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#126
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eat da homeless wrote...

Most characters only have two good powers anyway, besides i like being able to LOL in front of a geth pyros face.


Whut?

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Miniditka77 wrote...

NT is kind of right - you don't really need fitness at all if you use Cyclonics.  Because of this, I think Cyclonics are one of the most poorly balanced things on the game.  Every other mod out there merely supplements the skill trees.  Cyclonics can effectively replace an entire skill tree, and that's unfortunate.  Cyclonics I-IV should grant 10-30-50-70% shields instead of what they do now.  Force players to make a choice between damage and survivability.


You are both on the money. Cyclonics are a game changer . The GI for instance has relatively  low health and sheilds
-which is a trade off on his offensive powers. Put on a Cyclonic 4 and he has the same survivability as the caster
 kits with full fitness.
Playing a Sentinel and most of the soldiers with a Cyclonic 4 is pure indulgence. Only the Drells have little to gain from Cyclonics because of their low sheilds.
I have seen plenty of builds posted on BSN advocating no fitness or only 3 points in fitness but there is almost always a Cyclonic 4 included in the set up.

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I'm not even gold level anymore. How about silver?

#129
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Dey should make fitness real fitness, so if u unfit u go outa breath an da banshee fuk u

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NuclearTech76 wrote...

Yep, I said it.

Fitness is only decent
1)if there is no other better power options.
2)if used for melee.
3)if you have a class designed entirely around being a tank, like the Juggernaut. Which most juggernauts suck anyways so I guess it still sucks.
4)if the fitness tree gives you something else in return like movement speed.

Spec your powers, get a cylconic crutch on and destroy some aliens/robots/insects/scrubs.


Nope I disagree fitness isn't decent for anything :P
A Cyclonic IV solves all no fitness builds :wizard:

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agreed.

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Leland Gaunt wrote...

eat da homeless wrote...

Most characters only have two good powers anyway, besides i like being able to LOL in front of a geth pyros face.


Whut?


Anything with tactical cloak doesnt count in my opinion (cloak keeps you alive). Skip Lashes, Slashes, Carnage, Drones, Pull and Sabatoge then we are left with things like the paladin who only needs 4 ranks in fitness to have max bulk, Geth Trooper who can do without Hunter Mode and human adepts who can live without singularity.

looking at the character list i guess the krogan shaman and the N7 demolisher want all 3 powers maxed. Still very few

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eat da homeless wrote...

Leland Gaunt wrote...

eat da homeless wrote...

Most characters only have two good powers anyway, besides i like being able to LOL in front of a geth pyros face.


Whut?


Anything with tactical cloak doesnt count in my opinion (cloak keeps you alive).Skip Lashes, Slashes, Carnage, Drones, Pull and Sabatoge then we are left with things like the paladin who only needs 4 ranks in fitness to have max bulk, Geth Trooper who can do without Hunter Mode and human adepts who can live without singularity.

looking at the character list i guess the krogan shaman and the N7 demolisher want all 3 powers maxed. Still very few


There's so much wrong with that statement, I don't even know where to begin.

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eat da homeless wrote...

Leland Gaunt wrote...

eat da homeless wrote...

Most characters only have two good powers anyway, besides i like being able to LOL in front of a geth pyros face.


Whut?


Anything with tactical cloak doesnt count in my opinion (cloak keeps you alive). Skip Lashes, Slashes, Carnage, Drones, Pull and Sabatoge then we are left with things like the paladin who only needs 4 ranks in fitness to have max bulk, Geth Trooper who can do without Hunter Mode and human adepts who can live without singularity.

looking at the character list i guess the krogan shaman and the N7 demolisher want all 3 powers maxed. Still very few


Lol on the singularity  in particular

#135
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Dont get me wrong i know singularity mass primes and all but i tend to dislike it (doesnt pick up armored enemies) one can skip it for warp and shockwave to get super charged explosions. Thats just my opinion if you like it go ahead and use it

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Leland Gaunt wrote...

There's so much wrong with that statement, I don't even know where to begin.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA agreed! :lol:

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eat da homeless wrote...

Dont get me wrong i know singularity mass primes and all but i tend to dislike it (doesnt pick up armored enemies) one can skip it for warp and shockwave to get super charged explosions. Thats just my opinion if you like it go ahead and use it


Forget hipster... thats some new herpderpster build right there

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IamZAE wrote...

eat da homeless wrote...

