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[KaiserShep]

pablodomi wrote...

I know James Vega has some loyal fans, I don't hate the guy, but there seems to be a pretty clear negative trend against Mac's character... Walters claimed to have personally 'shaped' James Vega (formerly known as 'Sanders') character in his homeworld comic book...

I think it's kind of unfortunate, because despite what one may think of him at first blush, he one of the biggest contributors to whatever positive atmosphere the ship has, which is helped by the presence of Cortez, aside from EDI and Joker, and has more personality than his first impression leads on. The fact that this outwardly macho stereotype is best buddies with an openly gay man on the ship (and even has a quasi-flirtatious bromance) pretty much deconstructs that altogether. I suppose the somewhat higher level of detail in character in comparison to Jacob or Grunt is out of necessity, since you can potentially import a game where a good portion of your recruits are dead.

Modifié par KaiserShep, 22 octobre 2013 - 09:37 .

[Lyrandori]

Ah, very interesting thread, let's give it a go!

This is bringing me back to my very first play-through of each games, and to be completely honest I do not remember all of my first impressions of all of the characters in details. However, I do remember the base idea I had about them. But, keep in mind that - at least for me - a "first impression" is pretty much what I think during the very first minute or two, so for the most part it really doesn't reflect what I actually think about them now, obviously. I do specify a bit more on what I eventually thought about them with my "[Later on]" comments.

Mass Effect

Richard L. Jenkins: You're obviously eager to serve your expandability purpose. Let's see if BioWare decided to give you some life span... *moments later* ...aaaaaand I knew it, oh well.
Nihlus Kryik: Can't wait to know more about this nice-looking alien species... *moments later* ...darn BioWare Jenkis and now him too already? This game is getting very interesting!
Ashley Williams: Female fighter in a sci-fi space suit? Welcome aboard.
Garrus Vakarian: If you're after Saren that's good for me, and you're bold enough to continue the investigation on your own? I think I'll probably need this guy later on. And, by the way, nice Turian.
Kaidan Alenko: You and Joker don't seem to get along well but you seem to be alright on your own, we'll see later. [Later on] And yeah by the way I agree that humans shouldn't be in the Council if we're not ready.
Liara T'Soni: A very cute Asari, damsel in distress style mission going on, and beautiful voice. I like you already.
Tali'Zorah nar Rayya: Your name is awesome and I love your accent. Wai- Wait... BioWare, you're making this character permanent? Nice!
Urdnot Wrex: You sir, are imposing, and I think I'm going to need a tank in this game.
David Anderson: Interesting back-story already, good voice actor too, cool guy.
Jeff "Joker" Moreau: You seem to take things with a (I.E. too much of) grain of salt but as long as you do your job I guess it's ok.
Donnel Udina: I feel like I'm not going to like you very much.
Karin Chakwas: Nice, BioWare, you're giving a story to the medic of the ship, and actually making a medic character on a space ship to start with? This game keeps getting more awesome by the minute! I mean, seriously, you know BioWare could have just directed us toward some high-tech machine to heal our character instead. Nope, BioWare being awesome they developed a medic character, gave her personality and back-story.
Saren Arterius: Obvious villain, I'll deal with you later on that's for sure.
Matriarch Benezia: Obviously following the villain around... but there's something strange about that one. [Later on] HOLY molly you're Liara's mother... wait... what?! No way?!
The Thorian: Yeah... we're going to need bigger guns.
Vigil: That speech and those details, that voice and that music in the background, until this point I was asking myself so many questions about that whole Reapers shenanigans but now I understand the threat better. Wait, is that music the same as the main menu's? Awesome!
Sovereign: *speechless for a moment* OH. MY. GOD. BioWare, that was some of the most epic plot twist mixed in with a character reveal I've ever experienced in video gaming so far. That speech that machine that... REAPER just gave me was amazing. I live because they allow it and I'll die because they demand it? Simple, yet so intimidating. Wow... so that... thing IS a Reaper? Ok who is the lead writer? I want to pay him a beer, wait, two.

