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[MissCurlsbel]

Sopa de Gato wrote...

No, because there's just not enough profit at aiming for the top end. Also, let me break out my violin to show my sympathy for the problem you and a select few others have.

Crysis.





Enough said.

[Paul E Dangerously]

MissCurlsbel wrote...

Sopa de Gato wrote...

No, because there's just not enough profit at aiming for the top end. Also, let me break out my violin to show my sympathy for the problem you and a select few others have.

Crysis.





Enough said.

Which is why Crytek's shifting all development to free-to-play within the next five years. So, really?

[MissCurlsbel]

Sopa de Gato wrote...

Which is why Crytek's shifting all development to free-to-play within the next five years. So, really?

They are moving to that market because there are huge amounts of money to be had with that system. There are many free-to-play's that entail a whole system of "Buy this item to improve your character!". Take TF2 and the rivers of money they make just selling HATS, for example.

It's not because of Crysis (this gem has taken up the mantle of "if your PC can run it, it is good". It was a measuring stick for YEARS for all PC gamers who like building their own systems). And I'll be damned if it still doesn't look cool.

EDIT: I thought we were talking graphical capabilities, not business models?

Modifié par MissCurlsbel, 24 octobre 2013 - 03:30 .

[Dave of Canada]

Is my PC ready for Inquisition?

I'm sure nobody's political correctness is ready for Inquisition; prepare yourself to be politically corrected!

EntropicAngel wrote...

Someone doesn't know how to scale their engine for PC, or their port/optimization is abominable).

It's the latter, Ubisoft is terrible at ports.

[Boycott Bioware]

EntropicAngel wrote...
You should study up on this here on the internet. A Dual core is like a car with two engines (bad analogy, but good enough). The car can use one engine for the front wheels, and one engine for the back wheels. Or, it can use one engine and leave the other one alone. Or, it can use both engines for all four wheels--each engine is powering all four wheels. Very very basically.

Use the internet to learn this stuff.

I actually accidentally activated the Dual Core after one year buying this computer...it means for one year it don't use the other "engine"...it is when i realize when start up, the bottom of the screen say "press F4 to activate Dual Core"....i don't realize that for one year....

I am too old for this stuff...

My nephew playing with that flat thing...what you call it? It's like a screen...Nevermnd....

[MissCurlsbel]

EntropicAngel wrote...

I can't say anything for Crysis as I wasn't around for that whole situation, but Watch Dogs received a bit of backlash for their high system specs. And that's from those of us knowing going in that it would be an intensive game (really, 8 gigs of RAM required when the game is on a freaking 360 which has 512 is stupid on every possible level. Someone doesn't know how to scale their engine for PC, or their port/optimization is abominable).

So it's safe to say that it isn't as good a proposition as you would think.

I honestly don't know why anyone would even consider playing it on an older system. It has been widely marketed has a next gen game, I'm guessing Ubi will be getting some easy money from those willing to still invest in older systems. Only time can tell whether the port will be any good or not. I know I won't have that opportunity (thank God...)

[kinderschlager]

Wulfram wrote...

Why does everyone who asks this have a system that's massively better than mine?

[Boycott Bioware]

so..let see, if in the future peoples are using that flat thing my nephew playing with, so the game developer will create games to fit that?

It's all conspiracy...

[Star fury]

kinderschlager wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

Why does everyone who asks this have a system that's massively better than mine?

Except Qistina.

[Fredward]

Star fury wrote...

kinderschlager wrote...

Wulfram wrote...
Why does everyone who asks this have a system that's massively better than mine?

Except Qistina.

And me. My graphics card is shameful. I actually have no idea how I've been playing some of the new releases now. Welp. Better start saving for something that cavemen didn't use for a plate.

[Boycott Bioware]

Star fury wrote...
Except Qistina.

yeah...i need $1500 to play DA:I

[Reznore57]

Qistina wrote...

yeah...i need $1500 to play DA:I

Oo.
Paid mine 400 euro ( 550 dollar US) , like 4 years ago, with window 7 flat screen , mouse keyboard.
The graphic card sucks though but I can play skyrim on medium with no problem (can't say the same for Witcher 2 sadly)

If computers are this pricey where you live , can't you buy it online or something?
Sure shipping might cost a bit , but 1500 euro is a bit crazy .
I mean unless you want the best of the best.

Anyway going to buy a computer too , already saved the money thinking DAI was going to be released earlier.
The hardest part is just waiting , since I'm probably going to find slightly better computers for the same price next year .

