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[bEVEsthda]

Sopa de Gato wrote...

Fredvdp wrote
It doesn't exceed the minimum system requirements. It's actually very far below it. The Radeon HD 5450 is eleven tiers below the required HD 3870 on the Tom's Hardware GPU chart.

I dislike these kinds of threads that wind up being "brag about your PC specs" but whoever comes up with the naming scheme for GPUs needs a serious flogging. That whole market is a scam, anyway.

It's soooo easy. It's the second digit in the designation that gives the performance class. It's been so for like ever. For both Radeon and Geforce. For three-digit numbers as well as four-digit numbers. For surely more than a decade.

So: A Radeon 4-digit gaming card should have an '8' as second digit. That's the norm. But down to '6' is ok for budget, lower performance gaming. '5' and '4' though are intended for other uses. They are not gaming cards.

The earlier 4-digit Geforce cards were the same. At least 8 and 6 corresponded to Radeon 8 and 6 performance. Lower numbers did not. A Geforce card with a '4' as second digit would have much, much lower performance than a Radeon with '4' as second digit. A Geforce X4XX card was definitely NOT for gaming. Radeon confused the issue somewhat because their X4XX cards actually have some relevant 3D performance.

With the new nVidia 3-digit "GTX" numbers, it's still the second digit that gives the performance. But they have shifted somewhat. '6' is now the digit that denotes a gaming graphics card norm.

Modifié par bEVEsthda, 23 octobre 2013 - 10:28 .

[badboy64]

I hope the game will 3d Vision ready when it comes out.

[nihiliste]

I know I probably won't be able to play it on my macbook. Can't even play witcher 2 but luckily the first two DAs were no problem. Maybe in a couple years I can justify getting a new computer.

[sunago]

bEVEsthda wrote...

It's soooo easy. It's the second digit in the designation that gives the performance class. It's been so for like ever. For both Radeon and Geforce. For three-digit numbers as well as four-digit numbers. For surely more than a decade.

So: A Radeon 4-digit gaming card should have an '8' as second digit. That's the norm. But down to '6' is ok for budget, lower performance gaming. '5' and '4' though are intended for other uses. They are not gaming cards.

The earlier 4-digit Geforce cards were the same. At least 8 and 6 corresponded to Radeon 8 and 6 performance. Lower numbers did not. A Geforce card with a '4' as second digit would have much, much lower performance than a Radeon with '4' as second digit. A Geforce X4XX card was definitely NOT for gaming. Radeon confused the issue somewhat because their X4XX cards actually have some relevant 3D performance.

With the new nVidia 3-digit "GTX" numbers, it's still the second digit that gives the performance. But they have shifted somewhat. '6' is now the digit that denotes a gaming graphics card norm.

thanks sooo much for the extra info. You explain it pretty well, this at least I can understand. I don't know much about stuff like this but even this is easy to get for me. Thank you!

[bEVEsthda]

sunago wrote...

bEVEsthda wrote...

It's soooo easy. It's the second digit in the designation that gives the performance class. It's been so for like ever. For both Radeon and Geforce. For three-digit numbers as well as four-digit numbers. For surely more than a decade.

So: A Radeon 4-digit gaming card should have an '8' as second digit. That's the norm. But down to '6' is ok for budget, lower performance gaming. '5' and '4' though are intended for other uses. They are not gaming cards.

The earlier 4-digit Geforce cards were the same. At least 8 and 6 corresponded to Radeon 8 and 6 performance. Lower numbers did not. A Geforce card with a '4' as second digit would have much, much lower performance than a Radeon with '4' as second digit. A Geforce X4XX card was definitely NOT for gaming. Radeon confused the issue somewhat because their X4XX cards actually have some relevant 3D performance.

With the new nVidia 3-digit "GTX" numbers, it's still the second digit that gives the performance. But they have shifted somewhat. '6' is now the digit that denotes a gaming graphics card norm.

thanks sooo much for the extra info. You explain it pretty well, this at least I can understand. I don't know much about stuff like this but even this is easy to get for me. Thank you!

Just a heads'up. Radeon intends to change their designations. The new will be like R'?'   XXX.  Here, my notion is that it will be the digit immediately after the 'R' that gives the performance class. Then follows a 3-digit number that means whatever. We'll learn more later, I assume.  Poor idea though. But marketing dudes will be marketing dudes, I suppose.

[MissCurlsbel]

Qistina wrote...

Damn....who bring the idea of using Frosbite 3?

I want to assassinate him....

C'mon Qistina, surely you can't be serious about this?!

Frostbite 3 is a technological marvel, you can't expect a company such as Bioware to keep developing games on old engines! We all should encourage development and enhancement of game engines such as this, we can't live in the past forever... IMO, if that means a bit more of sacrifice to keep upgrading my tower to accomodate these enhancements, so be it.

Whatever helps to keep improving the industry, no matter how small a contribution! 

[whogotsalami]

I've heard that if you can run DAO and DA2 on good settings, DAI shouldn't be a problem.