Mass Effect 2

Jacob Taylor: Wait, token black guy and Anderson is already important, let me guess, you're going to die in a few moments like Jenkins? Let's face it, black guys in movies AND games often die sooner rather than later. [Later on] Ok, BioWare, you're definitely set on giving character development at every turn in this series are you? Well that's good then! Let's see where it goes for this guy. I doubt he'll be better than Anderson though.
Miranda Lawson: Gosh you're so cold, and your face is weird... *walks away, looks back in silence* "damn that ass, BioWare seriously guys... anyway, well done".
Illusive Man: Ok, I don't trust you. [Later on] By the way I still don't trust you. [Later on] OKAY... okay I get it, you're obsessed with humanity. [Later on] See this base? You want it huh? Too bad, It's going to blow up.
Joker: Joker hey there budy! Holy crap you're walking!
Garrus Vakarian: Holy batman Garrus! Buddy! Thanks BioWare!
Mordin Solus: Ok, this guy is probably the best representation of a Salarian scientist I could think of. And wow you speak fast, completely agreed with that Paragon "slow down a bit" interrupt. [Later on] Dude, you're awesome.
Samara: Seriously, BioWare, you want me to look at her... or do you want me to look at her and listen? Look, the thing is I love the Asari, generally speaking, and this one looks really good. And that deep  'V' cleavage suit of hers is kind of distracting. So either give her a differ- wait... wow this story of hers is actually rather interesting. A space monk samurai with generous breast? Awesome.
Tali'Zorah: Hey there Tali! Good to see you, and sure you can keep that weird Veetor guy... *whispers to her* "pssss, Tali, by the way I'm not working for these guys mmmk?" *clears throat* "...was saying that I should go now.
Morinth: Ok, you're the only Asari so far that I wouldn't touch with a light-year long stick, but I'm here and doing this to help Samara, otherwise oh hell no.
Grunt: Me Shepard, me need muscles. Many things to kill, me need you kill things with me.
Thane Krios: *Intro scenes plays out* Wow this guy kills with style. Wait, why is my Shepard going numb for a moment to let your character being introduced? Wait what did you say? Oh gosh that first line was deep, and holy macaroni, a Drell companion? Welcome aboard!
Jack: Oooooook, not sure if I need a girl with even less clothing than Miranda with some obvious adolescent crisis temper tantrum issues going on, but oh girl you can sure use biotics to defend yourself.
Liara T'soni: Liara! My love! It's soooo good to se- what are you saying just now? What the... Li- Liara? Is that you? And what happened to your voice? Got a cold or something? [Later on] Okay look, my mind and my heart are kinda not feeling well right now but I'll keep that for myself since I'm Shepard, badass incarnate. So I'll walk out of this place pretending for a moment that BioWare didn't completely destroy your character and I'll cry in my cabin about it once I realize it's happening. [Post-LotSB] So, like the new ship? Oh by the way, I got better, now let's just reunite shall we.
Zaeed Massani: Can't help but feeling good at seeing a badass human mercenary beating a Batarian considering how my Shepard is Colonist Ruthless. *Looks at the beaten Batarian* That hurts, doesn't it? *looks back at Zaeed* Welcome aboard. [Later on] Please, uncle Zaeed, tell me another story!
EDI: ...kinda nice actually, very nice voice acting too! Joker obviously seems comfortable with the idea of being monitored by this A.I. though. Good, you'll have to company.
Chakwas: Hey there, nice to see you again!
Aria T'Loak: Erm... well, ok I guess I'll do this task for you, I don't trust you though. Too bad about that first rule.
Legion: Wait... OH... so I had to activate this guy? Damn, well this is my second-playthrough... oh well. Ok, interesting, a Geth companion? Well I'm not sure if I trust "this platform" yet but he's rather cool.
Kelly Chambers: Yeah yeah ok I get it, you're this counselor girl trying to make sure people are psychologically fit and healthy. I also heard that mind and body are one of the same. Look, the thing is ermmm, well you know a woman sometimes need to figure out what's going on with her heart, her interests and someti- want to come to my cabin I have to fish that needs feeding. We could play some poker too.
Shadow Broker: At last, we meet! Ok, you're really ugly and this background music is awesome.
Harbinger: I preferred "The forces of the universe bend to me" over "Our power is unmatched". Although I must say that when you told me that I was only bacteria it kind of annoyed me, but it wasn't so bad when you decided to pretend for a moment that the "flesh is a machine". Yeah yeah ok I get it "you will end us" blah blah blah. What? Relinquish my form to you? I'll relinquish a bullet, where do you want it? Seriously though, stay quiet please I'm trying to pay attention to the fighting here.
Collector General: Ok, somebody at BioWare obviously enjoyed Independence Day *high fives*

Mass Effect 3

James Vega: Who are you? Why is my Shepard so familiar with you? Ok look, I don't know you and the thing is this is Mass Effect 3, have things to do, no time for new characters. [Later on] You're still there? Who are you again? [Later on] Ok, fine, stay, just... you know, shoot Reapers and Cerberus around and we'll be fine.
Garrus: Garrus! Buddy!
EDI:  Ewwwwww, BioWare, seriously? I mean... I can't... ugh. Well... anyway I guess Joker - at the very least - will be the one enjoying it, if anything. [Later on] Obviously BioWare would make Joker fall for this, meh, I preferred her in ME2 the way she was.

(will edit my post later on to continue, not enough time to complete this for now)

Modifié par Lyrandori, 22 octobre 2013 - 02:22 .

[KR96]

I actually really liked Vega, he is a good kind of guy and not in the middle of a damn depression like the rest of the crew, including Shepard. I was glad someone tried to lighten up the mood.

[Excella Gionne]

Mass Effect(I started ME2 first, because I'm on PS3):

Garrus: Wasn't really too interested in him, but he was interesting to have along, because he wasn't someone that was always "by the book" kind of guy. He seemed like he really needed guidance by my Shepard most of the time. Either leading him to a paragon or renegade kind of character.

Ashley: I thought she was nice, but once it got to the "expressing Speciesism" in some sort of way, I just couldn't stand her. I still did talk to her though.

Kaidan: A nice guy, and very soft, but can be serious. I try not to engage in romance with him though because I didn't like him like that.

Wrex: I got to know Wrex much more in Mass Effect, and so, I sort of brought him everywhere with me. He appealed to me the most out of everyone else. He's very calm, and he's very hard to read. I liked him a lot, after that, my opinions on Krogans changed forever. I wanted a Krogan Romance so much! I really love him.

Liara: She doesn't have too much to say, but she was always very quiet. You get to know a lot about Asaris from her, but she's someone you can easily forget if she's on your ship.

Tali: She's not very appealing to me, but I noticed her much more than Liara. It was interesting to learn about the Quarians and the Geth, but i disagreed with her on the Morning War.

