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Gamespot: DA Inquisition sex scenes will be "mature and tasteful."


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Myrkale wrote...

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argan1985 wrote...

Cinematic director?

:lol:

The problem with the gaming industry today is that developers seem to think we want a "cinematic" experience.

So, Kinect supported sex scenes?


That would be interactive, not cinematic.

Nah, i think (could be wrong) argan1985 criticized the industry's use of cinematics in games and i sarcastically suggested an interactive experience as an alternative.

Modifié par The Hierophant, 16 octobre 2013 - 12:29 .


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Reznore57 wrote...

jaza wrote...


The romances are something many fans love (and demand) in biowares games.


Which just goes to show how laughable most Bioware fans are.


Well you can laugh at pretty much the whole world then , romances stories have always been very sucessful.


"Go away"

-The questions first reaction reaction to a woman who eventually turns out to be an LI
This is romance.

Bioware wouldn't make an LI like that because they're too damned afraid of what the fans will say when they don't get the ego stroking they've learned to expect.

Modifié par mickey111, 16 octobre 2013 - 01:07 .


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mickey111 wrote...

Reznore57 wrote...

jaza wrote...


The romances are something many fans love (and demand) in biowares games.


Which just goes to show how laughable most Bioware fans are.


Well you can laugh at pretty much the whole world then , romances stories have always been very sucessful.


"Go away"

-The questions first reaction reaction to a woman who eventually turns out to be an LI
This is romance.

Bioware wouldn't make an LI like that because they're too damned afraid of what the fans will say when they don't get the ego stroking they've learned to expect.


While I fully support a relationship like huntress and question to happen, I have to disagree on the ego stroking bit. Have you ever played a Rivalry romance in DA II?

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Fade to black is a cop-out, and the less said about underwear sex and showers, the better.

So, I welcome this development.


Actually, no. No, it's not a cop-out. It's a way to avoid spending copious amounts of money and time and energy on something that doesn't need it.

A sex scene is not very defining. Whether Isabella likes to be on top or not, whether Anders does, whether [insert character here] likes [insert sexual act here] doesn't tell me a thing about their character.

As such, it serves no purpose within the game but to titillate. Now, that's not the same as a romance scene, where dialog is the focus. Dialog tells me about that character. It also allows ME to use dialog, and define my character as well--which a sex scene does not.

A sex scene only titillates. A romance scene can better define characters and the PC.

Romance>Sex. Combine that with the technical difficulties of a sex scene and it really isn't a consideration.

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well angel, as I've recommended to those who don't want romances call or write Bioware.
Call or write EA.
Posting here recommending fade to black is a waste of time.
Maybe someone at EA could get Bioware to change their minds.
If you feel that strongly about it, why don't you do it ?
shrugs.

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If Bioware wants to make things more difficult for themselves by animating a tough-to-animate action on an obscure scene in the game, then just let them do it. They have confidence in their abilities, and they apparently find this stuff to be important. Though I and others may not agree, they are the ones in the position to make the decision to do so.

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Angrywolves wrote...

well angel, as I've recommended to those who don't want romances call or write Bioware.
Call or write EA.
Posting here recommending fade to black is a waste of time.
Maybe someone at EA could get Bioware to change their minds.
If you feel that strongly about it, why don't you do it ?
shrugs.


I don't feel "that strongly" about it. It isn't even an issue. If it weren't for the BSN I wouldn't give it a moment's thought--I certainly didn't before I discovered the BSN, and even mostly while I played the ME series (before DA:O).

But we're here discussing it. I see no reason not to recommend it. Do you?

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Reading the title alone left me in a state of embarrassment.

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Darth Death wrote...

Reading the title alone left me in a state of embarrassment.


It happens to me too from time to time, being embarrassed of things that have nothing to do with me. I'd suggest growing a thicker skin.

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Romance fans: Extremely defensive.

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The Mad Hanar wrote...

Romance fans: Extremely defensive.


Not a romance fan.

People in general: Prone to making assumptions.

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Gwydden wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Romance fans: Extremely defensive.


Not a romance fan.

People in general: Prone to making assumptions.


I just assumed since you call everyone who has a negative view on romances immature, or something of the like.

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Gwydden wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Romance fans: Extremely defensive.


Not a romance fan.

People in general: Prone to making assumptions.

DEBATE OFF!

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The Mad Hanar wrote...

I just assumed since you call everyone who has a negative view on romances immature, or something of the like.


I honestly don't remember ever saying any such thing, and if I seemed so, it was never my intention. I just see no point in complaining to no end about something you don't like.

