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[crimzontearz]

http://www.gameranx....ludes-new-game/

Pretty pleaaaaaase?

Notice also, Eidos was nice enough to add this feature in the DC version of the game after people asked for soooo long about it (and some people complained that it was not in the spirit of deus EX to deck oneself out with augs and whatnot...I am soooo feeling like rubbing it in their faces now) anyway...


 
Please? It is pretty much the only thing I am waiting for before preordering this and paying in full (or maybe I should get it digitally...)

[Fast Jimmy]

I would like a New Game+ only if it brought something interesting to the table.

Like Crono Trigger, where it allowed different endings by being able to beat the game at different points.

Or ME1, where a skill from any class you previously completed the game with like be applied to a new character. Nothing like a shotgun-toting Adept!


But as just a way to face roll enemies with uber powers and equipment? Meh.

[happy_daiz]

Nah. Not every game needs NG+.

Like Jimmy said, if it brought something completely awesome to the table, fine. Otherwise, I don't think it's necessary.

[crimzontearz]

happy_daiz wrote...

Nah. Not every game needs NG+.

Like Jimmy said, if it brought something completely awesome to the table, fine. Otherwise, I don't think it's necessary.

so...no to an utterly optional feature that please people because YOU do not think it is necessary? Lovely....I honestly do not think it is necessary to be able to play a female inquisitor, do you see me arguing against it?

[crimzontearz]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

I would like a New Game+ only if it brought something interesting to the table.

Like Crono Trigger, where it allowed different endings by being able to beat the game at different points.

Or ME1, where a skill from any class you previously completed the game with like be applied to a new character. Nothing like a shotgun-toting Adept!


But as just a way to face roll enemies with uber powers and equipment? Meh.

 
You DO realize that the added skills have nothing to do with NG+ in ME1 right??

[Wulfram]

My interest in NG+ depends on whether the ruleset works well at high levels - ME1 was utterly broken at high levels so I couldn't see any appeal, but ME2 and ME3 I did a few NG+ playthroughs.  I think NG+ would work better with DA2 than DA:O, similarly.  Though I'd be more interested if given the option to start a fresh character at a higher level than to have to repeat with the same character.

Not having level scaling might make this more difficult to do well - unlike DA2 which would have just required levelling up a few items and they could pretty much do it, in fact with a bit of modding and stuff you could get a pretty solid NG+ going yourself.

Fast Jimmy wrote...

I would like a New Game+ only if it brought something interesting to the table.

Like Crono Trigger, where it allowed different endings by being able to beat the game at different points.
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That would annoy me.  Why should I have to play NG+ to see all the endings?

[Taleroth]

Wulfram wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

I would like a New Game+ only if it brought something interesting to the table.

Like Crono Trigger, where it allowed different endings by being able to beat the game at different points.
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That would annoy me.  Why should I have to play NG+ to see all the endings?

Because beating the bad guy 15 minutes into the game should result in some rather significant differences.

[happy_daiz]

crimzontearz wrote...

happy_daiz wrote...

Nah. Not every game needs NG+.

Like Jimmy said, if it brought something completely awesome to the table, fine. Otherwise, I don't think it's necessary.

so...no to an utterly optional feature that please people because YOU do not think it is necessary? Lovely....I honestly do not think it is necessary to be able to play a female inquisitor, do you see me arguing against it?

So you represent the masses, then? Because YOU want this feature, then EVERYONE wants it?

I'm so happy that you actually read my post. I didn't say "no" to it. I said that if it made sense, great. And that I don't feel every game needs it. I'm just as entitled to an opinion as you are.

If you didn't want anyone to disagree with you, maybe you shouldn't have created a thread.

[ArtemisMoons]

crimzontearz wrote...

happy_daiz wrote...

Nah. Not every game needs NG+.

Like Jimmy said, if it brought something completely awesome to the table, fine. Otherwise, I don't think it's necessary.

so...no to an utterly optional feature that please people because YOU do not think it is necessary? Lovely....I honestly do not think it is necessary to be able to play a female inquisitor, do you see me arguing against it?

Except one might argue that gender choice adds more RPG value (something an RPG might want lol) than NG+. 
Why should they spend more money to implement a system if it doesn't bring anything more to the table-- other than pleasing you, apparently?

[crimzontearz]

happy_daiz wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

happy_daiz wrote...

Nah. Not every game needs NG+.

Like Jimmy said, if it brought something completely awesome to the table, fine. Otherwise, I don't think it's necessary.

so...no to an utterly optional feature that please people because YOU do not think it is necessary? Lovely....I honestly do not think it is necessary to be able to play a female inquisitor, do you see me arguing against it?

So you represent the masses, then? Because YOU want this feature, then EVERYONE wants it?

I'm so happy that you actually read my post. I didn't say "no" to it. I said that if it made sense, great. And that I don't feel every game needs it. I'm just as entitled to an opinion as you are.

If you didn't want anyone to disagree with you, maybe you shouldn't have created a thread.

NG+ gratia NG+'s

Simple as that really, the feature makes sense because of its very premise to a lot of people, no I do not represent the masses but ask Eidos if they think people want it or not

[crimzontearz]

ArtemisMoons wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

happy_daiz wrote...

Nah. Not every game needs NG+.

Like Jimmy said, if it brought something completely awesome to the table, fine. Otherwise, I don't think it's necessary.

so...no to an utterly optional feature that please people because YOU do not think it is necessary? Lovely....I honestly do not think it is necessary to be able to play a female inquisitor, do you see me arguing against it?