[Everyone Is Someone]

Oh, an interesting idea for a thread! I'll go by game, from most positive to most negative.

Mass Effect 1
Wrex: I just thought he was tough and interesting.
Tali: I thought she was resilient, capable, and I thought her Quarian heritage would bond with my spacer first Shep.
Ashley: I liked her because of her voice acting. I just liked the way she said, "Ma'am" at the end of conversations. She was utterly serious about her career, but she also had a playful side, and I liked the way they balanced the two.
Kaidan: All I could hear was Carth Onasi from Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, and I liked Carth, but that meant I couldn't really distinguish Kaidan as his own character.
Garrus: I thought the voice effects applied to Turians' voices were annoying, so I didn't like talking to Garrus all that much.
Liara: She was just dull, and I didn't know what to make of the telepathy or whatever that all the Asari characters (Shiala, Consort, etc.) seemed to had.

I grew to like Liara and Garrus more in the later games. I especially felt Liara's personality was much more interesting starting in the sequel.

Mass Effect 2
Kasumi: Loved her voice-acting, loved Shadow Strike... She was my early favourite.
Jack: At first I thought she was a bit of a cliché, but I grew to like her a lot.
Zaeed: I liked someone who didn't try to rationalize being very good at killing. He wasn't a soldier or a justicar or anything - he's a badass merc, plain and simple.
Legion: Of course having a Geth is cool, but his introduction and acclimatization to the crew was a little too quick for my tastes.
Mordin: Since I was coming from the first game, I didn't like how his skills didn't include Overload. Personality was mixed - the verbal tics could be grating.
Miranda: She was OK, I guess.
Jacob: Why is this Cerberus guy going on about how he has issues with Cerberus? It didn't make a lot of sense.
Samara: I found her design a little silly. It was a little too fantastical for my tastes.
Grunt: A lot of his early dialogue was weird. I didn't understand him at first or what his creation meant.
Thane: Ugh, hated him. They just felt like they threw a whole bunch of random personality traits in a blender. I can just picture a bunch of suits in a conference room brainstorming. "Let's see... we need someone wearing a Matrix trenchcoat. And an assassin - but he feels bad about it! And someone who's deeply spiritual. And someone from an obscure alien species. And someone facing a terminal illness. And someone who has neglected his family and it's time for that to come to a head. Oh, hell, let's throw these all together on the same person!"

I now have positive impressions of most of the squadmates. I think Miranda is probably the one who improved the least (I just wanted to yell, "How can you not know what's going on?" during her loyalty mission...), but I certainly have an overall positive impression of her.

Mass Effect 3
Javik: Eh, at the time, I felt like having a Prothean survive was a bit of a stretch, and I'd have preferred a Salarian or Krogan or Batarian on the team.
Vega: I thought Vega was a typical marine who could be in any game, so I didn't see what was so special.

Since then, Vega has become one of my favourite characters - his humor is much appreciated, and I really loved Javik's role as the voice of dissent in many situations (e.g. on the Geth/Quarian resolution). You need some outsiders and fresh perspectives as the sequels go on.

[Oni Changas]

I liked Vega too. Good to see a latino represent and he's got plenty of good scenes.

Tali seemed much more developed overall in ME2. ME3 Tali is too much of a "Jersey Shore" type that people claimed Vega was. Drunk Tali and crush-on-Garrus-Tali was cute at first, but incredibly immature. In London, we once again see glimpses of a more matured Tali.

Miranda was incredibly bland to me. She had promise when she was no-nonsense in the opening and prologue, but then got too soft. Like all non-Quarian/Merc outfits in ME2, hers was stupid.

Samara was exactly what I'd expect her to be; Asari warrior. She makes a good mother figure for paragade Earthborn/Colonist Shepard.

Thane was VERY different from what I expected. Before playing ME series, I saw him in promo material everywhere and in a soundless clip or two out of combat. I thought Shepard's crew was always an interspecies effort in which all galactic races were under one banner, so I assumed he'd be the first mate. Needless to say I was pleasantly surprised at the depth and brooding tone of the character.

Grunt was unexpected of course, and I kinda thought he'd get out of hand and have to be put down. I love him. He's like a little brother to most of my Shepards.

Zaeed is like a sort of uncle. Always dropping some knowledge and tales of his experiences. Before seeing him, I thought he'd be Arabic.

Kaidan seemed pretty cool. His background gave him lots of potential to be more... charismatic. He should have had a scene depicting his biotic power and since his rank was close to Shep's should have had more of an authoritative presence. My first experience of Kaidan was Horizon, which captured that presence well. He could have evolved more into a hardened vet but instead he's too soft in ME3, aside from his post Sanctuary convo if you take him there.

Mordin is a damn good character. Great representation of Salarians and very deep and charismatic to boot. Powerful scenes and has a lighter side too. A scholar and a gentleman... and a badass.

Ash, much like Kaidan had a very impressionable intro for me at Horizon. Loved her when I got to play ME1 when it came to squad interaction. She was a wiseass and a tough woman and was sexy enough without the over the top ME2/3 femme garbage. ME3 Ash was quite possibly one of the biggest botches of a character this side of Schumacher Bane.

Garrus, if "Archangel" was anything to go by, I always knew he'd be a big presence in this universe. His relationship and the real unofficial second in command of Shepard feels organic enough for me to buy it. At first I thought he'd be a human by the way he was described by Aria and the mercs (didn't know what a Turian was until after). Despite a lack on dialogue on the Normandy in ME2 he still quickly became a favorite. Though in playing ME1 I can understand how people feel bummed he becomes Archangel regardless of how paragon you go on him.