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While I fully support a relationship like huntress and question to happen, I have to disagree on the ego stroking bit. Have you ever played a Rivalry romance in DA II?


There's also Alistair dumping you because he's about to be king , you can't have children and you don't fit the role (because you're an elf/dwarf/mage)

And I still have very fond memory of Fenris telling my pc "I should never have let you get close to me.." , if you failed his romance and side with mages.

But true , at first they just don't tell you how ugly you are and that you smell bad.
To be honest , I don't expect too much from Bioware romance , because for me the best romances are the most subtle one.
Since no one likes ninjamance , they pretty much have to put warning sign all over the place.
When they tried to be subtle , you have Fenris not even looking at you for like 4 years...it felt really romantic , and not at all like my pc was a delusional stalker!:wizard:

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Gwydden wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

I just assumed since you call everyone who has a negative view on romances immature, or something of the like.


I honestly don't remember ever saying any such thing, and if I seemed so, it was never my intention. I just see no point in complaining to no end about something you don't like.


Well, if it affects something you do like, then you are entitled to at least complain about it from time to time. I mean, it wont change anything, but it is nice to vent.

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I'm disappointed. This Debate Off is dismissed.

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The Mad Hanar wrote...

Well, if it affects something you do like, then you are entitled to at least complain about it from time to time. I mean, it wont change anything, but it is nice to vent.


I've heard this many times. Out of curiousity, what somethings you like that you think romance affects or will affect?

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Gwydden wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Well, if it affects something you do like, then you are entitled to at least complain about it from time to time. I mean, it wont change anything, but it is nice to vent.


I've heard this many times. Out of curiousity, what somethings you like that you think romance have affects or will affect?


Well, character development, for one. Take Jack in Mass Effect 2, for example. She was really boring if you played as FemShep, since much of her friendship development relied upon the romance development. This is an example of romances having a detremental affect on character development.

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Gwydden wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Well, if it affects something you do like, then you are entitled to at least complain about it from time to time. I mean, it wont change anything, but it is nice to vent.


I've heard this many times. Out of curiousity, what somethings you like that you think romance have affects or will affect?

It's only speculation but the team's resources and time are not infinite. Increased focus on romance scenes probably means that another feature will receive less focus. I just hope it's not weather effects...srsly.

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Romance fans defensive.
Been called deviants, perverted , stuff like that.
Implied they wanted sex scenes to maturbate to.
Stuff like that.
Offensive stuff.
Go back and read the original I don't want a dating sim thread.
I suspect there were some insults in the thread Gaider closed, but they may have been deleted by Gaider or Schumacher.
I guess you must have missed that stuff Hanar.
shrugs.

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The Mad Hanar wrote...

Well, character development, for one. Take Jack in Mass Effect 2, for example. She was really boring if you played as FemShep, since much of her friendship development relied upon the romance development. This is an example of romances having a detremental affect on character development.


And somehow it is easier to blame romances and their fans, instead of simply calling the developers out on making such a basic logistical mistake?

Just to be clear, I'm saying all of this in a friendly voice.

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The Mad Hanar wrote...

Well, character development, for one. Take Jack in Mass Effect 2, for example. She was really boring if you played as FemShep, since much of her friendship development relied upon the romance development. This is an example of romances having a detremental affect on character development.


While I don't disagree with your point in general, I disagree with this example in particular. I played a male Paragon Shepard who did not romance Jack, and I felt like there was some pretty significant character development.

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The Hierophant wrote...

Gwydden wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Well, if it affects something you do like, then you are entitled to at least complain about it from time to time. I mean, it wont change anything, but it is nice to vent.


I've heard this many times. Out of curiousity, what somethings you like that you think romance have affects or will affect?

It's only speculation but the team's resources and time are not infinite. Increased focus on romance scenes probably means that another feature will receive less focus. I just hope it's not weather effects...srsly.


I had understood romances have a specific percentage of the game resources devoted to them, and they can't exceed said percentage. I could be wrong, of course.

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The Mad Hanar wrote...

Well, character development, for one. Take Jack in Mass Effect 2, for example. She was really boring if you played as FemShep, since much of her friendship development relied upon the romance development. This is an example of romances having a detremental affect on character development.


While I don't disagree with your point in general, I disagree with this example in particular. I played a male Paragon Shepard who did not romance Jack, and I felt like there was some pretty significant character development.


True, but I felt that she did not have as much character development while playing as a female Shepard. Though, it might of just been my perception. Overall, I just want to make sure there's not *too* much focus on romance to the point where it feels like a character isn't fully developed without a romance. Overall, romances aren't negative things.