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[crimzontearz]

Necanor wrote...

Obadiah wrote...

Plus, in Destroy you end up in a peer group of players who hated the Geth and wanted them destroyed, which is not a fun group to end up with.

You've made me curious, how do you know that if you're not actually a part of the group?

I will only pick destroy, I Iiked the Geth. I DO however consider the survival of Shepard and a reunion scene (which we never got....thank you for the art Mac...totally appreciated) to be INSANELY more important than them

[Mcfly616]

crimzontearz wrote...

Necanor wrote...

Obadiah wrote...

Plus, in Destroy you end up in a peer group of players who hated the Geth and wanted them destroyed, which is not a fun group to end up with.

You've made me curious, how do you know that if you're not actually a part of the group?

I will only pick destroy, I Iiked the Geth. I DO however consider the survival of Shepard and a reunion scene (which we never got....thank you for the art Mac...totally appreciated) to be INSANELY more important than them

you're using hindsight to make your decision though. Now that you know he survives, you pick destroy. What if his fate was just as much sealed as the other 2 choices? What if you could go back to the first playthrough and have all the cards on the table? Would you still choose Destroy?

[Deathsaurer]

Br3ad wrote...

Um, how is growing up related to becoming a computer? You would still be human with human emotions, I hope, so it's not the same.

I look at it like the episode of Star Trek TNG where Barkley hooked himself up to the Enterprise's computer and it altered the way he looked at things as a result. This could be perfectly fine, this could be very very bad. It depends how much the Shepard AI decides to meddle.

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

I think the Catalyst may have possibly have had a logical paradox over what his programming stipulated to him versus the mission that he was assigned by his creators.

I thought the parallels to HAL were obvious.

[crimzontearz]

Mcfly616 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

Necanor wrote...

Obadiah wrote...

Plus, in Destroy you end up in a peer group of players who hated the Geth and wanted them destroyed, which is not a fun group to end up with.

You've made me curious, how do you know that if you're not actually a part of the group?

I will only pick destroy, I Iiked the Geth. I DO however consider the survival of Shepard and a reunion scene (which we never got....thank you for the art Mac...totally appreciated) to be INSANELY more important than them

you're using hindsight to make your decision though. Now that you know he survives, you pick destroy. What if his fate was just as much sealed as the other 2 choices? What if you could go back to the first playthrough and have all the cards on the table? Would you still choose Destroy?

I do not play a game like this without full spoilers and guides


 
That said, if there was no breath scene and no memorial scene psychic I would pick control because survival as a god is not as good as survival as a human being but still better than forced death BS

[crimzontearz]

StreetMagic wrote...

I wonder if people who pick those two (Control/Synthesis) see Shepard in more mythological terms.. (I'll try to avoid just calling it Space Jesus). I think Destroy and Refuse types just see a man or woman trying to get a job done.. A soldier. They never wanted to play these games with the hope of becoming Ascended Beings one day.

tell that to mac

[crimzontearz]

StreetMagic wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

I wonder if people who pick those two (Control/Synthesis) see Shepard in more mythological terms.. (I'll try to avoid just calling it Space Jesus). I think Destroy and Refuse types just see a man or woman trying to get a job done.. A soldier. They never wanted to play these games with the hope of becoming Ascended Beings one day.

tell that to mac

If I knew how to even contact him, I'd probably just spank him with a ME2 disc. No talking necessary. edit: Actually, I'd tell him he used to be awesome, while doing it.

he might like that

[GreyLycanTrope]

Necanor wrote...
No, I don't actually value the lives of people based on their deeds. I just don't see any reason, why some AI is worth saving over the greatest hero of the galaxy. EDI can be rebuilt, Shepard can't. EDI is an inanimate object, Shepard is a living being. 

Actually yes s/he can. We had a clone on the Citadel and everything. Now you could say "that's not really Shepard, they don't have the same memories" but EDI is actually in the same boat in that department, you could make an AI based on the same design but it wouldn't be her, it wouldn't share EDIs memories. Geth VI is no Legion.

[Sir DeLoria]

Greylycantrope wrote...

Necanor wrote...
No, I don't actually value the lives of people based on their deeds. I just don't see any reason, why some AI is worth saving over the greatest hero of the galaxy. EDI can be rebuilt, Shepard can't. EDI is an inanimate object, Shepard is a living being. 

Actually yes s/he can. We had a clone on the Citadel and everything. Now you could say "that's not really Shepard, they don't have the same memories" but EDI is actually in the same boat in that department, you could make an AI based on the same design but it wouldn't be her, it wouldn't share EDIs memories. Geth VI is no Legion.

Her? I think you mean 'it'. 

My point was anyway, that despite the obvious loss of personality, she could more or less be recreated, at least physically. The personality of Joker's sexbot isn't worth dying over.