Wrex, much like Garrus I could feel had a great relationship with Shepard. In ME2 it feels very rewarding to have saved him because of that scene when you first visit him on Tuchanka. He was consistent with his brooding-yet wise nature in ME2. In ME3, meh. Too much laughing and gloating and utter hotheadedness for me to believe this is the same krogan whom we fought with and visited in the games prior.

Jacob was a nice addition at first, but his lack of development and almost inhuman coolheadedness shrink his worth. Nice having a brotha in the MEU, but he was always too calm and in ME3 comes off as a total wasted opportunity. He's a biotic but doesn't show it outside of ME2, and decides going back to the Alliance is too shameful? What!? Again, he's got a good enough history and arc in ME2, but suffers from not being capitalized on in ME3.

Liara was incredibly bipolar and inconsistant. She's a scientist, information broker, warrior...eh. In ME1 I at first found her dialogue annoying, but once I got the reasoning behind her always-proper speech (shy, not much exposure to other races) I kinda liked her. This character felt natural until LoTSB. I just don't buy her as a person to be running anything but away from a fight without Shepard and co. She comes across as trying to be tough but being bad at acting so.

Kasumi is a very likeable character in ME2. She's a lone wolf with a heart of gold and very down to earth. In ME3, she's just selfish and annoying with trying to abandon the war and overuse of cloak. This occurs so much so that the character may as well not exist anymore seeing how she never seems to actually interact with anything.

Jack was awesome in ME2. Some dialogue was a bit cheesy at times ("they'd make great victims.") but I liked her unapologetic nature. She reminds me of Riddick in a sense, but again, the lack of armor and all kinda breaks immersion. ME3 Jack is great too, and IMO the best romance for a biotic colonist Shepard but what hurts her is the scale of her behavioral transition. I don't buy that she's changed to much in 6 months. Hell, that hairstyle would take an average person a year at least. Hard pill to swallow that the same chick calling Commander Shepard a p***y is now happy-go-lucky running a classroom full of teenagers. If ME3 happens a couple years after ME2, it'd make perfect sense.

EDI was very likeable in ME2. But, like all good AI in ME3 suffered from Pinnochio syndrome. She REALLY has to ask ONLY Shepard to learn to be human? Why does she hold herself to organics' standards? The overly sexualised body was trying way too had and thus I dismissed her character completely. She became one-dimensional while ruining Joker as well. in love with a machine and wanting to bang it? WTF Bioware. MEH...

Legion was awesome. That's right.Was. The moment he became a sufferer of Pinnochio syndrome in ME3 he dropped in my eyes. In ME2 he was the perfect exemplar of a well-written AI character. He didn't hold himself or his people to organics' standards. The geth were the geth and not synthetics wishing to be organics. They merely wanted to understand us and were intrigued. He had some depth o him in ME2, bringing us into the geth perspective while also giving us the geth's side of the Morning War conflict without bull**** propaganda claiming they were the good guys like in ME3. If Legion had the same logic and beliefs he had in ME2, I'd find Destroy a hard pill to swallow. I didn't want all races to want to be human. Axing the geth felt like I was just getting rid of a group of pretenders.

Finally, Javik. I... was quite conflicted with The Last Prothean. Mainly with the cheap way in which they became characterised as an iron-fisted imperialistic society. I very much prefer them as, you know, promethians. The "Patriarch" race that spread their knowledge for a better future. Instead they become a much more abrasive version of the Turians. Javik himself is pretty good. I like any character that doesn't suck up to the protagonist without being annoying (much like Piccolo and Tien in contrast to Krillin and Yamcha's relationship with Goku). He should have been a bit more of an authority on the Normandy seeing how he had a similar setup in his cycle. But I like that he eventually becomes less abrasive as time goes on. Despite my hatred for drunk Tali, the conversation she has with him is revealing.

[Virgil Tibbs]

Garrus: An erection. Lasted for 3 games, still going.

Modifié par Virgil Tibbs, 22 octobre 2013 - 04:18 .

[conjmk]

First time playing was ME3

Kaidan: WTF? I wanted the girl! not this chubby cheeked dude

Miranda: Holy f*ck your gorgeous

Liara: Friendly blue calamari heads? ok

Tali: Friendly middle eastern alian, why not

Samara: You look like Janet Jackson

Vega: annoying juice head

Steve: oh great, a stereotypical emotional gay guy, just what we need

Jack: Chick who thinks she's a badass, kinda ridiculously good looking too

Jacob: Miranda's sidekick

[KR96]

 ME1:
Kaidan: Standard first squadmate, probably not that interesting.

Jenkins: Jeez, he’s really looking forward to combat. Aaaaand he’s gone.
Ashley: She’s a good shot, I’ll give her that much. Could be very useful,
likely LI as well.
Tali: Woah, we’re taking kids aboard the Normandy? 
Garrus: Yeah, you’re a bit of a bad-ass. That visor makes you look like one
heck of a nerd though.
Wrex: Nice scar buddy, looking to get a couple more? 
Liara: She looks nice, a bit too innocent and naïve, but she might just learn
from travelling with us.
Anderson: Awesome. 

