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A question about recharge speed.

Débuté par Alien Number Six , oct. 14 2013 11:13

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Alien Number Six
Posté 14 octobre 2013 - 11:13

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Can you exceed 200% recharge speed with a light weapon, consumables, and gear?

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Posté 14 octobre 2013 - 11:16

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Yes, but the bar in the weapons selection screen will not reflect this.

Modifié par FatherOfPearl, 14 octobre 2013 - 11:17 .

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FasterThanFTL
Posté 14 octobre 2013 - 11:18

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Yes. 250%.

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Alien Number Six
Posté 14 octobre 2013 - 11:19

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Thank you. Also do I have permission to add you as a friend FatherOfPearl.

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Posté 14 octobre 2013 - 11:22

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Alien Number Six wrote...

Thank you. Also do I have permission to add you as a friend FatherOfPearl.

Here or PSN? Sometimes I don't get a notification when someone sends me a request on here.

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Alien Number Six
Posté 14 octobre 2013 - 11:23

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PSN

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Posté 14 octobre 2013 - 11:24

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Go ahead, but I won't be around to accept it until later tonight.

Modifié par FatherOfPearl, 14 octobre 2013 - 11:25 .

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Posté 14 octobre 2013 - 11:46

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Learned something new today.

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Posté 14 octobre 2013 - 12:02

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Isn't it like a curve though with the gains lessening as you increase your recharge speed? e.g. there's a bigger difference in cooldown speed between 0 and 100 recharge speed than there is between 100 and 200.

So whilst you can go over 200% it's not really worth it... I may be completely wrong on this mind.

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Posté 14 octobre 2013 - 12:04

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Gains are minimal and not really worth going for with a light weapon.

Modifié par Sketfish, 14 octobre 2013 - 12:04 .

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didacuscarr
Posté 14 octobre 2013 - 12:29

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Recharge speed is overrated.

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OniGanon
Posté 14 octobre 2013 - 12:56

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Above 160% or so, the gains really start getting too small to care about.

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Posté 14 octobre 2013 - 01:00

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N7didacus wrote...

Recharge speed is overrated.


QFT

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Posté 14 octobre 2013 - 01:03

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Chealec wrote...

Isn't it like a curve though with the gains lessening as you increase your recharge speed? e.g. there's a bigger difference in cooldown speed between 0 and 100 recharge speed than there is between 100 and 200.

So whilst you can go over 200% it's not really worth it... I may be completely wrong on this mind.


Entirely depends on the powers base cooldown.

One a power with a low base cooldown even large cooldown percentages offer little effective return. It's why running a heavy weapon Fury build isn't nearly as punishing as some random lobbies believe (or most PUGs really don't like the Raider on a Fury for whatever reason ...).
On the other hand of the spectrum, a power with a high base cooldown, even relatively small percentages can mean noticeably faster cooldowns and more effective gameplay.

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TMB903
Posté 14 octobre 2013 - 01:26

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It's so negligible that it's not even worth it TBH.

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Posté 14 octobre 2013 - 01:27

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Chealec wrote...

Isn't it like a curve though with the gains lessening as you increase your recharge speed? e.g. there's a bigger difference in cooldown speed between 0 and 100 recharge speed than there is between 100 and 200.

So whilst you can go over 200% it's not really worth it... I may be completely wrong on this mind.

Diminishing returns yeah. Awakened Collector is about the only one that benefits from greater than 200% CDs and that still minimal benefits IMO.

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DocDAM
Posté 14 octobre 2013 - 02:09

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Yeah, it gets negligible.
All you long-timers know this, but for any relative newbies, check out the gameplay mechanics thread

Recharge speed = Base / (1+sum of cooldown bonuses)

For example, going from a cooldown weapon weight bonus of 150% to 200% on an 8 sec base power (and adding the rank 2 25% benefit):
8/(1+0.25+1.5) vs. 8/(1+0.25+2)
2.91 vs. 2.46 seconds

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Fortack
Posté 14 octobre 2013 - 02:12

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Accept the Claymore as your Lord and Savior to cleanse yourself from this cooldown madness.

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dragaaan
Posté 14 octobre 2013 - 02:20

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Fortack wrote...

Accept the Claymore as your Lord and Savior to cleanse yourself from this cooldown madness.


this krogan has seen the light.
and now forget all the races that are not drell and you are good to go

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DocDAM
Posté 14 octobre 2013 - 02:32

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FasterThanFTL wrote...

Yes. 250%.

Do you mean on the weapon cooldown, or all total? 
On the latter, I can come up with (on Cryo Blast):
200% weight + 25% rank 2 + 100% rank 6 + 15% structural ergonomics + 50% power eff module =  390%
Or a 1.02 sec cooldown:blink:

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Posté 14 octobre 2013 - 02:36

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dragaaan wrote...

Fortack wrote...

Accept the Claymore as your Lord and Savior to cleanse yourself from this cooldown madness.


this krogan has seen the light.
and now forget all the races that are not drell and you are good to go


Geth.

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NuclearTech76
Posté 14 octobre 2013 - 03:13

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DocDAM wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

Yes. 250%.

Do you mean on the weapon cooldown, or all total? 
On the latter, I can come up with (on Cryo Blast):
200% weight + 25% rank 2 + 100% rank 6 + 15% structural ergonomics + 50% power eff module =  390%
Or a 1.02 sec cooldown:blink:

Even a little faster on Gold and Plat since game speed is faster than the actual listed CDs. I forget the global modifier maybe 5%?

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Wizard of Ox
Posté 14 octobre 2013 - 03:16

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N7didacus wrote...

Recharge speed is overrated.


QFMFT

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AaronEh
Posté 14 octobre 2013 - 03:20

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Chealec wrote...

Isn't it like a curve though with the gains lessening as you increase your recharge speed? e.g. there's a bigger difference in cooldown speed between 0 and 100 recharge speed than there is between 100 and 200.

So whilst you can go over 200% it's not really worth it... I may be completely wrong on this mind.


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Posté 14 octobre 2013 - 04:03

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I didi this too instead of advancing my work :huh:. Well, I never had looked into it... and I should have.
U just gotta grab something around 150 % total between weapon and the rest.
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