Except one might argue that gender choice adds more RPG value (something an RPG might want lol) than NG+. 
Why should they spend more money to implement a system if it doesn't bring anything more to the table-- other than pleasing you, apparently?

not just me, and you know NG+ is a feature that pleases a number of people AND according to Bioware itself is fairly inexpensive AND they tried to add it to DA2 as well but ran out of time

[l7986]

Could care less either way, but I will kick a ****ing puppy if the weapons we get are like ME3's where you can only get the first five levels during your first playthrough, and the final five in the second.

[Former_Fiend]

I'd like to see a NG+ feature, but it isn't a deal breaker for me.

[AresKeith]

TipsLeFedora wrote...

I wouldn't put this anyone near top priority. I would only add this feature if I have some tome left in my cycle

[crimzontearz]

Lathrim wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

ArtemisMoons wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

happy_daiz wrote...

Nah. Not every game needs NG+.

Like Jimmy said, if it brought something completely awesome to the table, fine. Otherwise, I don't think it's necessary.

so...no to an utterly optional feature that please people because YOU do not think it is necessary? Lovely....I honestly do not think it is necessary to be able to play a female inquisitor, do you see me arguing against it?

Except one might argue that gender choice adds more RPG value (something an RPG might want lol) than NG+. 
Why should they spend more money to implement a system if it doesn't bring anything more to the table-- other than pleasing you, apparently?

not just me, and you know NG+ is a feature that pleases a number of people AND according to Bioware itself is fairly inexpensive AND they tried to add it to DA2 as well but ran out of time

Seeing as about 50% of all gamers are female (and a majority of them can be expected to prefer playing as female characters), I'd argue that is far more important than NG+. Just saying.

hence why I used it in ny example (you know, hyperbole and all)

[ArtemisMoons]

crimzontearz wrote...
not just me, and you know NG+ is a feature that pleases a number of people AND according to Bioware itself is fairly inexpensive AND they tried to add it to DA2 as well but ran out of time 

While I agree that it's not just you, YOU are the one constantly making threads and talking about NG+ in just about every thread you go into. You seem to be the only one who will melt into a puddle of despair if they don't include it. xD
That said, my point was to counter your comment on "well I don't see the need to play as a female so it's totally the same thing as asking for ng+". And I did that. So that's all of my two cents really since I couldn't really care about NG+ and whether or not they add it. 
If they do, swell. I just hope that they have a reason for it rather than "whoo, NG+" because enemies that do not level means that you'll be way above everything else's level which sounds really boring to me. If they don't add it, swell. It is not essential for a good game. 

[AlexJK]

crimzontearz wrote...

so...no to an utterly optional feature that please people because YOU do not think it is necessary? Lovely....

Calm down now... in the same way as you seem to believe that NG+ is the best feature that anyone has ever invented in gaming, some people don't really see the point or get any value out of it, and would rather it not be included, in favour of some other feature that they would prefer. It's OK to have a different opinion, but if everyone's calm about it then then topic doesn't get locked!

For me, I don't see great value of NG+ in a game like Dragon Age where the replay value is, IMO, in choosing a different class/background, rather than playing the same one again, but each to their own.

[Fast Jimmy]

You DO realize that the added skills have nothing to do with NG+ in ME1 right??

Of course it does. You have to complete certain objectives in the original game in order to unlock them, yes, but the bonuses and added skills don't become active or available until you create a new character. You can still use these without choosing the "New Game +" feature, but it is still added bonuses for completing the game that make further playthroughs easier. That is, by definition, the very principle of New Game +.

Modifié par Fast Jimmy, 16 octobre 2013 - 02:50 .

[ScarMK]

75% of me agrees with Jimmy.  the last 25% is reminded of a child throwing a tantrum to get what they want.

 

crimzontearz wrote...
Lovely....I honestly do not think it is necessary to be able to play a female inquisitor, do you see me arguing against it?

 

IF I CAN'T HAVE IT, YOU CAN'T HAVE IT EITHER.

Modifié par ScarMK, 16 octobre 2013 - 02:53 .

[Taleroth]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

That is, by definition, the very principle of New Game +.

In that case, Dragon Age Origins had new game plus. Because you could unlock specializations for the new game.

But that's not even remotely close to what people are talkign about for new game +. They want to use the progression they had at the end for the beginning. Not just unlock a few helpers.

[crimzontearz]

ArtemisMoons wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...
not just me, and you know NG+ is a feature that pleases a number of people AND according to Bioware itself is fairly inexpensive AND they tried to add it to DA2 as well but ran out of time 

While I agree that it's not just you, YOU are the one constantly making threads and talking about NG+ in just about every thread you go into. You seem to be the only one who will melt into a puddle of despair if they don't include it. xD
That said, my point was to counter your comment on "well I don't see the need to play as a female so it's totally the same thing as asking for ng+". And I did that. So that's all of my two cents really since I couldn't really care about NG+ and whether or not they add it. 
If they do, swell. I just hope that they have a reason for it rather than "whoo, NG+" because enemies that do not level means that you'll be way above everything else's level which sounds really boring to me. If they don't add it, swell. It is not essential for a good game. 

incorrect, if they do not add it I will likely find it pointless to buy the game

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

I don't care, honestly. I rarely use NG+ when the option is there.

[crimzontearz]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

You DO realize that the added skills have nothing to do with NG+ in ME1 right??

Of course it does. You have to complete certain objectives in the original game in order to unlock them, yes, but the bonuses and added skills don't become active or available until you create a new character. You can still use these without choosing the "New Game +" feature, but it is still added bonuses for completing the game that make further playthroughs easier. That is, by definition, the very principle of New Game +.

the feature was tied to ACHIEVEMENTS and was applicable to fresh runs so no, it had nothing to do with NG+

And you likely do not understand why people want NG+ to begin with