ME2:

Jacob: Good guy working for the wrong people, huh? Hypocrite…
Miranda: Strahovski? Now this should be good! 
Zaeed: God, you are one tough son of a ****. You know how to hold a grudge
too.. But I think we might just get along fine, after killing your former
business partner.
Kasumi: Shame she’s already taken by a damn hologram. Otherwise a very loveable
NPC.  
Grunt: Alright, not my first impression.. but to quote the Citadel DLC: “I love
you, Grunt.”
Thane: Alright, Frog-like assassin. Hope your aim isn’t getting rusty with all
that heavy breathing of yours.
Samara: Cold-hearted daughter of a ****, but might just get the job done. 
Jack: Honestly, put one some damn clothes already. 

Mordin: “Like a hamster on coffee”, but still a very productive and in the end
extremely likeable member of the team. He really was the very model of a
scientist Salarian.
Tali: Oh look who’s all grown up all of a sudden! 
Garrus: Good, I can always use another familiar gun! 
Anderson: Awesome.

ME3
(some new ones, and some reactions on the new roles)
Javik: Lighthen up a bit four-eyes, it’s not like your entire species is gone,
right?
James: I must admit I didn’t feel that much for mr. Vega during my first
playthrough.. but he really grew on me during my second, so in that respect I
really welcomed him to the team, especially as he was the only guy lightening
up the mood…
Ashley: Huge disappointment, not nearly the strong woman she was in ME1
Liara: Sweet, but overly present, probably because she’s the only ‘indestructible’
NPC.
Mordin: Why man, why? Goddamnit.
Wrex: Good to see the guy in fighting shape, although he has gone a little ‘soft
around the edges’.
Tali:  Hiya Admiral! Can I pleeeeaaaase
have your ships?
Garrus: Don’t go all depressing on me know buddy, keep your sh!t together. 
Cortez: Alright, finally a shuttle pilot. Apparently they don’t have those at
Cerberus.
Traynor: You’re likable enough I suppose, lovely voice too. 
Anderson: Awesome. 

Modifié par killerrabbit1996, 22 octobre 2013 - 10:42 .

[TheMyron]

@Everyone is Someone: The voice of Garrus' voice actor wasn't changed much at all, I heard it in Company of Heroes.

[pablosplinter]

Seriously, if after meeting Jenkins you thought he was going to be alive 5 minutes later, I am disappointed in you!

[TheMyron]

pablosplinter wrote...

Seriously, if after meeting Jenkins you thought he was going to be alive 5 minutes later, I am disappointed in you!

I never played a Bioware game before or since the MET, sorry.

Modifié par TheMyron, 25 octobre 2013 - 12:13 .

[DuskWanderer]

 I forgot to talk about the optional squadmates.

Wilson - An even more obvious redshirt than Jenkins, so I had no reaction. I knew he was suspicious, though. 

Kenson - I actually liked her, she was a highpoint of Arrival. I love her desperation when she says that she can't hear the whispers anymore. 

Aria - I deleted Omega from my system for two reasons. One was I needed space. The other was you. By the end of the first run, I was screaming for Aria to shut the hell up. 

Nyreen - She was femslash/Xeno fic material. That's really all I got. If I could have brought along my squad, she might have had great interactions with Garrus (turian life), Kaidan (distrust of biotics), Ashley (military life and trying to live up to impossible expectations), or even EDI (viewed with suspcion by the galaxy at large), and that would have made her better. But now, I needed Aria's love den, apparently. 

[TheMyron]

Nyreen: Dammit, why could I not sneak Garrus into this mission?!

[SwobyJ]

In order of appearance in the story. And '*' means exclusively temporary.

Jenkins* - Awfully eager, but I wasn't looking forward to having him being in my party. Yet I also didn't want him to die. I think Bioware wasted a chance to let me shape someone into someone else entirely. Meh.

Kaidan - His voice was... off to me. And I've met Carth in KOTOR. Kaidan was a weird one. Boring, yet not, exactly. Strong looking, yet not. I wasn't sure what Bioware wanted me to do with him, both out of combat, and in it. Being gay, I also wanted a romance arc with him to try to understand him better, but it didn't happen until ME3.

Ashley - Yeah pink armor was and still is silly. I had the same reaction as Shepard 'recounts' in ME3 though; Ashley clearly was fighting on her own against a small army, and I admired her for that from the get-go. She was harsher than Kaidan but I personally thought I understood why and was okay with it.

Garrus - I wanted to know what was IN the investigation. SO much talk, so little explanation. I didn't care for him joining me, but I wasn't going to ignore it (though you're allowed to). The med clinic shootout didn't endear me to Garrus, but I liked him over time. Not as much as fans of him though. I was always confused why he would join me out of everyone (though Wrex I was confused too; everyone else has solid enough reasons at first).

Wrex - I LOVED his attitude. So much. I wish they remembered how awesome surly Wrex was in ME2-3, but nah, he became much more optimist to fit the story. But really, one of my favorite scenes was meeting him at C-Sec. I wanted him on my ship ASAP, even if I didn't often pick him for my team (especially with me as Vanguard).

Tali - Honestly... I only liked how exotic she seemed to be. As in, I was seeing aliens on the Citadel but they all kinda blurred into each other, and the Hanar/Elcor/Volus 'didn't count' to me. So seeing a Quarian was damn refreshing from the start. I didn't give a damn about her story though, relatively. I only cared once on the Floatilla in ME2 (one of the best parts of the series imo, in itself).

