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[Gwydden]

Whatever happened to not talking about things you have nothing good to say about?

[Shadow Fox]

Rawgrim wrote...



Actually, personal attacks makes you look stupid. Because you have given up argumenting against the opposition`s arguments in the discussion, and changed the subject over to the other person, instead of sticking to the topic.

Pointing out how posting about something you have no clue about makes you look stupid isn't a personal attack it's showing you how silly you look and helping you to stop embrassing yourself.

[Shadow Fox]

Gwydden wrote...

Whatever happened to not talking about things you have nothing good to say about?

People like arguing.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

In the dark future of BSN, there is only arguing.

[Shadow Fox]

Knight of Dane wrote...

What's VN?

Visual Novel.

[Rawgrim]

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...



Actually, personal attacks makes you look stupid. Because you have given up argumenting against the opposition`s arguments in the discussion, and changed the subject over to the other person, instead of sticking to the topic.

Pointing out how posting about something you have no clue about makes you look stupid isn't a personal attack it's showing you how silly you look and helping you to stop embrassing yourself.

Yes it is. Since you are directing it at me, and not what it is in my posts that you consider to be stupid.

Personal attack : Making of an abusive remark instead of providing evidence when examining another person's claims or comments.

[lady_v23]

sooo.. no more sexy underwear? I certainly hope so. I still look away when the.. err "sex" scenes come up.

[Shadow Fox]

Rawgrim wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

Nope, and I never will. Can`t stand pokemon stuff. 

Thanks for proving your ignorance and bias.

Watching animated kids in mini-skirts isn`t my cup of tea, sorry.

And watching animated lazy perverted fat guys isn't mine.

[The Elder King]

Rawgrim wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

Nope, and I never will. Can`t stand pokemon stuff. 

Thanks for proving your ignorance and bias.

Watching animated kids in mini-skirts isn`t my cup of tea, sorry.

So you're talking about the Pokèmon anime, not the games. But anime=/= VN. They're completely different things.
By the way, even if for the type of story DA2 wouldn't be a western rpg , it would still be a jrpg, not a VN. Unless you think that every jrpg are VN, which is completely false.

Modifié par hhh89, 14 octobre 2013 - 06:59 .

[Rawgrim]

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

Nope, and I never will. Can`t stand pokemon stuff. 

Thanks for proving your ignorance and bias.

Watching animated kids in mini-skirts isn`t my cup of tea, sorry.

And watching animated lazy perverted fat guys isn't mine.

Wich game has those in them?

[Rawgrim]

hhh89 wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

Nope, and I never will. Can`t stand pokemon stuff. 

Thanks for proving your ignorance and bias.

Watching animated kids in mini-skirts isn`t my cup of tea, sorry.

So you're talking about the Pokèmon anime, not the games. But anime=/= VN.
By the way, even if for the type of story DA2 wouldn't be a western rpg , it would still be a jrpg, not a VN. Unless you think that every jrpg are VN, which is completely false.

DA2 is alot more like a VN than an rpg. Because the player has zero say in the outcome of the story. That was what I was getting at.

[Ryzaki]

Knight of Dane wrote...

What's VN?

Visual novel.

Some are linear, but most have multiple endings and some have romances.

@Rawgrin: most visual novels have you take multiple paths through the story. That's how a vast majority of them have their replayability (due to the whole bookish factor).

Modifié par Ryzaki, 14 octobre 2013 - 06:59 .

[Shadow Fox]

Rawgrim wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...



Actually, personal attacks makes you look stupid. Because you have given up argumenting against the opposition`s arguments in the discussion, and changed the subject over to the other person, instead of sticking to the topic.

Pointing out how posting about something you have no clue about makes you look stupid isn't a personal attack it's showing you how silly you look and helping you to stop embrassing yourself.

Yes it is. Since you are directing it at me, and not what it is in my posts that you consider to be stupid.

Personal attack : Making of an abusive remark instead of providing evidence when examining another person's claims or comments.

Fate Stay Night has 3 different story branches and at minimum 6 different endings based on the choices you have Shirou make compared to DA2's railroad plot and 2 slightly different endings.
Have you even played a VN?

[Rawgrim]

Ryzaki wrote...

Knight of Dane wrote...

What's VN?

Visual novel.

Some are linear, but most have multiple endings and some have romances.

@Rawgrin: most visual novels have you take multiple paths through the story. That's how a vast majority of them have their replayability (due to the whole bookish factor).

I will take your word for it. I have only played a couple of them. The ones I played were very railroaded, though. Just like DA2,

[Ryzaki]

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Fate Stay Night has 3 different story branches and at minimum 6 different endings based on the choices you have Shirou make compared to DA2's railroad plot and 2 slightly different endings.
Have you even played a VN?

Course not. 99.99% of the time someone wants to compare a BW game to a dating sim or visual novel they've never actually played the things.

There are free visual novels Raw if you want to play some. Most of the ones I can recommend are otome though...

@Raw: Which ones have you played? Because the railroaded VNs are the exception not the rule.

The only VNs I can think offhand I've played without otome is Winter Shard. Which is free and on Renpy.

Also are you sure you played Visual Novels and not Kinetic Novels? There's a difference.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 14 octobre 2013 - 07:04 .

[azarhal]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Threads like make me wonder if people like Jonathan Perry rub their hands together sinisterly when thinking of interview responses.


Yes, BSN puppets dance... DANCE!!!

lol

I personally think some of the interviews get some section cherry picked gaming journalists because they are contraversial (this interview is from Gamerzines, Gamespot just rolled with a controversial headline). That one from Jonathan was mostly about his work as animator and how things changed with Frostbite3. The romance scenes being more tasteful has already been said numerous time anyway, it's nothing new.