[Archaven]

Is this thread turn to a PC bashing thread by console elitist? Lol

[Irx]

Sure shipping might cost a bit , but 1500 euro is a bit crazy .
I mean unless you want the best of the best.

Frankly, 1500 euro is not enough for the best of the best, though it'll certainly get a good gaming pc able to produce 60fps@1080p in modern games for a couple of years.

I recently calculated a gaming pc for friend of mine with a 1950$ budget (chassis only), and it still wasn't enough for cool things like a socket 2012 i7 with a 4-channel ram, a titan or a 2nd 780 in a sli etc.

[Boycott Bioware]

Reznore57 wrote...
Oo.
Paid mine 400 euro ( 550 dollar US) , like 4 years ago, with window 7 flat screen , mouse keyboard.
The graphic card sucks though but I can play skyrim on medium with no problem (can't say the same for Witcher 2 sadly)

If computers are this pricey where you live , can't you buy it online or something?
Sure shipping might cost a bit , but 1500 euro is a bit crazy .
I mean unless you want the best of the best.

Anyway going to buy a computer too , already saved the money thinking DAI was going to be released earlier.
The hardest part is just waiting , since I'm probably going to find slightly better computers for the same price next year ..

I just exaggerate lol

I don't need to buy new computer, just new graphic card if DA:I is heavy...but not sure the 32 bit and 64 bit issue...

Here, buying the whole computer is more expansive than buying parts and assemble them, because of the brand...the so called latest computer may be $2500 and above but the spec is not so great, because of it's brand...these computers usually shown in supermarkets

But, i usually go to the dark side of the town...well...they are "legal" and their business is "legitimate"..."it's all legitimate" like Isabella friend say...my friend always say "these things made in someone backyard"... they can be coerced depends on our coercion skill...you must pass the persuasion check to get good price or backfired

There are however smaller shops, usually combined with cyber cafe, and some stand alone...but their wares are usually limited, hard to find the things you want

Of course i can buy online, like my RAM, i buy online...but there are too many things online, it only show pictures...i like to see the things before buying

[Star fury]

Foopydoopydoo wrote...

Star fury wrote...

kinderschlager wrote...

Wulfram wrote...
Why does everyone who asks this have a system that's massively better than mine?

Except Qistina.

And me. My graphics card is shameful. I actually have no idea how I've been playing some of the new releases now. Welp. Better start saving for something that cavemen didn't use for a plate.

New-gen consoles will force me to upgrade my PC too. PS3 and Exbawks 360 basically had frozen gaming progress, so even a relatively old machine could run almost all released games.

[PnXMarcin1PL]

Topsider wrote...

My PC is starting to show its age in some games, but I always use high settings and anti-aliasing. I'll accept a lower frame rate for improved visuals - not less than 30fps though.

Intel i7-920 (quad core)
6GB RAM
Nvidia GTX 570

Mantle API looks very interesting, and could give AMD a big advantage in certain games (Frostbite 3 engine also).

And you say ur pc is old ?
My Q8200 is still capable of running games at highest details with rates above 30fps. If comes to next gen ur pc will be good not mine.

[Fredvdp]

sunago wrote...

It runs on Windows 7 64-bit by the way if that matters? I have no clue here. If it wasn't for speccy telling me exactly what I have in my computer I wouldn't even know what's in the damn thing apart from the graphics card. Can Anyone help me out?

Edit: Btw, I tried to use the chart that was listed for graphic cards here but I can't make heads or tails of the thing. So before people say I need to check that, I tried and all it did was cause me to scratch my head in confusion. What the hell does the thing mean with 'discrete' and 'mobile' in this case?

64-bit matters a lot. It means your RAM isn't capped at 3.25 GB.

With regards to the difference between discrete and mobile:

Discrete refers to a physical card that can be installed into a desktop computer with a spare PCI-e x16 slot on the motherboard. A mobile chipset is part of the motherboard and can be found in laptops and some desktops (like iMacs). Mobile chipsets are much slower than the desktop versions, so a Radeon HD 6870 performs much better than a Radeon Mobility 6870.

Modifié par Fredvdp, 24 octobre 2013 - 11:52 .

[bEVEsthda]

Qistina wrote...

Reznore57 wrote...
Oo.
Paid mine 400 euro ( 550 dollar US) , like 4 years ago, with window 7 flat screen , mouse keyboard.
The graphic card sucks though but I can play skyrim on medium with no problem (can't say the same for Witcher 2 sadly)

If computers are this pricey where you live , can't you buy it online or something?
Sure shipping might cost a bit , but 1500 euro is a bit crazy .
I mean unless you want the best of the best.