Liara - She seemed... utterly clueless? Like wtf? And tbh she still seems clueless and like someone who would be an easy tool for outside factions and powers. And I was right - her base was bugged in ME2+ . I like HER though, and often bring her along.

Miranda - Annoyance. And I also thought she planned the whole downfall of the Lazurus cell. In a way I still do, but it only fits a mindtwisty theory of mine so I dunno . Catsuits suck. Honestly my first impressions were very terrible outside of Sentinels seemingly being useful to bring along now.

Jacob - Annoyance and it never left. He's one of the only squadmates I spacebar through on convos unless it was the first time through. Why did you flop on this Bioware?

Wilson* - I was simply confused that Bioware never clearly explained who he was working for. We only have theories. WTF? He was kinda a jerk too.

Zaeed - Only talked to him for completionism because he did not interest me at all. Little of the 'merc' stuff did, sadly. I don't appreciate such strongly Renegade characters like him. (this changed later on in ME3, where I liked the messages he gave)

Kasumi - ..adorable? I didn't like how I was getting so many humans at this point, but Kasumi was a nice refreshing take on the Infiltrator-ish class and I enjoyed that. Her voice did take Mass Effect on a turn towards cartoony, but everything about her was interesting and fine enough. But ONLY fine enough - like Zaeed, I didn't quite understand why she was joining me in the first place when I had others to do those similar jobs.

Mordin - JUST SO HAPPY A SALARIAN IS JOINING ME (Damn you ME3!!!!)

Grunt - Just wanted to get it over with. A krogan without a unique attitude? Ugh, give me the poetry krogan any day. (though yeah, I warmed up later and into ME3)

Jack - VERY annoyed. I hated Mass Effect taking on the 'tons of tattoos and swearing for no reason' route, and it didn't make any sense to me at first. Over time I understood, as it was intended I guess. But yeah, her first impressions on me were very (but not totally - I gave her a chance) negative and I barely wanted her on the ship.

Thane - Amazing! I needed a fighter and this is the one for me . Fantastic introduction, one of the peaks of the series to me. (Thane + Legion was my Human Reaper boss team)

Samara - It wasn't so much HER that attracted me, but instead her music theme. A really unique one for the series and it really worked. It was the Illium missions that made me get increasingly enjoyed as the game progressed. Samara herself was neat... but at first I wasn't sure if I would be bored or more interested over time in her (it was the latter for the most part).

Morinth - The thing that interested me about her was the psychopath stuff in itself (nothing I haven't learned before), but the mind control aspect. Asari that outright mind control people to death? WTF??? Loved that. And her voice was good for it too.

Legion - ..enigmatic? I was so interested to see a Geth join and by this point the ME2 crew was sooo far beyond ME1. I wanted to learn EVERYTHING from Legion.

Amanda* - Pretty bad character model, and I didn't trust her from the beginning. I was interesting to see my boyfriend play Arrival years later and not suspect a thing.

Anderson* - Doesn't exactly count does he? Well in ME1 I wasn't particularly impressed by him, especially his face model. I didn't get the 'military admiration' deal between Shep and him, as I'm 100% civvie. However, I liked him more over time. ME3 when he joins me, I was too creeped out by the weirdness of Vancouver and how Anderson behaved during it, tbh. Overall I enjoy Anderson, I'm glad he's involved with so much, but I won't be torn to see him gone (assuming we don't get a 'real ending in a new game' surprise hahaha). Basically, I'll be alright when his role is over

James - Brobrobrojuicymclargebeefetcetcetc. Not impressed. Still doesn't live up to what he could have been, but I like him more now. At first... I almost outright hated him taking up a character slot. Very bad first impression on the game, just saying Bioware.

Javik - Jerk.....

EDI -  ME2 I was pleased to have the ship talk to me, which is almost a staple to much of sci-fi. For ME3's fembot I was VERY happy. However, they put TOO MUCH 'fem' on, and wtf ******toe??? Overall I was pleased at her seeking individuality and more ways to assist us and for us to keep her safe.

Aria* - Holy overpowered attack!! Other than that, whatever. Aria could have been so much better, but she always ends up middle of the road to me. Give me a true ME3 finale with her fleet killing Reapers above me, and THEN I'll care. So far, she's silly filler (as a character)

Nyreen* - ...enjoyed her more than I expected, which annoyed me even more when she died. My first thoughts were: 'Wow, so I guess this is how to write a 'paragon' character in Omega. Not bad, I think.'

[SwobyJ]

Also I'm cool with every character except Jacob, Aria, Nyreen, James, Morinth, Wilson, Virmire Survivor.

The ones listed either sucked from the start (Jacob), or were not given their due (Nyreen, Morinth Wilson, Virmire Survivor), or were mediocre and had room to improve, but somehow didn't (James).

More or less. This post isn't exactly accurate to my feelings.