[crimzontearz]

Necanor wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

Necanor wrote...
No, I don't actually value the lives of people based on their deeds. I just don't see any reason, why some AI is worth saving over the greatest hero of the galaxy. EDI can be rebuilt, Shepard can't. EDI is an inanimate object, Shepard is a living being. 

Actually yes s/he can. We had a clone on the Citadel and everything. Now you could say "that's not really Shepard, they don't have the same memories" but EDI is actually in the same boat in that department, you could make an AI based on the same design but it wouldn't be her, it wouldn't share EDIs memories. Geth VI is no Legion.

Her? I think you mean 'it'. 

My point was anyway, that despite the obvious loss of personality, she could more or less be recreated, at least physically. The personality of Joker's sexbot isn't worth dying over.

I would love to explain that to joker

[Deathsaurer]

StreetMagic wrote...

I wonder if people who pick those two (Control/Synthesis) see Shepard in more mythological terms.. (I'll try to avoid just calling it Space Jesus). I think Destroy and Refuse types just see a man or woman trying to get a job done.. A soldier. They never wanted to play these games with the hope of becoming Ascended Beings one day.

I doubt you'll find a classification for everyone that pick any particular choice. Different people will have different reasons. I'm sure some people do see it that way but I don't think that really matters.

[Xilizhra]

Steelcan wrote...

literally every slot in my feed is taken up by this thread and I don't see David or Xil

I was at work.

Anyway, I'm somewhat irked by the ending in many ways, but find it acceptable. Even though I think that killing off the protagonist after killing and reviving them once already is quite, quite silly. Destroy is utterly repugnant to me, while Synthesis is interesting but very poorly explained, so I choose Control because it has the least impact on the galaxy and allows me to take a hand in fixing things.

[General TSAR]

crimzontearz wrote...

I would love to explain that to joker

"I sacrificed your sexbot to save the entire galaxy, deal with it."

Modifié par General TSAR, 20 octobre 2013 - 12:53 .

[crimzontearz]

General TSAR wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

I would love to explain that to joker

"Your sexbot is dead, deal with it."

I would not be that nice

[Steelcan]

Xilizhra wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

literally every slot in my feed is taken up by this thread and I don't see David or Xil

I was at work.

Anyway, I'm somewhat irked by the ending in many ways, but find it acceptable. Even though I think that killing off the protagonist after killing and reviving them once already is quite, quite silly. Destroy is utterly repugnant to me, while Synthesis is interesting but very poorly explained, so I choose Control because it has the least impact on the galaxy and put m race of waifus in charge of everything allows me to take a hand in fixing things.

[Mcfly616]

crimzontearz wrote...
I do not play a game like this without full spoilers and guides

what a shame. How anti-climactic every single game "like this" must be for you.

That said, if there was no breath scene and no memorial scene psychic I would pick control because survival as a god is not as good as survival as a human being but still better than forced death BS

you're aware that you don't always control when and where you leave this place.....right? Nobody is entirely in control of their fate. So, your "forced death BS" is quite realistic. In fact, one could say it's "art" imitating life. Hmm....

[General TSAR]

crimzontearz wrote...
I would not be that nice

You're right, I would then recommend that Joker given a Psychological Evaluation for his sexual fetish for robots and have him grounded until further notice.

Modifié par General TSAR, 20 octobre 2013 - 12:58 .

[Deathsaurer]

StreetMagic wrote...
Yeah, it's just a thought. At the very least, I don't think they see the story in the same down-to-earth terms as Destroy/Refuse. edit: Not saying they have to either btw.

In their defense it's not exactly hard to see things in grandiose terms when everyone throws the fate of the galaxy on your back including your enemies leader. Bioware wasn't exactly shy about playing up the symbolism either. Just look at the symbolism for Control (taking the reins) and Synthesis (leap into the unknown).

[Cainhurst Crow]

General TSAR wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...
I would not be that nice

You're right, I would then recommend that Joker given a Psychological Evaluation for his sexual fetish for robots and have him grounded until further notice.

Nah, just have javik throw him out the airlock with a interupt.

[crimzontearz]

Mcfly616 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...
I do not play a game like this without full spoilers and guides

what a shame. How anti-climactic every single game "like this" must be for you.

That said, if there was no breath scene and no memorial scene psychic I would pick control because survival as a god is not as good as survival as a human being but still better than forced death BS

you're aware that you don't always control when and where you leave this place.....right? Nobody is entirely in control of their fate. So, your "forced death BS" is quite realistic. In fact, one could say it's "art" imitating life. Hmm....

perhaps, but I THOROUGHLY  enjoy being in control of all the possible outcomes, I always did and always will. Lack of control = no enjoyment. Problem?

Sure, I know in reality we are not in control....newsflash, this is not reality, if I wanted a reminder of the bleakness and uncertainty and fragility of life I would watch the GODDAMN NEWS. Yes I play for escapism and yes if there is ONE THING mass effect 3 taught me is ALWAYS get full spoilers before finalizing the purchase of any entertainment piece I have emotional investment in