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Why are those who choose Control and Synthesis so much happier with the ending?


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#201
Xilizhra

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Steelcan wrote...

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You need to lighten up

I'm legitimately worried for the future of AI rights IRL, and suspect it may become an issue in my own lifetime.

Most research I've seen has said that any real AI is science fiction and nothing more.

Regardless, they are machines

Sadly, my response would probably get me banned, so I can't continue this line of discussion.

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What's not to like about seeing my completely ruthless Renegade Shepard becoming the God Emperor of Mankind and ruling over the Milky Way with an iron fist?

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AI's probably wouldn't have rights in reality, largely because their components are someone's property, and wouldn't retain bodily autonomy. Imagine an AI in a laptop? Should I go to prison if I take the battery out and never replace it?

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KaiserShep wrote...

AI's probably wouldn't have rights in reality, largely because their components are someone's property, and wouldn't retain bodily autonomy. Imagine an AI in a laptop? Should I go to prison if I take the battery out and never replace it?

Yes.

#205
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Xilizhra wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

You need to lighten up

I'm legitimately worried for the future of AI rights IRL, and suspect it may become an issue in my own lifetime.

Most research I've seen has said that any real AI is science fiction and nothing more.

Regardless, they are machines

Sadly, my response would probably get me banned, so I can't continue this line of discussion.

Oh no lets hear it:devil:

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That's nice and everything Hanar, but my Shepard prefers to remain human to revive Cerberus after assassinating Hackett.

#207
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I don't have work tomorrow. Being banned for 24 hours now would really kind of suck.

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Steelcan wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

You need to lighten up

I'm legitimately worried for the future of AI rights IRL, and suspect it may become an issue in my own lifetime.

Most research I've seen has said that any real AI is science fiction and nothing more.

Regardless, they are machines

Racist.

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Xilizhra wrote...

KaiserShep wrote...

AI's probably wouldn't have rights in reality, largely because their components are someone's property, and wouldn't retain bodily autonomy. Imagine an AI in a laptop? Should I go to prison if I take the battery out and never replace it?

Yes.


You'd have to present an actual case to have any kind of definitive answer. The fact that an AI in my laptop would not meet some of the basic criteria for what constitutes a living thing, the courts would not likely confine someone to prison for turning off a piece of equipment that does not bring detriment to another actual person. And more to that subject, the AI in question would have to first be considered a person by the law of the land, not simply have someone sympathetic to Data from Star Trek weigh in on the matter.

Modifié par KaiserShep, 20 octobre 2013 - 01:49 .


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Xilizhra wrote...

KaiserShep wrote...

AI's probably wouldn't have rights in reality, largely because their components are someone's property, and wouldn't retain bodily autonomy. Imagine an AI in a laptop? Should I go to prison if I take the battery out and never replace it?

Yes.


No

#211
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Xilizhra wrote...

I don't have work tomorrow. Being banned for 24 hours now would really kind of suck.

now I'm curious
 :o

Modifié par Steelcan, 20 octobre 2013 - 01:48 .


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Xilizhra wrote...

I'm legitimately worried for the future of AI rights IRL, and suspect it may become an issue in my own lifetime.


Don't worry about it. Or at least, don't worry based on what you see on the BSN. They don't really believe it.

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Xilizhra wrote...

KaiserShep wrote...

AI's probably wouldn't have rights in reality, largely because their components are someone's property, and wouldn't retain bodily autonomy. Imagine an AI in a laptop? Should I go to prison if I take the battery out and never replace it?

Yes.


Cuckoo Cuckoo

#214
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KaiserShep wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

KaiserShep wrote...

AI's probably wouldn't have rights in reality, largely because their components are someone's property, and wouldn't retain bodily autonomy. Imagine an AI in a laptop? Should I go to prison if I take the battery out and never replace it?

Yes.


You'd have to present an actual case to have any kind of definitive answer. The fact that an AI in my laptop would not meet some of the basic criteria for what constitutes a living thing, the courts would not likely confine someone to prison for turning off a piece of equipment.

You're interfering with the bodily autonomy of a sapient being. Claiming to own as property one in whole or in part constitutes slavery.

now I'm curious

Give me your email address and I'll send it to you.

Modifié par Xilizhra, 20 octobre 2013 - 01:49 .


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I can see Xil becoming a future "AI rights" protester the likes of which would make the members of PETA look sane by comparison.

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Xilizhra wrote...
You're interfering with the bodily autonomy of a sapient being. Claiming to own as property one in whole or in part constitutes slavery.

You can't enslave your toaster.

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I don't even know what I'm going to eat tomorrow. Future AI problems are pretty low priority. I'll deal with it if it happens.

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David7204 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

I'm legitimately worried for the future of AI rights IRL, and suspect it may become an issue in my own lifetime.


Don't worry about it. Or at least, don't worry based on what you see on the BSN. They don't really believe it.

I don't believe in AI rights. You're right, David. 

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Cthulhu42 wrote...

I can see Xil becoming a future "AI rights" protester the likes of which would make the members of PETA look sane by comparison.


That's scary

#220
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General TSAR wrote...

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You're interfering with the bodily autonomy of a sapient being. Claiming to own as property one in whole or in part constitutes slavery.

You can't enslave your toaster.

The toaster does not, to my knowledge, possess sapience. If it did and expressed a desire to stop toasting, I would allow it.

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StreetMagic wrote...

You have to admit though how funny it is that the most mundane, simple type of ending is the most fantastical and difficult to imagine.

How do you figure it was difficult to imagine? The more probable explaination is that they didn't want to be "mundane and simple".



Few like Diana Allers, but I like her last email before Priority Earth.. about making everything normal again. "Normal is the best revenge". But it's impossible. Apparently.

I hate Allers. What a waste of time and effort and space. Anyways, I think what she meant by normal, is a world without Reapers. And if "normal" in the literal sense, isn't possible.....it wouldn't be the first time peoples lives were forever changed and never to go back to the way they were. And it won't be the last.

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Xilizhra wrote...

now I'm curious

Give me your email address and I'll send it to you.

i'll get right on that........

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There's no such thing as AI rights.

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Xilizhra wrote...
You're interfering with the bodily autonomy of a sapient being. Claiming to own as property one in whole or in part constitutes slavery


That's not really how slavery works. First and foremost, the "body" in question is a piece of equipment manufactured by a corporation, and regardless of what anyone else may think, its design is the intellectual property of that corporation (or corporations, as computers tend to be an amalgam of components from several), and the equipment itself is the private property of whoever buys it. The software installed does not change that.

By your logic, a person should be charged with criminal neglect if the computer begins to malfunction, and I just don't care to get it fixed anytime soon, or simply forget to charge it. Basically, it would be a ghost on life support that the state would be forcing you to keep alive. Never gonna happen lol.

Modifié par KaiserShep, 20 octobre 2013 - 01:52 .


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Steelcan wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

now I'm curious

Give me your email address and I'll send it to you.

i'll get right on that........

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