[N7PT]

I did ME2 first, so I'll start with it.
ME2:

Jacob: Pretty nice guy, looks trustworthy enough to help me get out of this s***hole.
Wilson: This guy is hiding something.
Miranda: DAMN! I've seen this face somewhere though...
Garrus: Nice, this guy is pretty badass. I'm sure I'll need someone like that on such a mission. Not sure why he's acting like he is my best friend though.
Mordin: Crazy doc who isn't afraid of doing what's necessary? Sounds interesting.
Jack: Calm the hell down you crazy woman. And FFS what are you wearing?
Grunt: Better watch my back around this guy.
Ash meeting: Look, that woman from the old ship. WTF is wrong with you?
Liara meeting: Who is this, and why is she blue? I definitely have to play ME1.
Thane: Badass assassin who gets things done. Nice that you want to do some good before you die.
Tali: Why do you have a mask, and what are you doing here? Also, why do you act like you know me?
Samara: You ruthless b****! At least try and find something else from her!

much, much later
Kasumi: Nice, likable, absolutely damn hot, I hope I can romance her just for that figure!
Zaeed: You're torturing a batarian? I like you already!
LOTSB Liara: Now you're ruthless? I hope they added a romance option in the DLC.

ME1:

Jenkins: LOL, you're going to get killed like this.
Kaidan: Meh, you'll probably be the Jacob of ME1
Ashley: I don't want this woman with me, I can't trust her at all.
Tali: So that's where you come from. You can handle yourself kid, I'll give you that.
Garrus: Let the guy complete his investigation for fck's sake. I promise, I'll help you man.
Wrex: Heh, you sure showed that cop. My people have a saying too: "If you can ally yourself with a giant lizard monster, for all that's sacred, do it"
Liara: So... naive... nerdy... will I resist?

not squaddies, but

Udina: I don't like you.
Anderson: Damn, someone listen to the guy! He has even worked with Saren!

ME3:

James: Oh hello mr. Steroids! Is it soup time already?
Ashley: Is that you? Muscles guy, leave me alone. I've got some rekindling to do in me private cell.
Anderson: Missed you, you old bastard. Good to know you at least haven't changed.
Liara: Oh look, miss Ruthless Cute Babe is back, yes! No, don't tell me we'll have to build a goddamned DEM to beat the Reapers!
Garrus: Yes! F*** yes! Come on, let's go!
Javik: Damn! Finally got to meet an actual Prothean. You're ruthless, we'll need that.
Wrex: So now you're leader of an entire race. At least I can always count on you.
Mordin: Nice to have you back. Isn't you voice a little odd though?
Tali:  Can you please tell your admirals they are a bunch of demented arses?
Cortez: I've always wondered who piloted the shuttle.
Traynor: Hot. Very, very hot.
DLC Aria: FLARE! SPAM FLARE! Those centuries of training sure paid off.
DLC Nyreen: A purely support squaddie, I hope I can recruit her after the DLC.

Modifié par N7PT, 05 novembre 2013 - 06:52 .

[illusive.man]

Kaidan:
First: Yay someone normal YAY !
Post: Homosexual who hates ceberus, maybe I should have saved ash

Ash:
First: Racist to Aliens, stupid and arrogant  
Post: MIA presumed killed


Garrus:
First: Turian man of action
Post: Calibrations and Bromance  THE BEST OF MASS EFFECT 


Liara:
First: unsociable naïve archaeologist 
Post: Mysterious information broker and Romance

Tali:
First: Masked Hooded Foreigner
Post: Drunk Sick Alien 

Wrex:
First: What the hell are you !
Post: Great squad member who wants to make the krogran great again  


Jacob:
First: Black Kaidan ?
Post: Generic moron who is useless

Miranda:
First: Eye Candy or Michael Jackson Lookalike ?  
Post: Another Ceberus Moron who is a cold hearted killer, give me someone useful illusive man !


Thane:
First: A assassin.....could be interesting 
Post: A bad drell version of Garrus but still likeable  

Jack:
First: Crazy Biotic Prisoner ?.........Put on some clothes!
Post: Stupid Arrogant Angry Psychopath.......GET THE HELL OFF THE NORMANDY 

Mordin:
First: Funny Salarian Doctor 
Post: Interesting and likeable Salarian Squadmate who can sing

Samara:
First: Religious Assassin.......also very violent 
Post: Crazy Mother who kills children.......Throw her out the airlock

Morinth: MIA presumed killed by Shepard

Grunt:
First: Krogan ?  This could be interesting
Post: Violent Foolish Idiot Who makes me laugh

Kasumi:
First: A thief I don't know could be useful  
Post: Boring but she does have a good loyalty mission

Zaeed:
First: Finally someone who doesn't take any bull**** 
post: Short tempered mercenary what's not to like  

Legion:
First: GETH you say........Welcome Aboard
Post: GREAT Character shame he had to die for Geth and Quarian Peace  

EDI:
First: A.I ? could be intresting
post: Funny also good for joker

Vega:
First: Hispanic Jacob ? this just keeps getting worse Especially how stupid he is stupider then jack what a jar head
Post: MUST KILL NOW....URGE IS IRRISTABLE

Javik:
First: Prothean This could be interesting
Post: Funny racist prothean supremacist

[KaiserShep]

illusive.man wrote...


Kaidan:
First: Yay someone normal YAY !
Post: Homosexual who hates ceberus, maybe I should have saved ash

So what if he is? You don't even know that this unless you explore the dialogue as maleShep (and never can if you lock in a romance before him) and both he and Ash hate Cerberus, so what's the difference? 

Vega:
First: Hispanic Jacob ? this just keeps getting worse Especially how stupid he is stupider then jack what a jar head
Post: MUST KILL NOW....URGE IS IRRISTABLE

Vega is essentially the standard issue "Jacob" of the obligatory squad members, but the similarities kind of end there, as he has a lot more personality and backstory written into him than Jacob. How are either he or Jack stupid? I've never heard Jack say anything particularly dumb.

