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[LOLandStuff]

Did you even bother reading what I wrote?

[LOLandStuff]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

LOLandStuff wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Look at that guy in the screenshot crusading with his mighty sword by ignoring his duties and protecting the villagers. Look at him! He reeks of nastiness.

Keep in mind that the templars left with the Chantry priests before all the villagers did, such as Hawke.

There was a horde of darkspawn coming their way. Standing there and protecting the whole village because some wouldn't budge is suicidal. If some villagers decided to stay instead of following the Chantry and templars, it's their own fault.

well thats same can be told about elthina...

Elthina didn't know someone planted a bomb inside the Chantry. You didn't know Anders would blow up the place.

[Boycott Bioware]

The Templar don't even bother about the bandits...the dead Templar on the road is Ser Henric, he's Ser Donal friend, just arrived from Denerim, he's not Lothering Templar

So what Ser Bryant said "we now protecting the innocent" is BS, the Templars just protecting the Chantry priests and the Chantry

Edit : That's why there's a job to kill bandits on the Chanter board

Modifié par Qistina, 28 octobre 2013 - 01:19 .

[Xilizhra]

LOLandStuff wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Look at that guy in the screenshot crusading with his mighty sword by ignoring his duties and protecting the villagers. Look at him! He reeks of nastiness.

Keep in mind that the templars left with the Chantry priests before all the villagers did, such as Hawke.

There was a horde of darkspawn coming their way. Standing there and protecting the whole village because some wouldn't budge is suicidal. If some villagers decided to stay instead of following the Chantry and templars, it's their own fault.

Wouldn't budge, couldn't budge, possibly couldn't leave on time for other reasons? Who knows? We never will.

[Johnny_TYS38]

LOLandStuff wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

LOLandStuff wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Look at that guy in the screenshot crusading with his mighty sword by ignoring his duties and protecting the villagers. Look at him! He reeks of nastiness.

Keep in mind that the templars left with the Chantry priests before all the villagers did, such as Hawke.

There was a horde of darkspawn coming their way. Standing there and protecting the whole village because some wouldn't budge is suicidal. If some villagers decided to stay instead of following the Chantry and templars, it's their own fault.

well thats same can be told about elthina...

Elthina didn't know someone planted a bomb inside the Chantry. You didn't know Anders would blow up the place.

She did said that she was the grand cleric and no one could hurt her. 

[Jaison1986]

Those villagers weren't very smart anyway. When you arrive, they already get the word that Ostagar fell, and yet, you don't really see any of them running north despite the oncoming darkspawn.

[TheKomandorShepard]

LOLandStuff wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

LOLandStuff wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Look at that guy in the screenshot crusading with his mighty sword by ignoring his duties and protecting the villagers. Look at him! He reeks of nastiness.

Keep in mind that the templars left with the Chantry priests before all the villagers did, such as Hawke.

There was a horde of darkspawn coming their way. Standing there and protecting the whole village because some wouldn't budge is suicidal. If some villagers decided to stay instead of following the Chantry and templars, it's their own fault.

well thats same can be told about elthina...

Elthina didn't know someone planted a bomb inside the Chantry. You didn't know Anders would blow up the place.

she was warden by leliana , sebastian ,divine , hawke but she was thinking that she is important and untouchable she died for her stupidity.

Modifié par TheKomandorShepard, 28 octobre 2013 - 01:23 .

[Xilizhra]

She did said that she was the grand cleric and no one could hurt her.

Which is possibly the dumbest thing she's ever said. People in power always have more people wanting to do them harm, not fewer.

[LOLandStuff]

You just choose parts of the quest that suit you and ignore the rest.

They said they chased them away several times. The last time they did, that dead templar wasn't even there else they'd have taken serious measures against the bandits. No one else died because of the bandits but one templar who happened to be laying on the ground when you arrived.

[EmperorSahlertz]

Xilizhra wrote...

Look at that guy in the screenshot crusading with his mighty sword by ignoring his duties and protecting the villagers. Look at him! He reeks of nastiness.

Keep in mind that the templars left with the Chantry priests before all the villagers did, such as Hawke.

Witch Hunt explicitly states that the Templars were the only military force that remained behind, and that many of the Templars remained in Lothering and held of the Darkspawn, while the villagers attempted to escape.

[LOLandStuff]

Pretty sure she was expecting an assassination and not blown up to bits or nothing by the looks of it.

[Boycott Bioware]

Gregoir, the knight commander who promise aid, just simply "tai chi" it to the Mages...come on, the Mages just going through a great ordeal and tortured, not only abandoned by the Templars who supposed to protect them but also about to get anulled, facing demons, blood mages rebel and abomination Uldred...Gregoir just, "oh, now the tower is safe, you want my help? I can't, ask the Mages, they can help you..."

Gregoir reluctant to help the warden even if you annulled the tower, he help only because he owe the Warden

Modifié par Qistina, 28 octobre 2013 - 01:29 .

[Lotion Soronarr]

Qistina wrote...
No they don't, they are not the elite police force, they are the agent of religious organization, their job is to protect the Chantry and to execute Chantry policy



They need to be disbanded because their existence itself is religious bias. Not everyone are Andrasterians, Templar function is to spread the religion with sword

Their job (in this case) is to protect the Chantry (the building) and the people in it and the village. Also all mundanes. And to an extent mages.


Not everyone is Adrastian? So what? The dangers of magic do not recogninze borders. In Andrastian lands rules andrastian laws. Submit or GFTO.
Just like...oh.. EVERYWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD.


And how the hell can an exstance of a police force itself be "religious bias"?

