would have been uncalled for. No friendly bottle-shooting contest for you! Seems to me it'd have been far more in-character than meekly accepting what Shepard did.

As for walking in on Kaidan and James playing poker as if they hadn't just bore witness to something like that... not sure what can be said. Best guess is everyone is scared of Shepard after that.

It's not like he's about to second-guess Shepard now, not after all this.

Funny. I'd think less of him for being such a dishrag. Better that he give Shepard a black eye over something on this scale than be one meek voice among a gaggle of sycophants.

I miss the kinds of confrontations we had in ME2...

This. I don't think you know how real friendship between males works, Xil. If this was a real life situation and Garrus was anything like my best friend he would have probably kicked some sense back into me.

[Xilizhra]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

I don't know why the rest of the crew is comforting Shepard, I mean Shepard was the one who made the choice. A whole bunch of "not now, Shepard." would have been better.

I don't think a KO punch from Garrus would have been uncalled for. No friendly bottle-shooting contest for you! Seems to me it'd have been far more in-character than meekly accepting what Shepard did.

As for walking in on Kaidan and James playing poker as if they hadn't just bore witness to something like that... not sure what can be said. Best guess is everyone is scared of Shepard after that.

It's not like he's about to second-guess Shepard now, not after all this.

Funny. I'd think less of him for being such a dishrag. Better that he give Shepard a black eye over something on this scale than be one meek voice among a gaggle of sycophants.

I miss the kinds of confrontations we had in ME2...

Of course, if you want, it's possible that he can see the balance in the situation more than some others might.

[Steelcan]

Xilizhra wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

I don't know why the rest of the crew is comforting Shepard, I mean Shepard was the one who made the choice. A whole bunch of "not now, Shepard." would have been better.

I don't think a KO punch from Garrus would have been uncalled for. No friendly bottle-shooting contest for you! Seems to me it'd have been far more in-character than meekly accepting what Shepard did.

As for walking in on Kaidan and James playing poker as if they hadn't just bore witness to something like that... not sure what can be said. Best guess is everyone is scared of Shepard after that.

It's not like he's about to second-guess Shepard now, not after all this.

Funny. I'd think less of him for being such a dishrag. Better that he give Shepard a black eye over something on this scale than be one meek voice among a gaggle of sycophants.

I miss the kinds of confrontations we had in ME2...

Of course, if you want, it's possible that he can see the balance in the situation more than some others might.

Legitimate question.

Do you have any experience with real people?

[Xilizhra]

Legitimate question.

Do you have any experience with real people?

I have suspicions about the legitimacy of this question, but yes.

[DeinonSlayer]

Xilizhra wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

I don't know why the rest of the crew is comforting Shepard, I mean Shepard was the one who made the choice. A whole bunch of "not now, Shepard." would have been better.

I don't think a KO punch from Garrus would have been uncalled for. No friendly bottle-shooting contest for you! Seems to me it'd have been far more in-character than meekly accepting what Shepard did.

As for walking in on Kaidan and James playing poker as if they hadn't just bore witness to something like that... not sure what can be said. Best guess is everyone is scared of Shepard after that.

It's not like he's about to second-guess Shepard now, not after all this.

Funny. I'd think less of him for being such a dishrag. Better that he give Shepard a black eye over something on this scale than be one meek voice among a gaggle of sycophants.

I miss the kinds of confrontations we had in ME2...

Of course, if you want, it's possible that he can see the balance in the situation more than some others might.

Garrus is outspokenly happy if you side with the Quarians. His reaction in the opposite scenario is decidedly out-of-character, which, fortunately for him, makes me dismiss it as more bad writing akin to what we see after Thessia. Kaidan and James' blase post-genocide poker game stands as further proof of this - an entire species goes extinct at the whim of their commanding officer, and nobody on board is uneasy over this?

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 15 octobre 2013 - 03:02 .

[Steelcan]

Xilizhra wrote...

Legitimate question.

Do you have any experience with real people?

I have suspicions about the legitimacy of this question, but yes.

Then how do you think someone who just watched a genocide of an entire species, and the death of a friend is going to react?

[Xilizhra]

Garrus is outspokenly happy if you side with the Quarians. His reaction in the opposite scenario is decidedly out-of-character, which, fortunately for him, makes me dismiss it as more bad writing akin to what we see after Thessia. Kaidan and James' blase post-genocide poker game stands as further proof of this.

As you can see by killing all the geth, it's quite easy to be blase after genocide.

Also, Garrus is happy that the quarians win if they win, but accepts the alternative outcome because it's still an overall victory for the galaxy as a whole and had some justification to it.

Then how do you think someone who just watched a genocide of an entire species, and the death of a friend is going to react?

Judging by the reactions if you kill the geth, the death of a friend is all that matters. As such, they'll be sad, but move on because, well, what else can you do in this situation?

Modifié par Xilizhra, 15 octobre 2013 - 03:03 .

[Steelcan]

Xilizhra wrote...

Garrus is outspokenly happy if you side with the Quarians. His reaction in the opposite scenario is decidedly out-of-character, which, fortunately for him, makes me dismiss it as more bad writing akin to what we see after Thessia. Kaidan and James' blase post-genocide poker game stands as further proof of this.

As you can see by killing all the geth, it's quite easy to be blase after genocide.

There is a difference here.  There isn't the same feeling for both races.  Garrus distrusts the geth and is and is pretty sympathetic to the quarians.

[Xilizhra]

Steelcan wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Garrus is outspokenly happy if you side with the Quarians. His reaction in the opposite scenario is decidedly out-of-character, which, fortunately for him, makes me dismiss it as more bad writing akin to what we see after Thessia. Kaidan and James' blase post-genocide poker game stands as further proof of this.

As you can see by killing all the geth, it's quite easy to be blase after genocide.

There is a difference here.  There isn't the same feeling for both races.  Garrus distrusts the geth and is and is pretty sympathetic to the quarians.

Something he can evidently get past.

[Steelcan]

Xilizhra wrote...

Then how do you think someone who just watched a genocide of an entire species, and the death of a friend is going to react?

Judging by the reactions if you kill the geth, the death of a friend is all that matters. As such, they'll be sad, but move on because, well, what else can you do in this situation?

You can't compare the two situations

[Xilizhra]

Steelcan wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Then how do you think someone who just watched a genocide of an entire species, and the death of a friend is going to react?

Judging by the reactions if you kill the geth, the death of a friend is all that matters. As such, they'll be sad, but move on because, well, what else can you do in this situation?

You can't compare the two situations

From what the game shows, you can. ME's squadmates are, thankfully, not like you.

[Steelcan]

Xilizhra wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Garrus is outspokenly happy if you side with the Quarians. His reaction in the opposite scenario is decidedly out-of-character, which, fortunately for him, makes me dismiss it as more bad writing akin to what we see after Thessia. Kaidan and James' blase post-genocide poker game stands as further proof of this.

As you can see by killing all the geth, it's quite easy to be blase after genocide.

There is a difference here.  There isn't the same feeling for both races.  Garrus distrusts the geth and is and is pretty sympathetic to the quarians.

Something he can evidently get past.

And him "getting past" it is OOC and pretty stuid IMO.

Believe it or not, not everyone is cool with genocidal machines watching their backs.