Modifié par KaiserShep, 05 novembre 2013 - 09:08 .

[Bruce M. Shepard]

First impressions...reading through these, seems like some people forgot that's what this was.


ME1:

Jenkins - Leroy? eager to fight and looks like he was created with the randomized button. Jenkins is coming with on this mission? Yeah, he's dead.

Kaidan - Seems alright enough. bantered well with this Joker fella. (on first actual mission) kind of plain and boring. weak looking. I'm already a biotic, guess i won't be needing you much after this.

Ashley - Hellloo tharr. I think I just found your replacement kaiden(how true that would turn out to be). definitely military...even with the pink armor.

Garrus - turian trying to take down saren too. nice. Itchy trigger finger huh? don't do that again. looks like i have my second squadmate.

Wrex - Tell me I can recruit this bad mother****er. Welcome to the team! see you later, ash.

Tali - muslim alien. not bad. dem hips. seems a bit naive, but i like.

Liara - nice blue looking alien...are those tentacles? seems shy, naive and nerdy. also like.

ME2:

Jacob - token? yeah. seems alright. pretty quick to tell me everything about me. nice guy.

Wilson - something fishy about this guy. annoying as hell....where is the renegade interrupt?

Miranda - they let you wear that? i'm not complaining. cold, callous and short...seems like it'll take some doing, but i'm sure i'll win you over. Obvously going to be my LI.

Jack - why do we have to pick up a convict? and a biotic? he's just going to keep jacob company back on the normandy anyway.Wait, he's a girl?? nicely done. ugh...bald, body full of tats and temperamental. kind of cliche. probably not going to like her. (end up romancing her and becoming my headcannon shep's one and only.)

Grunt - Thank god. I needed a krogan on this boat. you better live up to Wrex, you glorious bastard.

Kasumi - Amusing introduction. not bad. like the sass.

Zaeed - grumpy and old. not bad, but probably won't be of much use to me.

Mordin - Crazy rambling doc...well, at least he seems somewhat interesting.

Thane - Nice entrance. stoic, green and a ninja. you're in.

Samara - Why don't the other asari look like you?? wow. i might have romanced liara if she looked like you. always room for another biotic!

Legion - finally. i'd been hoping for a geth sm...too bad the game is almost over. well, there's always me3. nice armor, buddy.

ME3:

EDI - Waaaaat? pretty interesting...joker is going to love this. wait, is that... cameltoe??

James - No. Why is he coming with? someone is going to be sitting on the bench all game. Where the hell is Jack? Jaaaaack!

Javik - Huh, nice nigerian accent. You're no Krogan, but you'll do. hope you're worth being a day 1 dlc.

Modifié par Matches T. Malone, 05 novembre 2013 - 11:02 .

[TheMyron]

Just before meeting thane: Judging from the sounds coming from up above in the vent, I half expected the Merc's body to come down without a head and possibly a spine, which would have upped my first impression; sadly, it didn't happen.

[TheMyron]

Matches T. Malone wrote...



Javik - Huh, nice Nigerian accent. You're no Krogan, but you'll do. hope you're worth being a day 1 dlc.

I heard some call it "Heavy Jamaican".

[Scowlyface]

Jenkins: I doubt I'll see you again. wait he's coming along. why?....figures

Kaidan: a little to protocal for me...lets talk to him...you pulling protocal on me, boy? Im your superior!

Ashley: you seem to be the most layered character on this ship, get in my bunk.

Garrus: so you're a wannabe badass? no way in hell you'll ever be cool.

Wrex: finally! someone who isnt kissing my ass all the time, hope this is the start of rivalry...no, damn.

Tali:nothing about your story interests me, and I cant see your face, and you hang out in the engine room

Liara: so what your some kind of librarian? yawn. and why are you talking like that?

Jacob: so basically you're here to replace kaidan, but you got a little more style, cool.

Miranda: finally! someone who isnt kissing my ass all the time. I hope this is the start of a rivalry.....that didn't last long.

Zaeed: you presume too much

Mordin: this could be interesting

Grunt: there's my meatshield

Jack: finally! someone who isnt kissing my ass all the time, I hope this is the start of a rival-annnd you're making passes at me.

Thane: you have the voice of sex

Samara: you have the eyes of sex

Morinth: should of wore a sexier outfight

Kasumi: wait so depsite a dark event in your past, you're not fully jaded? I wish we could be besties

Legion: I dont understand half the **** your saying

EDI:bahahaha, s'all good hopefully you have offensive tech powers

Vega: a human for a meatshield?.....well he showed me.

Javik: finally! someone who isnt kissing my ass all the time, hope this is the start of rivalry...oh and you got some for everybody! I like you.

[Scowlyface]

TheMyron wrote...

Matches T. Malone wrote...



Javik - Huh, nice Nigerian accent. You're no Krogan, but you'll do. hope you're worth being a day 1 dlc.

I heard some call it "Heavy Jamaican".

lol, they are heavy wrong.

[P. Domi]

Scowlyface wrote...

TheMyron wrote...

Matches T. Malone wrote...



Javik - Huh, nice Nigerian accent. You're no Krogan, but you'll do. hope you're worth being a day 1 dlc.

I heard some call it "Heavy Jamaican".

lol, they are heavy wrong.

I can corroborate this. First time I heard him I immediately thought he sounded Nigerian. Some people from other West African countries I've met sometimes have a comparable accent too (Cameroon, Ivory Coast)