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[HiroVoid]

Br3ad wrote...

Why are we trying to find reasons to kill people? Why are we asking the writers to make reasons for us to kill people? I honestly want to know.

Because some people don't like certain characters and woul like the opportunity to have a reason to kill them?

[Killdren88]

HiroVoid wrote...

Killdren88 wrote...

Hazegurl wrote...

My male noble warden romanced her and went into the mirror. He did it knowing she used him but he used her as well. I like to think of them as two adorable bastards who sort of maybe love each other but neither are too willing to totally admit it.

My female warden didn't totally get along with her but thanked her and had no desire to look for her. She just wanted her and Alistair to live.

I don't get why people think Morrigan betrayed them. She pretty much tells you what she plans to do.

Anything to justify it I suppose. She saves our butt and people call it a betrayal.

If you don't do the Dark Ritual, she technically never saves you.

Thats just it she can't save you with out getting preggers. The WArden has no one to blame but themselves if they lost Their life or Alistairs life. So you can't call Morrigan out for that.

Modifié par Killdren88, 28 novembre 2013 - 05:14 .

[David Gaider]

Ryzaki wrote...
Can we at least not get forced companions that are blatantly against our PC's goals? I miss being able to dismiss almost everyone in DAO.

That's a little different. I think most of the party members in DAI are optional or dismissable--if not all. For other characters, or party members that aren't, it really depends on whether the story offers an alternate route around their death. Sometimes we'll endeavour to put that in, if we feel allowing for their death adds something worthwhile--but we don't feel it always is, particularly if the amount of work required to provide an alternate path in the story is enormous in comparison. Naturally, the mileage of a particular fan on that account is going to vary, especially when it comes to things they believe are worthy of summary execution.

Modifié par David Gaider, 28 novembre 2013 - 05:16 .

[HiroVoid]

Killdren88 wrote...

HiroVoid wrote...

Killdren88 wrote...

Hazegurl wrote...

My male noble warden romanced her and went into the mirror. He did it knowing she used him but he used her as well. I like to think of them as two adorable bastards who sort of maybe love each other but neither are too willing to totally admit it.

My female warden didn't totally get along with her but thanked her and had no desire to look for her. She just wanted her and Alistair to live.

I don't get why people think Morrigan betrayed them. She pretty much tells you what she plans to do.

Anything to justify it I suppose. She saves our butt and people call it a betrayal.

If you don't do the Dark Ritual, she technically never saves you.

Thats just it she can't save you with out getting preggers. The WArden has no one to blame but themselves if they lost Their life or Alistairs life. So you can't call Morrigan out for that.

Or Loghains life.

Might not have been around for it, but I don't know if I've heard someone blame Morrigan for someone dying per' se.  It's usually just for using them, holding out for info, leaving, etc.

[Reznore57]

Br3ad wrote...

Why are we trying to find reasons to kill people?
Why are we asking the writers to make reasons for us to kill people? I
honestly want to know. 

Well we kill a lot of things , I kinda enjoy having some reasons...beyond well my pc has a huge sword and (s)he was feeling a bit bloodthirsty that day.

Modifié par Reznore57, 28 novembre 2013 - 05:18 .

[AlexanderCousland]

All the companions I dont like Must Die or be left at camp. That is All.

[HiroVoid]

Reznore57 wrote...

Well we kill a lot of things , I kinda enjoy having some reasons...beyond well my pc has a huge sword and (s)he was feeling a bit bloodthirsty that day.

Gotta let out that stress somehow.....even if the result is turning into a pincushion for arrows.  I personally liked that aspect of Witcher 2 if you randomly killed a guard.

[Angrywolves]

Some players like killing. It's part of their pathology /psychology.
The game allows it at times as part of combat and special situations such as sacred ashes defilement, Genetivi, and the murder knife stuff. Bioware can put it in or take it out.
I prefer roleplaying not killing but some players feel otherwise.
shrugs.

[Br3admax]

HiroVoid wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Why are we trying to find reasons to kill people? Why are we asking the writers to make reasons for us to kill people? I honestly want to know.

Because some people don't like certain characters and woul like the opportunity to have a reason to kill them?

