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[MegaSovereign]

rekn2 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

I'm willing to give it a look. What sorts of things are you concerned about?

this goes with what massively posted a few above you...i like characters, if i feel uneasy because those characters might get wiped like they did in me3 then why get invested in the first place. i stay away from wasps because ive been stung a few times, when i see another 1 i dont wait to get stung i just move away.

Then don't get invested? No one is forcing your hand.

[Reorte]

MegaSovereign wrote...

rekn2 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

I'm willing to give it a look. What sorts of things are you concerned about?

this goes with what massively posted a few above you...i like characters, if i feel uneasy because those characters might get wiped like they did in me3 then why get invested in the first place. i stay away from wasps because ive been stung a few times, when i see another 1 i dont wait to get stung i just move away.

Then don't get invested? No one is forcing your hand.

Right, as if that's the sort of thing that's directly under your control. That makes about as much sense as "don't get happy or sad" about something.

[Iakus]

AlexMBrennan wrote...

in the words of the who.

I think Esbern said it better:
"But no one wanted to believe... And when the truth finally dawns... It dawns in fire!"

I like Gandalf:

"The burned hand teaches best. After that advice about fire goes to the heart"

[DirtySHISN0]

AsheraII wrote...
Same here, I very much agree that the Mass Effect universe is big and interresting enough to stand on its own, without a mandatory Shepard.
I'm not as anti-endings as TB is though. (he admitted there that he actually didn't even PLAY the game to its endings). They're not fantastic endings, but not terrible either. I would've done them different myself if I had been the developer, but ah well.

But yes, I'd love to see more of the ME universe, and do believe it could eclipse the Star Wars and Star Trek IPs if used right. The ME universe is already of a better quality. It just has to be put to good use now.

Its hard not to talk about the ME3 ending(s) when discussing what people would like for ME4. They were such a blunder. Bioware certainly made it hard for themselves to follow up ME3 without upsetting a large portion of the fan base.

Either way i really enjoy the universe.

Modifié par DirtySHISN0, 20 octobre 2013 - 01:06 .

[Legion of 1337]

ME4 will be like one of two things:

1.The Prequels
2.Next Gen

I'm a cynic so I'm betting 1 but if I'd hope for 2.

[DirtySHISN0]

Legion of 1337 wrote...

ME4 will be like one of two things:

1.The Prequels
2.Next Gen

I'm a cynic so I'm betting 1 but if I'd hope for 2.

3 if you count tangent story. Could always be a sideline to commander sherpard or even before shepard becomes a spectre.

[FlamingBoy]

MegaSovereign wrote...

rekn2 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

I'm willing to give it a look. What sorts of things are you concerned about?

this goes with what massively posted a few above you...i like characters, if i feel uneasy because those characters might get wiped like they did in me3 then why get invested in the first place. i stay away from wasps because ive been stung a few times, when i see another 1 i dont wait to get stung i just move away.

Then don't get invested? No one is forcing your hand.

Feelings are not within a persons control

[Morty Smith]

FlamingBoy wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

rekn2 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

I'm willing to give it a look. What sorts of things are you concerned about?

this goes with what massively posted a few above you...i like characters, if i feel uneasy because those characters might get wiped like they did in me3 then why get invested in the first place. i stay away from wasps because ive been stung a few times, when i see another 1 i dont wait to get stung i just move away.

Then don't get invested? No one is forcing your hand.

Feelings are not within a persons control

And that is why every person offended by something always murders their neighbor.

[FlamingBoy]

Kroitz wrote...

FlamingBoy wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

rekn2 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

I'm willing to give it a look. What sorts of things are you concerned about?

this goes with what massively posted a few above you...i like characters, if i feel uneasy because those characters might get wiped like they did in me3 then why get invested in the first place. i stay away from wasps because ive been stung a few times, when i see another 1 i dont wait to get stung i just move away.

Then don't get invested? No one is forcing your hand.

Feelings are not within a persons control

And that is why every person offended by something always murders their neighbor.

Your confusing action with feelings, actions are in our control and they can be fueled by feelings.

[Morty Smith]

FlamingBoy wrote...

Kroitz wrote...

FlamingBoy wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

rekn2 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

I'm willing to give it a look. What sorts of things are you concerned about?

this goes with what massively posted a few above you...i like characters, if i feel uneasy because those characters might get wiped like they did in me3 then why get invested in the first place. i stay away from wasps because ive been stung a few times, when i see another 1 i dont wait to get stung i just move away.

Then don't get invested? No one is forcing your hand.

Feelings are not within a persons control

And that is why every person offended by something always murders their neighbor.

Your confusing action with feelings, actions are in our control and they can be fueled by feelings.

But if you would not be able to temper/control your feelings, they would peak in action.

[FlamingBoy]

Kroitz wrote...

FlamingBoy wrote...

Kroitz wrote...

FlamingBoy wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

rekn2 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

I'm willing to give it a look. What sorts of things are you concerned about?

this goes with what massively posted a few above you...i like characters, if i feel uneasy because those characters might get wiped like they did in me3 then why get invested in the first place. i stay away from wasps because ive been stung a few times, when i see another 1 i dont wait to get stung i just move away.

Then don't get invested? No one is forcing your hand.

Feelings are not within a persons control

And that is why every person offended by something always murders their neighbor.

Your confusing action with feelings, actions are in our control and they can be fueled by feelings.

But if you would not be able to temper/control your feelings, they would peak in action.