[Lotion Soronarr]

Jaison1986 wrote...
Exactly. The templars will never work. They are Lyrium addicts that are fed on the chantry paranoia that mages should be kept on an tight leach with no freedom whatsoever. What king Alistair suggested was best. Create an circle tower with no ties to the Chantry, and the mages would be watched over by knights sent by the kingdom.

In other words, turn the circles into personal weapons of the king, used for their pety wars and feuds, with no higher oversight or no one to answer to?

[Xilizhra]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Look at that guy in the screenshot crusading with his mighty sword by ignoring his duties and protecting the villagers. Look at him! He reeks of nastiness.

Keep in mind that the templars left with the Chantry priests before all the villagers did, such as Hawke.

Witch Hunt explicitly states that the Templars were the only military force that remained behind, and that many of the Templars remained in Lothering and held of the Darkspawn, while the villagers attempted to escape.

Contradicted by the later canon of Dragon Age 2. Call it a retcon if you will.

[LOLandStuff]

Greagoir letting mages outside the Circle to help against the Blight? The nerve!

[Lotion Soronarr]

Qistina wrote...

The Templar don't even bother about the bandits...the dead Templar on the road is Ser Henric, he's Ser Donal friend, just arrived from Denerim, he's not Lothering Templar

So what Ser Bryant said "we now protecting the innocent" is BS, the Templars just protecting the Chantry priests and the Chantry

Edit : That's why there's a job to kill bandits on the Chanter board

The job is there because the bandits run away every time they see the templars approaching.
And the templars have their hands full with keeping peace and order inside the villlage.

There is only one source of BS on this thread... look into the mirror and open your mouth to find out what it is.

[Boycott Bioware]

Greagoir letting mages outside the Circle to help against the Blight? The nerve!

it is because his job is to PROTECT THE CHANTRY, hunt "illegal Mages" and watch the Mages in the Circle

Surely Templar is at Denerim in final battle but Templars do nothing, they only watch Mages

[Jaison1986]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Jaison1986 wrote...
Exactly. The templars will never work. They are Lyrium addicts that are fed on the chantry paranoia that mages should be kept on an tight leach with no freedom whatsoever. What king Alistair suggested was best. Create an circle tower with no ties to the Chantry, and the mages would be watched over by knights sent by the kingdom.

In other words, turn the circles into personal weapons of the king, used for their pety wars and feuds, with no higher oversight or no one to answer to?

Ohoho, you make it sound like it's better then the system the Chantry inflicts. Let's face it. You are just too afraid to try new ideas because you fear they might actually work, right?

[Boycott Bioware]

This is the end of a Templar, heavily brain damaged. It is because they are unholy, they are man made, they are not the product of nature, the Maker don't make them, they are the product of a corrupt religious political organization.

How this guy is useful for the society? How this person want to provide his family? His life is ruin, that what happen to drug addict

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Jaison1986 wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Jaison1986 wrote...
Exactly. The templars will never work. They are Lyrium addicts that are fed on the chantry paranoia that mages should be kept on an tight leach with no freedom whatsoever. What king Alistair suggested was best. Create an circle tower with no ties to the Chantry, and the mages would be watched over by knights sent by the kingdom.

In other words, turn the circles into personal weapons of the king, used for their pety wars and feuds, with no higher oversight or no one to answer to?

Ohoho, you make it sound like it's better then the system the Chantry inflicts. Let's face it. You are just too afraid to try new ideas because you fear they might actually work, right?

Like creating a police force as harsh as those belong to communists and fascists? Still doesn't completely work for mages and bandits hides on the road and forest? What about sending flowers, bunnies and rainbows to the bandits or mages, so they don't do bad works?! Well using guarding golems on the road might work, but still it's my idea not yours.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Xilizhra wrote...
Contradicted by the later canon of Dragon Age 2. Call it a retcon if you will.

Contradicted exactly where?

Because the Hawkes, who stayed behind, don't contradict templars buying time or protecting the vilalge after all other forces left.

[Boycott Bioware]

I think that is enough to show that Templar must be disbanded, their role is only to serve the Chantry, they will be wasted after being used

While a Mage can serve the society in many ways, becoming healers, engineers, and surely magic have many uses, "magic exist to SERVE MEN", so Mages even when old, they can serve the society with their magic

But Templars...they are NOTHING but drug addicts, and i believe they will do anything to get their drug...their mind is twisted and they will be harmful to the society

All that happen is symptom of the corrupt system run by the Chantry, if there is no Chantry and it's Circle, things will turn out differently. Maybe even better

So, there is no middle ground here, the world must change, from old order...to New World Order...heheh

[Xilizhra]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...
Contradicted by the later canon of Dragon Age 2. Call it a retcon if you will.

Contradicted exactly where?

Because the Hawkes, who stayed behind, don't contradict templars buying time or protecting the vilalge after all other forces left.

"A strange time to be hunting apostates. His fellows left with the Chantry priests."

The templars left before Hawke did, in addition to being before many other villagers did, as shown in the "many innocents were slaughtered " line of the prologue.

[EmperorSahlertz]

Xilizhra wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Look at that guy in the screenshot crusading with his mighty sword by ignoring his duties and protecting the villagers. Look at him! He reeks of nastiness.

Keep in mind that the templars left with the Chantry priests before all the villagers did, such as Hawke.

Witch Hunt explicitly states that the Templars were the only military force that remained behind, and that many of the Templars remained in Lothering and held of the Darkspawn, while the villagers attempted to escape.

Contradicted by the later canon of Dragon Age 2. Call it a retcon if you will.

You get a single line from one of the Hawke's which is highly subjective, versus the objective statement from DA:O. No retcon is necessary.