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I sort of gave up on the new animated series the second they did the revival of Darth Maul; I mean you have two half decent now considered non canon rebirths and yet they pick that one to make as canon?

Bleh its partly why i have been growing more and more distanced by the EU these past few years.

Not to mention the portrayal of Mandalore and the Mandolorians in the show it self which caused the half decent Clone Commando Novel series to be canned due to the shows retconnning.


The return of Darth Maul is one of the best things that ever happened in the series. We saw Darth Maul as a more human figure, he proved a competent villain, and we got to see more of him in action. Maul should've never been "killed" in The Phantom Menace. It was premature. However, his survival opens up lots of possibilities, even now. Have you seen the Season 4 finale? Or the Season 5 Mandalore arc? Those were some of the best arcs of the entire series.

As for the portrayal of the Mandalorians, it was only the Mandalorians living on the planet during the Clone Wars. It says nothing about all the other Mandalorian mercs living across the galaxy. Besides:

*SPOILERS*


They don't last long.


*SPOILERS*



If nothing else, at least see the Maul/Mandalore arc of Season 5.




That's Your perspective not my own.

Besides there was already enough Lore out there to flesh out the character, them giving him prosatic limbs and climbing he survived through hatred is all fine and good; its just there was already a superior rebirth and death of maul out there.

My own personal favorite Rebirth of Maul occurs in a non canon comic book in which he duels and ultimately perishes at the hands of Darth Vader in a assignment assigned to the Sith Lord by Palpatine.

And as for the Mandolorians...You have a culture the predates the founding of the Republic, its a warior society, a culture entirely revolving around conquest, familiy and society.

For that to be split from them is for them to cease to be what they were called.

And to make "Death Watch" The only true Mandolorians was just insulting.

The extremist faction of the Mandolorians shouldn't have to wage war on their own people for them merely to embrace what they have been for 30,000 years.




They can if their people have turned away from the Mando'ade. Societies on our own world are very fluid and can change trememdously. Society in general has change on our world. A century ago, most European countries and even the U.S. were empires and militaristic. China didn't have a communist government. Russia was still being ruled by an autocratic regime with most of its people living as serfs. So on and so far. Jump to the present and the world has changed exponentially. 

And who said the Death Watch were the only "true Mandalorians"? There are still Mandalorian mercs out there in the galaxy. Death Watch is just an ultraconservative faction that wants make the Mandalorian people (as in, the people living on the planet Mandalore) to revert back to the previous way of life.

Cultures change. Death Watch is some ultraconservative faction that wants to revert the Mandalorian culture to how it once was.

As for the Maul story you're talking about, that's actually canon. But the Vader isn't fighting the original Maul, but a doppelganger.

I disagree completely about "other superior rebirths". In fact, while I understand what you mean, this isn't a rebirth. This is a case of Maul surviving the duel on Naboo. This is a continuation of his story, which was cut short in The Phantom Menace, which it shouldn't have been. While yes, there are novels and comics that flesh Maul out back before the duel on Naboo. However, Maul's story in TCW develops his character even more and actually shows him in action again. Instead of reading about him, you're actually watching him. To me, the fact that Maul got more screentime with the TCW episodes is a crucial difference, you see. Like I said, Maul's story was cut too short and should've gone past The Phantom Menace. At last, with his return in TCW, we got the chance to see Maul on-screen once again and past his duel on Naboo.


The Mandolorians have fought more Wars then any other Society in SW, They have encountered more species, Ways of thinking and cultures then i likely could recall even with my extensive knowledge of both Lore and EU. Their Society didn't change for any of it, They met the Sith as Equals and a common respect and Understanding was fostered that endured for far longer then most governments.

Their society wasn't built around not changing, you have a point its adaptive and fluid but at its core it remained true to the Mandolorians. Their techology, Language, and even make up of spcies changed and grew dramatically across the timeline but the fact of the matter is?

They never changed who they were.

To even SUGGEST that a people that had endured so much, adapted and grew so much would EVER change when some whiny Preteen Princess Mary Sue came strolling by is pure insanity.

So i would have to disagree with you, Their blantant attempt to rewrite the Mandolorians spat on a Half Decade of Lore in the EU and everything about them, They are an ultra Militarized society of Warriors and that is what they should remain for enterinity until their eventual destruction.