Dont get me wrong i know singularity mass primes and all but i tend to dislike it (doesnt pick up armored enemies) one can skip it for warp and shockwave to get super charged explosions. Thats just my opinion if you like it go ahead and use it


Forget hipster... thats some new herpderpster build right there


Can someone explain what I'm missing from skipping singularity (mass priming/phantom control?). I don't see it, maybe i'll spec the other base adept to try it again.

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eat da homeless wrote...

IamZAE wrote...

eat da homeless wrote...

Dont get me wrong i know singularity mass primes and all but i tend to dislike it (doesnt pick up armored enemies) one can skip it for warp and shockwave to get super charged explosions. Thats just my opinion if you like it go ahead and use it


Forget hipster... thats some new herpderpster build right there


Can someone explain what I'm missing from skipping singularity (mass priming/phantom control?). I don't see it, maybe i'll spec the other base adept to try it again.


Ur missing up to 2000 total health because u might aswell play the krogan shaman

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eat da homeless wrote...

Dont get me wrong i know singularity mass primes and all but i tend to dislike it (doesnt pick up armored enemies) one can skip it for warp and shockwave to get super charged explosions. Thats just my opinion if you like it go ahead and use it


You should have played with singularity in the old days, it sucked sooooo hard back then :P

Now it is awesome, so don't you skip it unless you want to hear "L2P scrub or get back to Bronze"!

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When you say 2000 health do you mean the DOT of singularity? If so how do you spec it, im pretty sure i go for minimal time/max damage

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eat da homeless wrote...

When you say 2000 health do you mean the DOT of singularity? If so how do you spec it, im pretty sure i go for minimal time/max damage


No, he mean that the Krogan Shaman has more health than the Human Adept thus if you don't pick singularity you might as well just go and play with the Krogan instead and have more benefits.

L2P and learn to read!

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dumdum2 wrote...

eat da homeless wrote...

When you say 2000 health do you mean the DOT of singularity? If so how do you spec it, im pretty sure i go for minimal time/max damage


No, he mean that the Krogan Shaman has more health than the Human Adept thus if you don't pick singularity you might as well just go and play with the Krogan instead and have more benefits.

L2P and learn to read!


Thank you for enlightening me. I shall try singularity and play the krogan when ever i feel like messing up the snipers on my team with shockwave WABA WABA WABA

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I reall am envious of you guys who apparently have a never ending supply of Cyclonic IV.

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OniGanon wrote...

I reall am envious of you guys who apparently have a never ending supply of Cyclonic IV.


Who are you talking about? Most of us play without fitness and without cylonics on most classes.

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Jeez I gotta join forces with dumdum to ed-ja-macate da nuubs.

BSN is full of surprises

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dumdum2 wrote...

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I always like to take the first 2 ranks in fitness, I never go without at least 2 ranks. Full fitness on drell adept and vanguard (movement speed), juggernaut, destroyer, krogan vanguard, and possibly a few more. At the end of the day, on most characters, the main thing that makes a difference to survivability is using a cyclonic 3 or 4, rather than how many points you have in fitness.


We must get some duos going soon! Do you have any lvl 20 characters or are you still promoting?


Lvl 20? What?

I'm pretty sure I haven't played that since SP.

#148
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Jeez I gotta join forces with dumdum to ed-ja-macate da nuubs.

BSN is full of surprises


Big Mommy Zae and dumdum2, I like the sound of that!

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OniGanon wrote...

I reall am envious of you guys who apparently have a never ending supply of Cyclonic IV.


I propose a heist to break Leland Gaunt's bank! Image IPB

(only joking, bro! Image IPB).

Either use adrenaline mods or just stick to cover and not be stupid/reckless. BW doesn't teach brain surgery or rocket science.

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AustereLemur799 wrote...

dumdum2 wrote...

XFG-65 wrote...

I always like to take the first 2 ranks in fitness, I never go without at least 2 ranks. Full fitness on drell adept and vanguard (movement speed), juggernaut, destroyer, krogan vanguard, and possibly a few more. At the end of the day, on most characters, the main thing that makes a difference to survivability is using a cyclonic 3 or 4, rather than how many points you have in fitness.


We must get some duos going soon! Do you have any lvl 20 characters or are you still promoting?


Lvl 20? What?

I'm pretty sure I haven't played that since SP.


What? You also promote like an idiot for N7 rank? :mellow: