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NuclearTech76 wrote...

ClydeInTheShell wrote...

Really.

While we're at it, why don't we bring up the accusations against Jay Hoxtatron?

*ducks, runs and hides*

I'm not srs btw, and neither is this thread.

Thing is most everyone really liked Jay. He was a nice guy. Kind of pains me to see that.


Subjective.


I'd rather not talk about opinions on posters who aren't even here to defend themselves since such a thing is uncouth.

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NuclearTech76 wrote...

ClydeInTheShell wrote...

Really.

While we're at it, why don't we bring up the accusations against Jay Hoxtatron?

*ducks, runs and hides*

I'm not srs btw, and neither is this thread.

Thing is most everyone really liked Jay. He was a nice guy. Kind of pains me to see that.


I said it as a joke, because I know Deebo was cool with him, but as I said I'm not serious. I don't know the whole story and am not interested in dragging anyone's name through the mud, especially if you guys are/were friends with him.

edit: I agree Wookie, but whether he's here or not I was only joking.

Modifié par ClydeInTheShell, 18 octobre 2013 - 01:29 .


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NuclearTech76 wrote...

ClydeInTheShell wrote...

Really.

While we're at it, why don't we bring up the accusations against Jay Hoxtatron?

*ducks, runs and hides*

I'm not srs btw, and neither is this thread.

Thing is most everyone really liked Jay. He was a nice guy. Kind of pains me to see that.

 Yeah, Link was always kind of a dick in comparison.

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It's not only the 66666 builds. The guy had instakill enemies fixed where there was no chance of him getting killed that way, also had the updating of the AI to retarded speed where it's almost impossible to be shot, had damage increased on some attacks as well.

Carry on defending him though.


Now, I don't want to defend him, but the only thing there was solid proof of was the 3rd you mentioned. The 1st one cannot, by its own nature, be proven, and the 2nd can only be "proven" up to a bit.

That said, the 3rd alone is more than enough to justify him being criticized that much on bsn.

 

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NuclearTech76 wrote...

Deerber wrote...

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It's not only the 66666 builds. The guy had instakill enemies fixed where there was no chance of him getting killed that way, also had the updating of the AI to retarded speed where it's almost impossible to be shot, had damage increased on some attacks as well.

Carry on defending him though.


Now, I don't want to defend him, but the only thing there was solid proof of was the 3rd you mentioned. The 1st one cannot, by its own nature, be proven, and the 2nd can only be "proven" up to a bit.

That said, the 3rd alone is more than enough to justify him being criticized that much on bsn.

Fair enough. Let's just say that the behaviour of instakill enemies was very odd in some of his videos. And I mean there is a close call or two in a lot of legit solos but you only get away with that crap for so long before you get shanked.


Well, just to chat a bit on the argument, not to really give importance to it, I couldn't care less...

But I played on his host quite some times and did get grabbed on a couple of occasions. Definitely seemes normal from that point of view. Then again, he might have altered the coalesced only for solos of course so that's a mute point...

ISHYGDDT wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

ClydeInTheShell wrote...

Really.

While we're at it, why don't we bring up the accusations against Jay Hoxtatron?

*ducks, runs and hides*

I'm not srs btw, and neither is this thread.

Thing is most everyone really liked Jay. He was a nice guy. Kind of pains me to see that. 

 Yeah, Link was always kind of a dick in comparison.


Well, I had no problem with Link, he was not that bad, but Jay is just that much cooler and nicer.

Modifié par Deerber, 18 octobre 2013 - 01:44 .


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Element 0 wrote...

Deerber wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

It's not only the 66666 builds. The guy had instakill enemies fixed where there was no chance of him getting killed that way, also had the updating of the AI to retarded speed where it's almost impossible to be shot, had damage increased on some attacks as well.

Carry on defending him though.


Now, I don't want to defend him, but the only thing there was solid proof of was the 3rd you mentioned. The 1st one cannot, by its own nature, be proven, and the 2nd can only be "proven" up to a bit.

That said, the 3rd alone is more than enough to justify him being criticized that much on bsn.

 

*snip*




Does it make a difference anymore? Let the dust settle. Let the past rest.

Modifié par OperatingWookie, 18 octobre 2013 - 01:44 .


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Element 0 wrote...

Deerber wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

It's not only the 66666 builds. The guy had instakill enemies fixed where there was no chance of him getting killed that way, also had the updating of the AI to retarded speed where it's almost impossible to be shot, had damage increased on some attacks as well.

Carry on defending him though.


Now, I don't want to defend him, but the only thing there was solid proof of was the 3rd you mentioned. The 1st one cannot, by its own nature, be proven, and the 2nd can only be "proven" up to a bit.

That said, the 3rd alone is more than enough to justify him being criticized that much on bsn.

 

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Pfff, AQ pls. I know he used 6/6/6/6/6 builds and I didn't count that accusation when numbering things in my post <_<

Modifié par Deerber, 18 octobre 2013 - 01:45 .


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OperatingWookie wrote...

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Deerber wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

It's not only the 66666 builds. The guy had instakill enemies fixed where there was no chance of him getting killed that way, also had the updating of the AI to retarded speed where it's almost impossible to be shot, had damage increased on some attacks as well.

Carry on defending him though.


Now, I don't want to defend him, but the only thing there was solid proof of was the 3rd you mentioned. The 1st one cannot, by its own nature, be proven, and the 2nd can only be "proven" up to a bit.

That said, the 3rd alone is more than enough to justify him being criticized that much on bsn.

 

*snip*




Does it make a difference anymore? Let the dust settle. Let the past rest.

 

No it doesn't matter and it never mattered. 

But there was solid proof that Link was using 6/6/6/6/6 and he never denied it. 

That's all. 

Modifié par Element 0, 18 octobre 2013 - 01:46 .


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OperatingWookie wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

Deerber wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

It's not only the 66666 builds. The guy had instakill enemies fixed where there was no chance of him getting killed that way, also had the updating of the AI to retarded speed where it's almost impossible to be shot, had damage increased on some attacks as well.

Carry on defending him though.


Now, I don't want to defend him, but the only thing there was solid proof of was the 3rd you mentioned. The 1st one cannot, by its own nature, be proven, and the 2nd can only be "proven" up to a bit.

That said, the 3rd alone is more than enough to justify him being criticized that much on bsn.

 

*snip*




Does it make a difference anymore? Let the dust settle. Let the past rest.

But we need our heroes. So we can then tear them down. And when we run out of heroes, we'll just beat on the dead one's corpses.

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Element 0 wrote...

OperatingWookie wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

Deerber wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

It's not only the 66666 builds. The guy had instakill enemies fixed where there was no chance of him getting killed that way, also had the updating of the AI to retarded speed where it's almost impossible to be shot, had damage increased on some attacks as well.

Carry on defending him though.


Now, I don't want to defend him, but the only thing there was solid proof of was the 3rd you mentioned. The 1st one cannot, by its own nature, be proven, and the 2nd can only be "proven" up to a bit.

That said, the 3rd alone is more than enough to justify him being criticized that much on bsn.

 

*snip*




Does it make a difference anymore? Let the dust settle. Let the past rest.

 

No it doesn't matter and it never mattered. 

But there was solid proof that Link was using 6/6/6/6/6 and he never denied it. 

That's all. 


If it never mattered, then you wouldn't have perpetuated this. You wouldn't have been the judge that led to other posters along with N7-Link leaving the forums because of the drama.

You made this matter, and that is why the forums are the way they are.

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OperatingWookie wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

OperatingWookie wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

Deerber wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

It's not only the 66666 builds. The guy had instakill enemies fixed where there was no chance of him getting killed that way, also had the updating of the AI to retarded speed where it's almost impossible to be shot, had damage increased on some attacks as well.

Carry on defending him though.


Now, I don't want to defend him, but the only thing there was solid proof of was the 3rd you mentioned. The 1st one cannot, by its own nature, be proven, and the 2nd can only be "proven" up to a bit.

That said, the 3rd alone is more than enough to justify him being criticized that much on bsn.

 

*snip*




Does it make a difference anymore? Let the dust settle. Let the past rest.

 

No it doesn't matter and it never mattered. 

But there was solid proof that Link was using 6/6/6/6/6 and he never denied it. 

That's all. 


If it never mattered, then you wouldn't have perpetuated this. You wouldn't have been the judge that led to other posters along with N7-Link leaving the forums because of the drama.

You made this matter, and that is why the forums are the way they are.

 

Yeap. I'm the bad guy.

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The Krogan Warlord video showed him killing a Platinum phantom with a single Heavy Melee, this is mathematically impossible. Many forum members tried it at the time and showed it was impossible, everyone who tried it got consistent results. Additionally, in the old thread some people (peddro and others) did the math on paper and it only proved to be the same as in the videos of the forum members. N7-Link Adolf Linkinson did about twice the damage as everyone else. This was pretty much undisputable evidence of cheating.

Modifié par MaxShine, 18 octobre 2013 - 01:52 .


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Out of all of those PC greats/former PC greats I'd say Stentron seemed the coolest of them all. Sy7ar as well.

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Element 0 wrote...

OperatingWookie wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

OperatingWookie wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

Deerber wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

It's not only the 66666 builds. The guy had instakill enemies fixed where there was no chance of him getting killed that way, also had the updating of the AI to retarded speed where it's almost impossible to be shot, had damage increased on some attacks as well.

Carry on defending him though.


Now, I don't want to defend him, but the only thing there was solid proof of was the 3rd you mentioned. The 1st one cannot, by its own nature, be proven, and the 2nd can only be "proven" up to a bit.

That said, the 3rd alone is more than enough to justify him being criticized that much on bsn.

 

*snip*




Does it make a difference anymore? Let the dust settle. Let the past rest.

 

No it doesn't matter and it never mattered. 

But there was solid proof that Link was using 6/6/6/6/6 and he never denied it. 

That's all. 


If it never mattered, then you wouldn't have perpetuated this. You wouldn't have been the judge that led to other posters along with N7-Link leaving the forums because of the drama.

You made this matter, and that is why the forums are the way they are.

 

Yeap. I'm the bad guy.





You're really not the good guy or the bad guy here. It's pretty subjective.

That's not to say there weren't consequences.

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Deerber wrote...


ISHYGDDT wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

ClydeInTheShell wrote...

Really.

While we're at it, why don't we bring up the accusations against Jay Hoxtatron?

*ducks, runs and hides*

I'm not srs btw, and neither is this thread.

Thing is most everyone really liked Jay. He was a nice guy. Kind of pains me to see that. 

 Yeah, Link was always kind of a dick in comparison.


Well, I had no problem with Link, he was not that bad, but Jay is just that much cooler and nicer.


Well some of us did.  All of this is ancient history though, I don't care to dredge it up. 

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FasterThanFTL wrote...

Poor guy was crucified for something almost everyone does now. That is use 66666 builds. His crime was to have 200 extra shields, that is what made him so amazing the 200 extra shields nevermind all the other cool stuff he pulled off.


I think you are gravely mistaken.

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OperatingWookie wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

OperatingWookie wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

OperatingWookie wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

Deerber wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

It's not only the 66666 builds. The guy had instakill enemies fixed where there was no chance of him getting killed that way, also had the updating of the AI to retarded speed where it's almost impossible to be shot, had damage increased on some attacks as well.

Carry on defending him though.


Now, I don't want to defend him, but the only thing there was solid proof of was the 3rd you mentioned. The 1st one cannot, by its own nature, be proven, and the 2nd can only be "proven" up to a bit.