And Rebirth is a Rebirth and in my eye Maul was a second rate character who was only meant to be a foil and express out traits in superior ones. He wasn't overly interesting and even after learning more about him and finding out what made him tick i still didn't overly care and the fact they warped his backstory to suit the show more so over the EU didn't help his case at all.

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I kinda agree on the Mandalorians to be reduce from Conquerors to space hippies disgraceful!
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Master Warder Z wrote...

Cap. Obvious wrote...

Master Warder Z wrote...

Cap. Obvious wrote...

Master Warder Z wrote...

I sort of gave up on the new animated series the second they did the revival of Darth Maul; I mean you have two half decent now considered non canon rebirths and yet they pick that one to make as canon?

Bleh its partly why i have been growing more and more distanced by the EU these past few years.

Not to mention the portrayal of Mandalore and the Mandolorians in the show it self which caused the half decent Clone Commando Novel series to be canned due to the shows retconnning.


The return of Darth Maul is one of the best things that ever happened in the series. We saw Darth Maul as a more human figure, he proved a competent villain, and we got to see more of him in action. Maul should've never been "killed" in The Phantom Menace. It was premature. However, his survival opens up lots of possibilities, even now. Have you seen the Season 4 finale? Or the Season 5 Mandalore arc? Those were some of the best arcs of the entire series.

As for the portrayal of the Mandalorians, it was only the Mandalorians living on the planet during the Clone Wars. It says nothing about all the other Mandalorian mercs living across the galaxy. Besides:

*SPOILERS*


They don't last long.


*SPOILERS*



If nothing else, at least see the Maul/Mandalore arc of Season 5.




That's Your perspective not my own.

Besides there was already enough Lore out there to flesh out the character, them giving him prosatic limbs and climbing he survived through hatred is all fine and good; its just there was already a superior rebirth and death of maul out there.

My own personal favorite Rebirth of Maul occurs in a non canon comic book in which he duels and ultimately perishes at the hands of Darth Vader in a assignment assigned to the Sith Lord by Palpatine.

And as for the Mandolorians...You have a culture the predates the founding of the Republic, its a warior society, a culture entirely revolving around conquest, familiy and society.

For that to be split from them is for them to cease to be what they were called.

And to make "Death Watch" The only true Mandolorians was just insulting.

The extremist faction of the Mandolorians shouldn't have to wage war on their own people for them merely to embrace what they have been for 30,000 years.




They can if their people have turned away from the Mando'ade. Societies on our own world are very fluid and can change trememdously. Society in general has change on our world. A century ago, most European countries and even the U.S. were empires and militaristic. China didn't have a communist government. Russia was still being ruled by an autocratic regime with most of its people living as serfs. So on and so far. Jump to the present and the world has changed exponentially. 

And who said the Death Watch were the only "true Mandalorians"? There are still Mandalorian mercs out there in the galaxy. Death Watch is just an ultraconservative faction that wants make the Mandalorian people (as in, the people living on the planet Mandalore) to revert back to the previous way of life.

Cultures change. Death Watch is some ultraconservative faction that wants to revert the Mandalorian culture to how it once was.

As for the Maul story you're talking about, that's actually canon. But the Vader isn't fighting the original Maul, but a doppelganger.

I disagree completely about "other superior rebirths". In fact, while I understand what you mean, this isn't a rebirth. This is a case of Maul surviving the duel on Naboo. This is a continuation of his story, which was cut short in The Phantom Menace, which it shouldn't have been. While yes, there are novels and comics that flesh Maul out back before the duel on Naboo. However, Maul's story in TCW develops his character even more and actually shows him in action again. Instead of reading about him, you're actually watching him. To me, the fact that Maul got more screentime with the TCW episodes is a crucial difference, you see. Like I said, Maul's story was cut too short and should've gone past The Phantom Menace. At last, with his return in TCW, we got the chance to see Maul on-screen once again and past his duel on Naboo.


The Mandolorians have fought more Wars then any other Society in SW, They have encountered more species, Ways of thinking and cultures then i likely could recall even with my extensive knowledge of both Lore and EU. Their Society didn't change for any of it, They met the Sith as Equals and a common respect and Understanding was fostered that endured for far longer then most governments.

Their society wasn't built around not changing, you have a point its adaptive and fluid but at its core it remained true to the Mandolorians. Their techology, Language, and even make up of spcies changed and grew dramatically across the timeline but the fact of the matter is?