No. What I mean is: When you don't like certian people, characters, why must killing be the answer to it? If killing something is your preferred solution to something that annoys you, then all the power to you. 

Modifié par Br3ad, 28 novembre 2013 - 05:24 .

[Killdren88]

HiroVoid wrote...

Or Loghains life.

Might not have been around for it, but I don't know if I've heard someone blame Morrigan for someone dying per' se.  It's usually just for using them, holding out for info, leaving, etc.

Loghain is always dead at the end of my playthroughs. He is an idiot for letting Nationalism get in the way of what needed to be done.

[TheKomandorShepard]

HiroVoid wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

Hazegurl wrote...

My male noble warden romanced her and went into the mirror. He did it knowing she used him but he used her as well. I like to think of them as two adorable bastards who sort of maybe love each other but neither are too willing to totally admit it.

My female warden didn't totally get along with her but thanked her and had no desire to look for her. She just wanted her and Alistair to live.

I don't get why people think Morrigan betrayed them. She pretty much tells you what she plans to do.

Because she decided go into my command and be member of the team which goal was put down archdemon and end blight when we refuse being her puppet then she run away betraying leader and friend or lover if have something more with her. 

She's a volunteer.  She doesn't actually have any obligation to stay around.

So what she decided join to me if you join the army there is no im volunteer i m get out of here see ya it still desertion she joined to my party where i command so she need shut her mouth and listen to me if she don't like it she shouldn't join to me. Of course im not loyal person and not that i wouldn't betray someone but still she betrayed us.

Modifié par TheKomandorShepard, 28 novembre 2013 - 05:23 .

[Killdren88]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

HiroVoid wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

Hazegurl wrote...

My male noble warden romanced her and went into the mirror. He did it knowing she used him but he used her as well. I like to think of them as two adorable bastards who sort of maybe love each other but neither are too willing to totally admit it.

My female warden didn't totally get along with her but thanked her and had no desire to look for her. She just wanted her and Alistair to live.

I don't get why people think Morrigan betrayed them. She pretty much tells you what she plans to do.

Because she decided go into my command and be member of the team which goal was put down archdemon and end blight when we refuse being her puppet then she run away betraying leader and friend or lover if have something more with her. 

She's a volunteer.  She doesn't actually have any obligation to stay around.

So what she decided join to me if you join the army there is no im volunteer i m get out of here see ya it still desertion she joined to my party where i command so she need shut her mouth and listen to me if she don't like it she shouldn't join to me. Of course im not loyal person and not that i wouldn't betray someone but still she betrayed us.

She wasn't a Grey Warden. You had no authority over her. She went with us because her mother told her to for the whole OGB if she didn't get what was sent for why stay?

[HiroVoid]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

HiroVoid wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Why are we trying to find reasons to kill people? Why are we asking the writers to make reasons for us to kill people? I honestly want to know.

Because some people don't like certain characters and woul like the opportunity to have a reason to kill them?

No. What I mean is: When you don't like certian people, character,s why must killing be the answer to it? If killing something is your preferred solution to something that annoys you, then all the power to you. 

I guess it is true that in video games killing people is pretty much the surefire 100% way to make sure you never see a character again.

What about video games that involve time travel?

[Muspade]

I suppose i just enjoy being humane and not kill everything i don't like.

Even unlikeable characters add something.

[Dave of Canada]

David Gaider wrote...

Naturally, the mileage of a particular fan on that account is going to vary, especially when it comes to things they believe are worthy of summary execution.

It was rather off that while playing a pro-Templar protagonist, I'm forced to go into a Chantry and kill all the Templar because Anders told me to so I'd have him join my group of merry men without much say into it. There was an offer to tell Anders to go away in Act 2, why couldn't it have existed in Act 1?

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 28 novembre 2013 - 05:32 .

[TheKomandorShepard]

Killdren88 wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

HiroVoid wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

Hazegurl wrote...

My male noble warden romanced her and went into the mirror. He did it knowing she used him but he used her as well. I like to think of them as two adorable bastards who sort of maybe love each other but neither are too willing to totally admit it.

My female warden didn't totally get along with her but thanked her and had no desire to look for her. She just wanted her and Alistair to live.

