So in Mass Effect one Sheperd can talk to Kaiden about the biotic school he was taken to and how humans knew next to nothibg about Biotics back then. But Kaiden can't be that much older then Sheperd him/herself. Wouldn't a biotic Sheperd been in the same program as Kaiden?
Question about Sheperd as Biotic and time line?
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Posté 21 octobre 2013 - 11:12
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Kaidan is 7 years older than Shepard, it would have been closed down around the time Shepard would have joined (Kaidan was 17 at the time, making Shepard 10)
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Posté 21 octobre 2013 - 11:23
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Kaidan (b. 2151) is only three years older than Shepard (b. 2154) who is four years older than Ashley (b. 2158).FluffyCannibal wrote...
Kaidan is 7 years older than Shepard
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Posté 21 octobre 2013 - 11:33
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Sorry...could have sworn Kaidan says he's 35 in ME1
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Posté 21 octobre 2013 - 11:54
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Could it be possible that Kaidan's biotic abilities manifested at a younger age than Shepard's?
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Posté 21 octobre 2013 - 03:08
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Shepard's biotic abilities manifest only at the beginning of ME1, when you pick a class... 
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Posté 21 octobre 2013 - 04:58
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Just my opinion but it probably makes more sense for Shepard's biotic abilities to manifest thanks to the Lazarus project and his cybernetic implants.
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Posté 21 octobre 2013 - 05:50
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Shepard's ME1 convos with Kaidan don't make a heck of a lot of sense if Shepard himself is biotic.
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Posté 21 octobre 2013 - 06:39
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killerrabbit1996 wrote...
Could it be possible that Kaidan's biotic abilities manifested at a younger age than Shepard's?
there is a talk page on a website (i think it's the mass effect wiki) where a (former?) Writer for the series states that according to their development codex, shepard was exposed twice to eezo. ONce in utero and again around age 14. this is apparently when their nodes fully formed and sometime after thant is when the abilities manifested.
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Posté 22 octobre 2013 - 07:20
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Kaidan and Shepard's convos make enough sense to me (enough to play with at least). If born on Mindoir, he's an isolated farmer kid. Simple enough to work with. Maybe the abilities only manifested at the last minute, due to stress. If Earthborn, he's a ghetto kid. Earth was known to have it's accidents in that timeline, and a Shepard born in these conditions would be truly under-educated and truly under the radar. Kaidan grew up with much more info. Shep could have been the product of an accident in utero, but if he/she ran with the Reds, the secondary exposure could be explained with the Reds smuggling eezo or Shep dabbling with a lot of Red Sand when younger.
The X-Men sort of come to mind. Shep would be like one of those mutants like Rogue or Nightcrawler, who are a bit lost with the abilities thrust on them (Jack would be more like Wolverine, I guess).
Spacer is harder for me to understand. The other Sheps get a pass for being sort of "primal biotics".. but Spacer Shep would know a little of Alliance history and biotic procedures.
The X-Men sort of come to mind. Shep would be like one of those mutants like Rogue or Nightcrawler, who are a bit lost with the abilities thrust on them (Jack would be more like Wolverine, I guess).
Spacer is harder for me to understand. The other Sheps get a pass for being sort of "primal biotics".. but Spacer Shep would know a little of Alliance history and biotic procedures.
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Posté 22 octobre 2013 - 11:42
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StreetMagic wrote...
Spacer is harder for me to understand. The other Sheps get a pass for being sort of "primal biotics".. but Spacer Shep would know a little of Alliance history and biotic procedures.
Kids weren't just taken from their parents, they went with parental permission. Hannah Shepard could have just told anyone who enquired about Shepard Jr. to get lost, maybe she wanted him to grow up with some kinda degree of normalcy.
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Posté 22 octobre 2013 - 12:06
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Yes, I'd imagine that life would be grand for untrained biotics who have no control whatsoever over their powers.maybe she wanted him to grow up with some kinda degree of normalcy.
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Posté 24 octobre 2013 - 08:07
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If you still have a link to that page, I'd like to see it. That timeline fits very well with the past I've imagined for one of my Earthborn Shepards. It also works for my Colonists to defend themselves with biotics on Mindoir, because the attack happened when they were 16.eyezonlyii wrote...
killerrabbit1996 wrote...
Could it be possible that Kaidan's biotic abilities manifested at a younger age than Shepard's?
there is a talk page on a website (i think it's the mass effect wiki) where a (former?) Writer for the series states that according to their development codex, shepard was exposed twice to eezo. ONce in utero and again around age 14. this is apparently when their nodes fully formed and sometime after thant is when the abilities manifested.
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Posté 24 octobre 2013 - 06:04
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Relevant:
From the wiki
2151 CE
An accident at Singapore International Spaceport exposes hundreds of humans to dust-form element zero. Roughly 30% of the children born in Singapore after element zero exposure suffer from cancerous growths. After his mother is exposed during the accident, Kaidan Alenko is born later that year with biotic potential.
2154 CE
April 11: Shepard is born.
2168 CE
Kaidan Alenko accidentally kills Commander Vyrnnus after being provoked. The diplomatic fallout with the turians results in BAaT being shut down a year later.
Shepard receives secondary exposure to element zero. Permanent biotic inclination manifests.