They never changed who they were.

To even SUGGEST that a people that had endured so much, adapted and grew so much would EVER change when some whiny Preteen Princess Mary Sue came strolling by is pure insanity.

So i would have to disagree with you, Their blantant attempt to rewrite the Mandolorians spat on a Half Decade of Lore in the EU and everything about them, They are an ultra Militarized society of Warriors and that is what they should remain for enterinity until their eventual destruction.

And Rebirth is a Rebirth and in my eye Maul was a second rate character who was only meant to be a foil and express out traits in superior ones. He wasn't overly interesting and even after learning more about him and finding out what made him tick i still didn't overly care and the fact they warped his backstory to suit the show more so over the EU didn't help his case at all.




Humanity didn't develop democracies until relatively recently.  Throughout human history, be it recorded or unrecorded, people were ruled by mostly autrocratic governments. To say that the Mandalorians couldn't eventually completely change is itself pure insanity.

And if the Mandalorians were truly so stagnant in the EU, then I'm glad that the series decided to take the bold step of having what is just one group of Mandalorians (not every Mandalorian) on the planet Mandalore change their ways.

In addition, Satine was never a Mary Sue. She was shown to be quite fallible in the CGI series and wasn't smart enough to keep Maul and the Death Watch from overthrowing her pacifist government. The Mandalorians that started the pacifistic society didn't just give up their ways once she just strode in, but gave them up after a civil war which made them not want to become warriors anymore, which is a realistic scenario.

Finally, I could care less if only a small portion of Mandalorian lore that deals with the Clone Wars (much of what was written by Karen Traviss) was trampled over. The EU for the prequel-era Mandalorians was a mess. Simple as that.

Last but not least, I know what you mean when you mention them "warping" Maul's backstory and I don't buy it. Maul being born on Dathomir doesn't mean much except that he was born on a different planet than Iridonia. That's it. There's nothing in the show that says that Iridonia isn't still the Zabrak homeworld. You may not have liked Maul in Star Wars: The Clone Wars. I can say that I've met a lot more people that liked him and his character development in the show more than I've met people that hated both of that. Maul was very interesting in Star Wars: The Clone Wars.

And no, it's not a rebirth because Maul wasn't even dead to begin with.

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I kinda agree on the Mandalorians to be reduce from Conquerors to space hippies disgraceful!


And again, it wasn't all of the Mandalorians and the pacifistic government on Mandalore was eventually overthrown.

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Still waiting for the live action one from George Lucas.

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Still waiting for the live action one from George Lucas.


The live-action tv series is stuck in development hell. Chances are, it'll take a very long time before it ever premieres, if ever. I would love it if Disney would have LucasFilm take on the project, but Disney wants them to focus on the movies, and it's not just another trilogy they're focusing on, but spinoff movies as well. I'm just glad that we're getting a series set during the Imperial Era, even if it's not the live-action one.

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Interesting interview with Simon Kinberg.

Couple of things that I liked:

-He's a fan of Star Wars: The Clone Wars.

-The fact that he says that they approached the formation of the Rebel Alliance in a "real-world way."

-His description of the Inquisitor.

-The fact that they're creating a lot of original characters.

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 New Droid Character Revealed.

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More information.

From the article:

We also recieved the following Rebels information from a Jedi News source:

"On board the Ghost we will encounter:

-Kannan Jarrus

-Hera Syndulla - Twi'lek whose family we have met before, and may well meet again.

-Zeb - the gunner, and trusty sidekick.

On board the Phantom we will encounter:

-Ezra Bridger - a renegade Imperial Cadet, who learns of their Force sensitivities through a highly sought Holocron - the very item The Inquisitor is commanded to retrieve by his Emperor. Bridger dresses in some customized Imperial gear.



It should be noted that Hera's last name is the same last name of a character in Star Wars: The Clone Wars, Cham Syndulla.

Quite interesting.

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More information on the main characters, given mainly by Dave Filoni. 

Quotes from Dave Filoni:

"We will see many things that are famous to Star Wars, but have not appeared on screen in a while. Star Destroyers, TIE Fighters, and Stormtroopers - basically the Empire is back and that is a big change, since, for many years, we have only seen the Republic in action. The tone of the series is also different. The Clone Wars got very dark as we headed towards the end of the war and the downfall of the Jedi. Star Wars Rebels brings back the banter and faster pace that the original films were famous for."