That said, the 3rd alone is more than enough to justify him being criticized that much on bsn.

 

*snip*




Does it make a difference anymore? Let the dust settle. Let the past rest.

 

No it doesn't matter and it never mattered. 

But there was solid proof that Link was using 6/6/6/6/6 and he never denied it. 

That's all. 


If it never mattered, then you wouldn't have perpetuated this. You wouldn't have been the judge that led to other posters along with N7-Link leaving the forums because of the drama.

You made this matter, and that is why the forums are the way they are.

 

Yeap. I'm the bad guy.





You're really not the good guy or the bad guy here. It's pretty subjective.

That's not to say there weren't consequences.

 

Consiquences were for the better. 

All the BSN were freakin zombies lining up to to give Linkinson a BJ. And after that the BSN turned into bitter sexless people :lol:

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Beerfish wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

Poor guy was crucified for something almost everyone does now. That is use 66666 builds. His crime was to have 200 extra shields, that is what made him so amazing the 200 extra shields nevermind all the other cool stuff he pulled off.


I think you are gravely mistaken.


Yeah I don't agree with this assertion either. Not "almost everyone" cheats. There are people on these forums who look down on cheating and won't cheat even though there are no longer consequences attached to it.

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OperatingWookie wrote...

You're really not the good guy or the bad guy here. It's pretty subjective.

That's not to say there weren't consequences.


I don't think that is relevant.

Anyone who proudly shows how big his epeen is shouldn't be surprised when someone kicks him in the balls when it becomes apparent things aren't in order.

There's also a difference between criticizing his achievements and personal attacks.

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Element 0 wrote...

OperatingWookie wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

OperatingWookie wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

OperatingWookie wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

Deerber wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

It's not only the 66666 builds. The guy had instakill enemies fixed where there was no chance of him getting killed that way, also had the updating of the AI to retarded speed where it's almost impossible to be shot, had damage increased on some attacks as well.

Carry on defending him though.


Now, I don't want to defend him, but the only thing there was solid proof of was the 3rd you mentioned. The 1st one cannot, by its own nature, be proven, and the 2nd can only be "proven" up to a bit.

That said, the 3rd alone is more than enough to justify him being criticized that much on bsn.

 

*snip*




Does it make a difference anymore? Let the dust settle. Let the past rest.

 

No it doesn't matter and it never mattered. 

But there was solid proof that Link was using 6/6/6/6/6 and he never denied it. 

That's all. 


If it never mattered, then you wouldn't have perpetuated this. You wouldn't have been the judge that led to other posters along with N7-Link leaving the forums because of the drama.

You made this matter, and that is why the forums are the way they are.

 

Yeap. I'm the bad guy.





You're really not the good guy or the bad guy here. It's pretty subjective.

That's not to say there weren't consequences.

 

Consiquences were for the better. 

All the BSN were freakin zombies lining up to to give Linkinson a BJ. And after that the BSN turned into bitter sexless people :lol:


You know, I never really cared alot about Link's stuff, but now you reminded me of the inuendo threads of last year.
That makes me a sad panda.


Still, I like to think the forums were shaped by said event, much like getting sync-killed by a Geth Prime on wave 3.

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Here is the old thread where he was caught:
http://social.biowar.../index/16315982

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ClydeInTheShell wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

Poor guy was crucified for something almost everyone does now. That is use 66666 builds. His crime was to have 200 extra shields, that is what made him so amazing the 200 extra shields nevermind all the other cool stuff he pulled off.


I think you are gravely mistaken.


Yeah I don't agree with this assertion either. Not "almost everyone" cheats. There are people on these forums who look down on cheating and won't cheat even though there are no longer consequences attached to it.


FTFTL just likes to tell himself that.

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Nothing like some good BSN drama.

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Ledgend1221 wrote...

Nothing like some good BSN drama.

Eh it could get better.

It has yet to devolve into a console versus PC thread but I have high hopes.

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I miss Stentron.