I don't get why people think Morrigan betrayed them. She pretty much tells you what she plans to do.

Because she decided go into my command and be member of the team which goal was put down archdemon and end blight when we refuse being her puppet then she run away betraying leader and friend or lover if have something more with her. 

She's a volunteer.  She doesn't actually have any obligation to stay around.

So what she decided join to me if you join the army there is no im volunteer i m get out of here see ya it still desertion she joined to my party where i command so she need shut her mouth and listen to me if she don't like it she shouldn't join to me. Of course im not loyal person and not that i wouldn't betray someone but still she betrayed us.

She wasn't a Grey Warden. You had no authority over her. She went with us because her mother told her to for the whole OGB if she didn't get what was sent for why stay?

So what she joined to my party and im leader i have authority over her and to betray you don't be be bond only by law so...

[HiroVoid]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...
So what she joined to my party and im leader i have authority over her and to betray you don't be be bond only by law so...

I suppose you should have laid it out to her before she joined.

Modifié par HiroVoid, 28 novembre 2013 - 05:38 .

[Br3admax]

How exactly does she betray you again? I never heard her swear allegiance you, nor have I heard her make any promises. Sorry she didn't follow the assumptions never told to her.

[TheKomandorShepard]

HiroVoid wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...
So what she joined to my party and im leader i have authority over her and to betray you don't be be bond only by law so...

I suppose you should have laid it out to her before she joined.

Well i asumed that warded did that to their peoples off-screen becuase warden sets in camp everything and commanding everyone giving them orders.

Br3ad wrote...

How exactly does she betray you again? I
never heard her swear allegiance you, nor have I heard her make any
promises. Sorry she didn't follow the assumptions never told to her.

And that she joined you and if you join to someone and then backstab that person it is still betrayal for example you can betray friend and you didn't swear or make promises god like to child...

Modifié par TheKomandorShepard, 28 novembre 2013 - 05:45 .

[Hazegurl]

HiroVoid wrote...

Hazegurl wrote...

My male noble warden romanced her and went into the mirror. He did it knowing she used him but he used her as well. I like to think of them as two adorable bastards who sort of maybe love each other but neither are too willing to totally admit it.

My female warden didn't totally get along with her but thanked her and had no desire to look for her. She just wanted her and Alistair to live.

I don't get why people think Morrigan betrayed them. She pretty much tells you what she plans to do.

Eh.  There are several arguments people could make.  She leaves anyone in a romance until Witch Hunt though she tries to have a non-serious relationship in the first place.  She leaves the battlefield if you don't do what she wants, but I don't see that as bad as most of the Warden's companions are volunteers.  The only one I would say is a betrayal is Alistair since being a Grey Warden, it's technically his duty to fight in a blight which is what generations of wardens try to prepare for.

I agree about Alistair, he's the only one I would say betrayed the Warden if he doesn't get what he wants. Morrigan is under no obligation to fight and die for the Warden. She's no Grey Warden. I understood that she was going to leave, as she states she would. My Warden told her he would find her, as he did. If her leaving my romanced warden is a betrayal (according to some posters) then he also betrayed her by searching for her even though she didn't want that. This is why I love the relationship between Morrigan and my Warden. They both did whatever they wanted in the end and both were honest with each other about their intent.

[Killdren88]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

HiroVoid wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...
So what she joined to my party and im leader i have authority over her and to betray you don't be be bond only by law so...

I suppose you should have laid it out to her before she joined.

Well i asumed that warded did that to their peoples off-screen becuase warden sets in camp everything and commanding everyone giving them orders.

Br3ad wrote...

How exactly does she betray you again? I
never heard her swear allegiance you, nor have I heard her make any
promises. Sorry she didn't follow the assumptions never told to her.

And that she joined you and if you join to someone and then backstab that person it is still betrayal for example you can betray friend and you didn't swear or make promises god like to child...

And so she has to die for that?

[LupoCarlos]

no matter the motive. Morrigan doesn't die.

[Dave of Canada]

Her best (and only?) friend stabbed her in the gut.

She's probably going to be pissed.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 28 novembre 2013 - 05:52 .