"Rebels takes place in the Outer Rim. The audience typically thinks of Tatooine as the place where Luke Skywalker grew up, when the Outer Rim is mentioned. We are on a more civilized planet, and one that profited from the Empire's existence in the beginning. Most of the stories take place on the planet Lothal, which is a grass planet with large monolithic stones on the surface. The look comes from some Ralph McQuarrie concept paintings that were done for the original Star Wars films. We tried to make Lothal look and feel like a planet that would have been in the original film trilogy. It's alien, but you feel like it's someplace that you could visit on Earth geographically. Hoth, Tatooine, and Endor are all like this, so we think it fits in well."

What we can take away from this is that:

1) The story takes place mostly around the planet Lothal (not sure whether that's a good thing or a bad thing).

2) The show won't be as dark as the later seasons of Star Wars: The Clone Wars (maybe not at first, however).


Another intersting thing I found was from the Chopper Introduction video in the webpage. You see what appears to be actual footage from the show, although in black and white. Watch the video from 2:23 - 2:25.

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Disney: "Star Wars Rebels" film to air this summer on Disney Channel

From the article:

Our friends at are reporting that Disney announced a Star Wars Rebels TV film in their annual shareholder letter.

The following is an excerpt from the from Disney:

"While the world eagerly awaits Episode VII to open in theaters, we’re introducing Star Wars Rebels to television audiences this summer with a movie and a series of shorts on Disney Channel, followed by a continuing series on Disney XD."

This news comes a week after a that the series would be introduced with summer vignettes and an hour long special in October.

It looks like that rumor was nearly correct. We are now awaiting a public announcement from Disney concerning the vignettes and film.


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Star Wars To Have a "Forty Year" Useful Life to Disney

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Meet Kanan the cowboy Jedi.

Well, that confirms it: there will be Jedi in Star Wars Rebels.

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A new Rebels character has been revealed: Ezra.

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What we know of this guy:

-He's the apprentice of Kanan.

-He's a Force-user, though he doesn't realize it.

-He steals Imperial stuff.

-He's 14 years-old.

Not a whole lot, but I'm interested nonetheless.

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  Now this article has a plethora of information, particularly about three other characters that are unconfirmed right now.

First and foremost, there's Zeb Orellos and the female Mandalorian in this artwork right here:

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The Mandalorian is aparently a good guy. Check the picture down below. If the figurine has a hexagonal base, then the characters a bad guy. If the figurine has an oval base, then it's a good guy.

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In addition, the Inquisitor apparently has a shield:

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There's another new character as well, named Agent Kallus. You can check right here:

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We also get a look at Ezra's lightsaber, which as the article notes, looks like it was "cobbled together from a blaster".

Here are some vehicles from the show:

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 Well, looks like we got our first Mandalorian in the show.

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And our first Twi'lek.

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Star Wars Rebels draws visual influence from Miyazaka.

 

Ralph McQuarrie...

 

Hayao Miyazaki...

 

Both of their influence will be present in Rebels and I can't wait to see it.

 

 



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Maybe having the atmosphere of the old trilogy is an interesting aspect of this series. The characters don't look very good though IMO.



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Maybe having the atmosphere of the old trilogy is an interesting aspect of this series. The characters don't look very good though IMO.

 

I think they look alright. 

 

By the way, I should've brought this up before, but Steve Blum is playing a character called Zeb Orellos.

 

 

Steve Blum is so awesome.


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lol Posted this previously in the wrong thread.


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Should've put this on before.

 

 

Meet Agent Kallus, voiced by David Oyelowo.

 

There are a couple of things that have been revealed during my hiatus on this site, but David Oyelowo as Agent Kallus would be one of them.



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Aaaannnd here's an Extended Trailer for Star Wars Rebels, with a cameo appearance from Obi-Wan Kenobi (played by James Arnold Taylor).

 



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Now this has got me hyped. 

 

Also: Luminara Unduli lives.



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Have they mention if Darth Vader or the Emperor will appear?



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Master Unduli is my third fav prequel jedi, after Mace and Ki-Adi-Mundi
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Here are IGN's thoughts on the first IGN:

 

http://www.ign.com/a...tar-wars-rebels

 

If there's a balance of tension and humor as the article says, then count me in.

 

 


@RobRam10: I'm not sure. I think they may only be mentioned in the first season but that may change in the later seasons.