Anyway here's my spec:
Windows 7 64-bit
Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD4
Kingston HyperX 2x4GB 1600MHz DDR3
Intel Core i3-3220
2xGeForce 9600 GT(a bit oldish, will be looking to upgrade to 2 GB in fall 2014 maybe)

As for the OP, I'm not exactly sure why is this even a question.
I mean Radeon 7970?
i5 4670?
I won't even ask what you need this 2x8 GB of RAM for

Modifié par whogotsalami, 23 octobre 2013 - 11:00 .

[whogotsalami]

Modifié par whogotsalami, 23 octobre 2013 - 11:02 .

[Boycott Bioware]

Allan Schumacher wrote...
This type of commentary should be exercised carefully. It's very unsettling to see a statement like this.

Sorry, it's a joke

MissCurlsbel wrote...
C'mon Qistina, surely you can't be serious about this?!

Frostbite 3 is a technological marvel, you can't expect a company such as Bioware to keep developing games on old engines! We all should encourage development and enhancement of game engines such as this, we can't live in the past forever... IMO, if that means a bit more of sacrifice to keep upgrading my tower to accomodate these enhancements, so be it.

Whatever helps to keep improving the industry, no matter how small a contribution! smilie

I already sacrifice much for Skyrim, i don't want to do that again

It is like when buying a game, i also must buy the hardware...so the game cost is added with hardware cost...it's like there's a conspiracy between game company and hardware company

Maybe it is not a problem for some people...power to them then...but money is not fall from the sky...how much sacrifices i must take just to play a game? Maybe some peoples say hardwares today are cheap...cheap to them...some say better to buy powerful hardwares today you can used them for long...yeah, powerful hardwares are not cheap, and by the time next game coming out they require more powerful hardwares

I buy/assemble a new computer for Skyrim...but Skyrim is a mess....what i get for my sacrifice?

[Taint Master]

Hay guise,

my PC iz reddy fore DAI?

i7-4930K
32GB DDR3-2400MHz
2x GTX 780 Classifieds

[wolfhowwl]

Qistina wrote...
Damn....who bring the idea of using Frosbite 3?

I want to assassinate him....

I did.

Say that to my face not online and see what happens.

[badboy64]

Taint Master wrote...

Hay guise,

my PC iz reddy fore DAI?

i7-4930K
32GB DDR3-2400MHz
2x GTX 780 Classifieds

I nearly have the same system as you but mine is like this.
i7-3930@4.3ghz
16GB DDR3-2133mhz
2x GTX Titan's Sli.
eVga X79 Dark motherboard
Yes yours is more than ready I would think.

[badboy64]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Wow.  The computer I'm using now, which I bought 5.5 years ago, nails those minimum specs just about exactly.

Or it would have, if I hadn't had to replace my 8800GT when it melted (man those things run hot).

*gasp* You use nVidia?

Shuuuuuun...

nvidia must be bad experience for you then since I have owned nvidia video card's for over 10+ years now and not one ati video card during that 10+ years.

[Br3admax]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Wow.  The computer I'm using now, which I bought 5.5 years ago, nails those minimum specs just about exactly.

Or it would have, if I hadn't had to replace my 8800GT when it melted (man those things run hot).

*gasp* You use nVidia?

Shuuuuuun...

Well now, you can always give me the money for me to buy a new one. Just saying. 

Modifié par Br3ad, 24 octobre 2013 - 02:59 .

[MissCurlsbel]

Qistina wrote...

Sorry, it's a joke

And the people you so lightly jest about don't make sacrifices too?

Qistina wrote...

I already sacrifice much for Skyrim, i don't want to do that again

It is like when buying a game, i also must buy the hardware...so the game cost is added with hardware cost...it's like there's a conspiracy between game company and hardware company

Maybe it is not a problem for some people...power to them then...but money is not fall from the sky...how much sacrifices i must take just to play a game? Maybe some peoples say hardwares today are cheap...cheap to them...some say better to buy powerful hardwares today you can used them for long...yeah, powerful hardwares are not cheap, and by the time next game coming out they require more powerful hardwares

I buy/assemble a new computer for Skyrim...but Skyrim is a mess....what i get for my sacrifice?

I know this. More than you surely deserve to know. If you have recently bought up-to-date level gaming hardware, you most likely have absolutely nothing to worry about for running Inquisition. Just because you spent loads of money on hardware doesn't garantee it is any good. $999 for the specs you have is way too much, you've sadly been robbed if you ask me.

4GB RAM, a 32bit system (why are these still being made?!) and a graphics card from the year 2009 (radeon 5000 series started coming out back then anyways, so I my guess has to be close) are not good enough for enjoying the game at its full graphical potential.

If you want to do PC gaming you have to be willing to be minimally be up-to-date with industry standards to be on top of your game. If you can't, I suggest you settle for buying consoles.

No one who knows how to build a good tower for next gen would consider the specs you have (even more so for such ridiculous prices. I suggest you get your money back.