From the wiki
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Posté 25 octobre 2013 - 03:42
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^ Thanks for the info. 
The year that Shepard was born also lists a "second publicized accident involving the exposure of humans to element zero", but no details like the one given for Kaidan. I wonder if this was done on purpose to account for Shepard's different backgrounds.
Also, "2156 - A small number of human children exposed to element zero exhibit minor telekinetic abilities." Possible connection to Shepard?
The year that Shepard was born also lists a "second publicized accident involving the exposure of humans to element zero", but no details like the one given for Kaidan. I wonder if this was done on purpose to account for Shepard's different backgrounds.
Also, "2156 - A small number of human children exposed to element zero exhibit minor telekinetic abilities." Possible connection to Shepard?
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Posté 25 octobre 2013 - 04:43
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Np. I'm pretty sure that, since no background is specified, all biotic Shepards are exposed to eezo the same year. That said, I like some of the headcanons and fan fic origin stories out there.
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Posté 25 octobre 2013 - 05:08
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Oh, I didn't mean the year. I was thinking about the location. Kaidan's entry said that it happened in Singapore, but Shepard's was just "a second accident" with no extra info given.BlueMoonSeraphim wrote...
Np. I'm pretty sure that, since no background is specified, all biotic Shepards are exposed to eezo the same year. That said, I like some of the headcanons and fan fic origin stories out there.
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Posté 25 octobre 2013 - 12:22
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Yeah, locations for the additional eezo accidents are obscured.. I guess to leave it open where you wanted to be born.
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Posté 25 octobre 2013 - 02:18
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AlexMBrennan wrote...
Yes, I'd imagine that life would be grand for untrained biotics who have no control whatsoever over their powers.maybe she wanted him to grow up with some kinda degree of normalcy.
Doesn't necessarily mean Shepard had no training, just that he/she wasn't shipped off to boarding school to get it.
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Posté 26 octobre 2013 - 05:54
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killerrabbit1996 wrote...
Could it be possible that Kaidan's biotic abilities manifested at a younger age than Shepard's?
Camp 1 accidentlal exposure to eezoo while young or young adults, and those who were exposed while in utero Camp 2.
Both Camps are given Biotic Regulation Mods called, Bio Amps to control and regulate their powers if they should manifest and i assume want to develop their abilities further. I think Kaiden Falls into the first camp.
I wouldn't be surprised if Shepard falls into Camp 2 but is just one of the lucky ones who naturally adepted to Biotics with no drawbacks.
In my own game FemShep is always a Biotic and has the military parents background, Shepard So her training was early on and could have come from one of her parents as well as having access to the latest Biotic Amps on the market which would likely come to the military first before civilizians and thus Shepard has a one up on Kaiden.
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Posté 26 octobre 2013 - 06:05
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AlexMBrennan wrote...
Yes, I'd imagine that life would be grand for untrained biotics who have no control whatsoever over their powers.maybe she wanted him to grow up with some kinda degree of normalcy.
I don't recall all the conversations with Kaiden in ME1 but I never recalled any of them making it sound as if a Biotic Shepard was asking how to control HIS powers or use HIS powers. If there were such questions they were problem aimed at Kaiden and HIS use and control of said powers, being that he likely has a older Biotic AMP that is a hinderance and personal pain to deal with.
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Posté 26 octobre 2013 - 06:54
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animedreamer wrote...
AlexMBrennan wrote...
Yes, I'd imagine that life would be grand for untrained biotics who have no control whatsoever over their powers.maybe she wanted him to grow up with some kinda degree of normalcy.
I don't recall all the conversations with Kaiden in ME1 but I never recalled any of them making it sound as if a Biotic Shepard was asking how to control HIS powers or use HIS powers. If there were such questions they were problem aimed at Kaiden and HIS use and control of said powers, being that he likely has a older Biotic AMP that is a hinderance and personal pain to deal with.
All biotics have to learn. Even Asari are all brought up to control their powers, but they're more natural at it. Shepard has reaped the benefits of later Alliance training unlike Kaidan, but he still had to learn. You're basically triggering electrical responses with your brain to create mass effect fields. That doesn't just happen at will.
A codex snippet if you're interested:
Some races have experimented with biotic drugs to stimulate power instead, such as Red Sand. They must then develop conscious control over their nervous system, which is a long, slow, difficult ordeal (except for the asari, who possess a degree of control naturally). Biofeedback therapy is commonly used to aid in this process. Once trained, a biotic can generate and control dark energy to move objects, generate protective barriers, or restrain enemies. Biotic abilities are activated using a technique called "physical mnemonics", in which the biotic uses a physical gesture to cause neurons to fire in a certain sequence, sending an electrical charge through
their eezo nodules and creating the desired effect. A biotic may enhance certain aspects of his or her biotic abilities by installing implant upgrades called bio-amps.
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Posté 27 octobre 2013 - 04:16
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Posté 28 octobre 2013 - 05:15
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It's Technology ..
Even 2 years in technological terms become "Back then.." due to the fact that technology advances so fast. So Shepard being 3 years older than Kaidan only serves more to the point.
Even 2 years in technological terms become "Back then.." due to the fact that technology advances so fast. So Shepard being 3 years older than Kaidan only serves more to the point.