When I say cannot control feelings, I mean in terms of how the individual feels such as feeling happy, sad,  depressed, or "invested".

Feelings can lead to action which can lead to a loss of self control however no action on my part can prevent me from being "invested" that kind of thing happens before you know it, and when it does happen to steps to avoid it are often to late.

[Linkenski]

I think, considering how far Bioware went writing-wise (characterization and stuff) I want them to embrace the potential in making a new fresh start. I felt like some ME3 characters had such long arcs from ME1 to ME3 that their character changes sometimes felt unbelievable or just crossing certain restrictions because they came from their ME1 characters (in which the writing was only awful to decent).

Yeah, it's time for something new. I like Shepard but whether he died or not in that destroy ending or rode into the sunset in MEHEM I want BW to move on now!

[Linkenski]

 "I still don't think that publicly Bioware actually understands the problem that their ending had"
This is really the only thing that still pisses me off and makes me care about ME3 ending. Bioware is in trouble if they don't soon show they know what they actually did wrong because them "underestimating" players' sense of entitlement to Shepard is just the icing on the cake of what went wrong.

ME3's ending is a literary failure.

[Linkenski]

StreetMagic wrote...

Without Shepard, I bet the stories will veer into (maybe fun/passable) "franchise" excursions. i.e. Like the Clone Wars. The equivalent of "light reading" material.

I guess it's up to individuals whether that's a good thing or not.

Unless Bioware steps up and makes something ambitious or engaging, which the universe has the potential to show.

I would personally like a game where you play as some sort of low-class character with no real power and make it a more personal story. Maybe like a human-analysis with a sci-fi twist since we're in space and there's other races. Dunno if I'm thinking sunshine and bunnies here but I really like the overall idea of that.

[Eterna]

People still care about him?

[Morty Smith]

Eterna5 wrote...

People still care about him?

Don´t be a jelly-bean, whoever you are.

[Reorte]

Linkenski wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

Without Shepard, I bet the stories will veer into (maybe fun/passable) "franchise" excursions. i.e. Like the Clone Wars. The equivalent of "light reading" material.

I guess it's up to individuals whether that's a good thing or not.

Unless Bioware steps up and makes something ambitious or engaging, which the universe has the potential to show.

I would personally like a game where you play as some sort of low-class character with no real power and make it a more personal story. Maybe like a human-analysis with a sci-fi twist since we're in space and there's other races. Dunno if I'm thinking sunshine and bunnies here but I really like the overall idea of that.

There's certainly plenty of potential in the Mass Effect universe, whether or not it'll be realised is questionable. BioWare seem to give the impression that they utterly miss the point of a lot of complaints (e.g. the Mako).

[marcelo caldas]

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

I know I'm pretty excited for Dragon Age Inquisition for many reasons, despite how disappointing DA2 was. But with Mass Effect they're gonna have to earn my trust again. The first step is to not make it a prequel/midiquel. If they do then they're gonna fail right outta the gate and I'm just gonna pretend it doesn't exist. I'll only be paying attention to Dragon Age and the new IP from that point on.

That's why they are saying ME4 won't relate at all to the trilogy, they can't make a prequel because no one will play and they can't make a sequel because they screwd the universe.

by the way, I think they are lying

[KR96]

Straken-SWE wrote...

For most of it a really agree, the universe is solid as it is, it's so much more than just Sheppard, Liara and the rest of the crew.
Fresh start yeah

I think ME3 is great though, and the endings doesn't really bother me, so good for me right.

Yeah, a fresh start is exactly what the game needs. I just hope they're not going to deny that Shepard and all the events that made such a huge impact on the entire galaxy ever took place, if the game were to be set after the events of ME3, that is. 

Modifié par killerrabbit1996, 24 octobre 2013 - 09:11 .

[Lost Mercenary]

 I gotta admit I really like the guys idea about a criminal getting a gang together to fulfil some selfish personal goal.

[Skvindt]

caldas wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

I know I'm pretty excited for Dragon Age Inquisition for many reasons, despite how disappointing DA2 was. But with Mass Effect they're gonna have to earn my trust again. The first step is to not make it a prequel/midiquel. If they do then they're gonna fail right outta the gate and I'm just gonna pretend it doesn't exist. I'll only be paying attention to Dragon Age and the new IP from that point on.

That's why they are saying ME4 won't relate at all to the trilogy, they can't make a prequel because no one will play and they can't make a sequel because they screwd the universe.

by the way, I think they are lying

I don't think they are being entirely honest either.

[marcelo caldas]

Linkenski wrote...

 "I still don't think that publicly Bioware actually understands the problem that their ending had"
This is really the only thing that still pisses me off and makes me care about ME3 ending. Bioware is in trouble if they don't soon show they know what they actually did wrong because them "underestimating" players' sense of entitlement to Shepard is just the icing on the cake of what went wrong.

ME3's ending is a literary failure.

I'll drink to that.
unfortunately they can't and won't admit it
so they will continue to make blury, ambiguous and semi-truthful statements like "you won't be deciding from A B C ending" or "there will be no reaper killswitch".

 

[Reorte]

caldas wrote...

That's why they are saying ME4 won't relate at all to the trilogy, they can't make a prequel because no one will play and they can't make a sequel because they screwd the universe.

by the way, I think they are lying

It'll be a prequel or sequel purely in terms of the date it's supposed to be set, but not in terms of any story elements. It won't relate to the trilogy simply by not having anything to do with and not referring to the characters and plot of that trilogy.

At least that's my guess.