The industry is finally making a leap. Too late, and always held back because people always want the easiest, cheapest solution. You have no idea of how much I loath the fact that devs have to keep toning down what they can show because of old hardware or, because of people with the same thought train you have. We could already be so much more if only people were willing to...

I recognize that there are a lot of flaws about the PC GAMING MASTER RACE kind of thinking. I get that some people just prefer consoles. It is, however, a known fact that because devs have to constrain themselves to really old hardware, they can't evolve as quickly as they wish  (insert "can't teach an old dog, new tricks statement here").

This is, as always, simply my personal opinion on the matter - take it as you will.

[MissCurlsbel]

Taint Master wrote...

Hay guise,

my PC iz reddy fore DAI?

i7-4930K
32GB DDR3-2400MHz
2x GTX 780 Classifieds

I have 2x GTX560 Ti SLI on mine. Was thinking of upgrading to those 780's recently but, I'm thinking of holding out until next year when next gen is full steam. Surely some really nice, shinny new cards will be available by then and I believe the ones I own atm will still be decent enough. 

Also need to double my RAM, 8GB isn't good enough for me anymore

[deuce985]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

dielveio wrote...

Should be.
Take Battlefield 4 as benchmark, if it runs battlefield 4, should run DA: Inquisition too.

This is probably the most reasonable assumption at this time.  Still a ways to go before we'll know for sure

[Boycott Bioware]

MissCurlsbel wrote...
I know this. More than you surely deserve to know. If you have recently bought up-to-date level gaming hardware, you most likely have absolutely nothing to worry about for running Inquisition. Just because you spent loads of money on hardware doesn't garantee it is any good. $999 for the specs you have is way too much, you've sadly been robbed if you ask me.

My country is not computer hardware developer, maybe it's cheaper in your place....that $999 don't include RAM in which i buy from internet and don't include the monitor in which i buy second hand or maybe 5th hand i don't know

I only told the vendor "i want to play Skyrim"...then he take all the hardwares put infront of me, i look at the graphic card i ask "are you sure this can play Skyrim?", he said "Yes!Skyrim can! All can!"...i am just end user, he said that i believe him...he don't lie in anyway, my computer can play Skyrim

4GB RAM, a 32bit system (why are these still being made?!) and a graphics card from the year 2009 (radeon 5000 series started coming out back then anyways, so I my guess has to be close) are not good enough for enjoying the game at its full graphical potential.

I believe the real technology is already being made, but for business they only released the outdated ones, so peoples will keep buying and buying....

[Paul E Dangerously]

MissCurlsbel wrote...

The industry is finally making a leap. Too late, and always held back because people always want the easiest, cheapest solution. You have no idea of how much I loath the fact that devs have to keep toning down what they can show because of old hardware or, because of people with the same thought train you have. We could already be so much more if only people were willing to...

I recognize that there are a lot of flaws about the PC GAMING MASTER RACE kind of thinking. I get that some people just prefer consoles. It is, however, a known fact that because devs have to constrain themselves to really old hardware, they can't evolve as quickly as they wish  (insert "can't teach an old dog, new tricks statement here").

This is, as always, simply my personal opinion on the matter - take it as you will.

No, because there's just not enough profit at aiming for the top end. Also, let me break out my violin to show my sympathy for the problem you and a select few others have.

[Boycott Bioware]

Originally, i only buy the RAM in which i order from internet, but unlucky for me, the motherboard cannot fit it because it is DDR2 gaming RAM...my previous motherboard only can fit DDR1...so i am going to the shop asking to buy motherboard only...but again, all my old hardwares cannot fit in...that's make me buy the whole thing in which $999

And i am surprised that i already being left in the past...my previous harddisk is only 30 GB, the vendor show me 80 GB and the differences, it's smaller...i am shocked at that...how come this small thing be 80 GB? the socket cannot fit the previous motherboard because its different

He also show me the Dual Core processor...i don't know a **** what is Dual Core...is it two processor in one or what? Anyway because the vendor say it's good for gaming, i believe him...

[MissCurlsbel]

Qistina wrote...

(...)

I only told the vendor "i want to play Skyrim"...then he take all the hardwares put infront of me, i look at the graphic card i ask "are you sure this can play Skyrim?", he said "Yes!Skyrim can! All can!"...i am just end user, he said that i believe him...he don't lie in anyway, my computer can play Skyrim

He may not have lied but for the price you got, you have in your possession a very weak system for nowadays (and next gen) standards. If you are going to build a tower - even with help from a store clerk - always know what is hot at the moment. Basically, do your homework before you get to actually buying. There are loads of information on how to make a decent build for low prices from scratch out there, so research research research!

It's not a world wide scam to swindle buyers. In graphics cards terms, new hardware is constantly being released because there are always new improvements being made each day. What we, as consumers, can do to keep our wallets happy, is look out for sales and when the next big leap is about to happen, and act accordingly.

I really wish you the best if you want to continue to venture on PC building. If anything positive can be taken from your experience, is how important it is to be informed. Always keep yourself informed to avoid getting ripped off.

Good luck, Qistina.