Anyway going to buy a computer too , already saved the money thinking DAI was going to be released earlier.
The hardest part is just waiting , since I'm probably going to find slightly better computers for the same price next year ..

I just exaggerate lol

I don't need to buy new computer, just new graphic card if DA:I is heavy...but not sure the 32 bit and 64 bit issue...

Here, buying the whole computer is more expansive than buying parts and assemble them, because of the brand...the so called latest computer may be $2500 and above but the spec is not so great, because of it's brand...these computers usually shown in supermarkets

But, i usually go to the dark side of the town...well...they are "legal" and their business is "legitimate"..."it's all legitimate" like Isabella friend say...my friend always say "these things made in someone backyard"... they can be coerced depends on our coercion skill...you must pass the persuasion check to get good price or backfired

There are however smaller shops, usually combined with cyber cafe, and some stand alone...but their wares are usually limited, hard to find the things you want

Of course i can buy online, like my RAM, i buy online...but there are too many things online, it only show pictures...i like to see the things before buying

I'm confused.
Building a new desktop PC that will serve you very well with games for like 3 years onward, costs like $800, with licenced Windows. Monitor/keyboard/mouse not included. And that's been pretty static for awhile, I think my last 3 PCs have fallen in roughly that cathegory.

Why this $2500 and above nonsense?    ... - Oh, my G... - you're not buying laptops, are you?

[Boycott Bioware]

bEVEsthda wrote...
Why this $2500 and above nonsense? ... - Oh, my G... - you're not buying laptops, are you?

Well...i live in the land of magic where we communicate with each other using a bowl of water, and everyone could turn into tigers at any time...we don't produce computers, we import them

[sunago]

Fredvdp wrote...

sunago wrote...

It runs on Windows 7 64-bit by the way if that matters? I have no clue here. If it wasn't for speccy telling me exactly what I have in my computer I wouldn't even know what's in the damn thing apart from the graphics card. Can Anyone help me out?

Edit: Btw, I tried to use the chart that was listed for graphic cards here but I can't make heads or tails of the thing. So before people say I need to check that, I tried and all it did was cause me to scratch my head in confusion. What the hell does the thing mean with 'discrete' and 'mobile' in this case?

64-bit matters a lot. It means your RAM isn't capped at 3.25 GB.

With regards to the difference between discrete and mobile:

Discrete refers to a physical card that can be installed into a desktop computer with a spare PCI-e x16 slot on the motherboard. A mobile chipset is part of the motherboard and can be found in laptops and some desktops (like iMacs). Mobile chipsets are much slower than the desktop versions, so a Radeon HD 6870 performs much better than a Radeon Mobility 6870.

I was aware of the difference between 32-bit and 64-bit luckily (yay, I know something at least.) and it was the reason I had to let go of my precious Windows XP. It shall be missed. However I'm also aware that specs on a computer with Windows Vista are slightly different from those with a Windows 7. I was talking about that part. I know Windows 8 is out and has been for a while but I really really loathe that operating system. I don't want to use it because it just looks like a pain to use to me. But...will that make any difference for me with future gaming?

I'm asking because when Vista came out a lot of games had put their spec requirements up and had put two rows in. One for XP users, one for Vista users. And the requirements for those with Vista were usually higher. Now we have Windows 8. To upgrade or not to upgrade....?

Thanks for the explanation between mobile and discreet btw. Learning something new everyday. At least people here are willing to explain things unlike some forums where you just get laughed at. Especially now that I see it's actually a very logical and easy explenation that I really should have seen.

[DaringMoosejaw]

Ugh, no way I'm getting it for PC this time. Just shelled out 260 bucks for a GTX 760 but those BF4 specs are saying my CPU is gettin' old. Got an AMD Phenom II. That means a new motherboard as well, and that's going to be a damned costly overhaul. Gonna wait a year and weigh my options.

[Sylvius the Mad]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Just personal preference, really. I've always been a Radeon fan.

Which is fine, but I have to say those 8800GTs were incredible cards.  Now, 6 years later, they're still cromulent cards (again, assuming they haven't melted).

A card that regularly runs at 80°C is not, perhaps, the best long-term solution, but I was amazed at their performance for the price I paid, and I was amazed at how long it took before games started to strain them.