[Rawgrim]

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...



Actually, personal attacks makes you look stupid. Because you have given up argumenting against the opposition`s arguments in the discussion, and changed the subject over to the other person, instead of sticking to the topic.

Pointing out how posting about something you have no clue about makes you look stupid isn't a personal attack it's showing you how silly you look and helping you to stop embrassing yourself.

Yes it is. Since you are directing it at me, and not what it is in my posts that you consider to be stupid.

Personal attack : Making of an abusive remark instead of providing evidence when examining another person's claims or comments.

Fate Stay Night has 3 different story branches and at minimum 6 different endings based on the choices you have Shirou make compared to DA2's railroad plot and 2 slightly different endings.
Have you even played a VN?

Yes. Just not that game. And I won`t play it, for reasons I have stated earlier. Not my fault if you assume I have played no VN games just because I said I haven`t played the one your brought up.

[The Elder King]

Rawgrim wrote...

DA2 is alot more like a VN than an rpg. Because the player has zero say in the outcome of the story. That was what I was getting at.

In JRPGs generally the player has zero say in the outcome of the story. So DA2 would be a jrpg (though I don't think so) because it has elements like combat, customization that VNs don't generally have. 
And as others already said, VN generally allows the player to make choice that lead to different endings, or often entirely different story branches, as Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke shown to you already. 

[Ryzaki]

Which Visual Novels have you played? Mostly so I can see if they're actual VNs and not KNs.

[Knight of Dane]

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Knight of Dane wrote...

What's VN?

Visual Novel.

Thanks!

Now I gotta go buy a functioning brain.
*Leaves in shame*

[Shadow Fox]

Ryzaki wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Fate Stay Night has 3 different story branches and at minimum 6 different endings based on the choices you have Shirou make compared to DA2's railroad plot and 2 slightly different endings.
Have you even played a VN?

Course not. 99.99% of the time someone wants to compare a BW game to a dating sim or visual novel they've never actually played the things.

There are free visual novels Raw if you want to play some. Most of the ones I can recommend are otome though...

Or  for "anime" comparisons never seen an anime outside of what Funimation or 4kids' licensed.

[Mathias]

jaza wrote...

almostinsane99 wrote...

It's called giving people what they want.

No, it's called wasting money on pointless sh!t. Or, in Biowares case, wasting money on pointless sh!t they can't even do well.

There's an audience for this, so no it's not wasting money. And we've seen them do love scenes well in ME1, and in ME3.

Reznore57 wrote...

I'd rather have a fade to black and more romances content , too.

By this I mean more little stuff along the way that reminds you that you're actually in a romance.
I don't know things like after a bad event , Varric writes your pc a long epic love poem to cheer you up .( and bring a lot of beer , poetry is awful)

Sex is just a part of intimacy and another way to show love for each other. Nothing wrong with it.

jaza wrote...

Which just goes to show how laughable most Bioware fans are.

Why? Is it much different than people who enjoy romance in their movies? Romance is a selling point in a lot of stories, there's nothing weird or wrong with it.

AlexJK wrote...

Why don't people who want sex scenes just go away and watch porn? Then they wouldn't have to worry about the romance content at all.

Maybe because people enjoy interacting and improving their relationship with these characters before it all cultimates into a love scene? Porn just skips all the romancing and foreplay, and just brings on the filthy.

Seraph Cross wrote...

BUT HOW WILL THE REST OF THE GAME BE?! YOU KNOW... THE PARTS THAT ACTUALLY MATTER??

They've already explained in intricate detail how they're improving the game and what they're bringing to the table. David Gaider already said the romance is a minor point in the game.



Lot of pointless BS complaining guys. You know the old saying, if you're gonna do something do it right? Well here we have someone explaining how they're do something really well and put a lot of hard work and passion into it, and all you guys do is complain. Christ almighty. No we don't want the developers to try hard and have passion for their work. 

I'm sure they're know what they're doing. Having tasteful sex scenes in a game isn't gonna ruin the experience for you. So Re-friggin-lax.

Modifié par Mdoggy1214, 14 octobre 2013 - 07:09 .

[Han Shot First]

Rawgrim wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

Mass Effect is a good series to emulate.

Generally speaking the ME series has handled romance/sex scenes better than the DA series and comparable games like the Witcher.

From what I've heard of the Witcher even Skyrim handled it better.

I only saw 2 from The Witcher. They were in the second game. One of them was actually very very good. Had some humor in it too.

The Rose of Remembrance scene is good. The other scenes not involving Triss and where Geralt has random one night flings with side characters or prostitutes however, tend to be gratuitous. And the sex cards from the first game were embarrassingly bad.

The Witcher is one of my favorite RPG series, but overall it has tended to stumble a bit when dealing with sex or romance. Ironically despite the sex scenes being more graphic than any Dragon Age or Mass Effect game, they also tend to be more juvenile overall.

[duckley]

Love scenes ... that's nice.

[jaza]

Lot of pointless BS complaining guys. You know the old saying, if you're gonna do something do it right? Well here we have someone explaining how they're do something really well and put a lot of hard work and passion into it, and all you guys do is complain. Christ almighty. No we don't want the developers to try hard and have passion for their work. 

I'm sure they're know what they're doing. Having tasteful sex scenes in a game isn't gonna ruin the experience for you. So Re-friggin-lax.

Bioware has yet to do romance well.