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[Xilizhra]

LOLandStuff wrote...

Is it just me or that whole "greatly underestimating mages" sounded rather ominous.

Why do you say so?

[Star fury]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Star fury wrote...
I missed something or do templars and senior mages make the Harrowing while they simultaneously fight demons? I haven't seen Gregoir and Irving desperately fighting demons while they send you in the Magi Origin. Could be wrong though.

Mages aren't soldiers. The enemies they face are in the Fade and not like anything on this earth, and that is where they must fight them and that is also why they must face them alone.
That's kinda the whole point.

Your changes to the Harrowing would make it pointless.

Then go and tell that to people who introduced a military analogy.

[The Elder King]

LOLandStuff wrote...

Is it just me or that whole "greatly underestimating mages" sounded rather ominous.

Xilzhra was talking about war between mages and templars, and the military power of the two factions. I don't see what part of her post is ominous in saying that someone understimate mages or overstimate templars (the same for the opposite).

[Star fury]

hhh89 wrote...

@dragonflight288: the fact that the apprentices don't know what the Harrowing is about doesn't means that they aren't trained to resist demons. Apprentices know that demons can possess mages, after all.
Though we have no means to know what is the truth, until Bioware devs release the info.

Again, I agree that reading books and listening to lectures about demonic possession greatly helps to resist and fight demons. I also read lots of military history books, that surely makes me a totally prepared to hardships of real war and generally makes me a great soldier.

[The Hierophant]

I don't get your gripe with the analogy?

Modifié par The Hierophant, 29 octobre 2013 - 07:51 .

[The Elder King]

Star fury wrote...
Again, I agree that reading books and listening to lectures about demonic possession greatly helps to resist and fight demons. I also read lots of military history books, that surely makes me a totally prepared to hardships of real war and generally makes me a great soldier.

I was responding to a post where it was stated that Merrill had some advice on facing a smother demon. Those advices aren't necessarily begin thaught to the dalish mages by practices against demons (I seriously doubt that the Keepers train their First by facing demons)
Apprentices are trained in combat. They learn how to fight. And they(likely) learn about demons.
They don't face demons during training because it'd extremely dangerous.
Do you believe that young mages should see experienced mages fight demons to learn what to do when facing one? 

Modifié par hhh89, 29 octobre 2013 - 08:00 .

[Lotion Soronarr]

The Hierophant wrote...

I don't get your gripe with the analogy?

Because people so often forget that the point of an analogy isn't to be compeltely accurate in every ascpet, rather only to be similar enough in the specific aspect of comparison.

[Br3admax]

Mesina2 wrote...

FreshIstay wrote...

I guess you forgot about Red Lyrium and all the money it made Hawke.
Red Lyrium is a largely untapped resource and considering there is  such a thing as a "Red Templar" I'd say whomever Is leading that Orginization is already harvesting profit from it. Dwarves  most likely dealt with regular Templars directly unless you beleive that Chantry brother's and sister's were directly responsible for the procurement and administering of Lyrium to a Templar. 

Oh.

Well, my bad.

Hmh, still need to familiar myself better with DA lore.

LOL, wut? The Red Lyrium made Hawke zero money. It made Bartrand money, not Hawke, and we don't even know how much he made from it.

[dragonflight288]

Br3ad wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

FreshIstay wrote...

I guess you forgot about Red Lyrium and all the money it made Hawke.
Red Lyrium is a largely untapped resource and considering there is  such a thing as a "Red Templar" I'd say whomever Is leading that Orginization is already harvesting profit from it. Dwarves  most likely dealt with regular Templars directly unless you beleive that Chantry brother's and sister's were directly responsible for the procurement and administering of Lyrium to a Templar. 

Oh.

Well, my bad.

Hmh, still need to familiar myself better with DA lore.

LOL, wut? The Red Lyrium made Hawke zero money. It made Bartrand money, not Hawke, and we don't even know how much he made from it.

Not enough to buy back his sanity.

[Thomas Andresen]

How is it that for all of Merrill's knowledge, she wasn't able to resist demonic temptation, twice?

Not to argue, but I'm pretty sure Merrill's one of those who didn't get possessed.

I have never, ever been able to believe that every Harrowed mage is so unlike actual human beings, that in all the years that the Harrowing has been a thing, it hasn't become common knowledge just through the normal channels of human interaction.

I'm not sure the devs really accomplished communicating just how harrowing the Harrowing is. I imagine that, even in the best scenarios, it's supposed to be a borderline traumatic experience.

To be honest I don't have so much against the Harrowing as I do the alternative.

LOL, wut? The Red Lyrium made Hawke zero money. It made Bartrand money, not Hawke, and we don't even know how much he made from it.

Yup. What Hawke made money off of was random artefacts and treasure. Entirely non-specific.

[CroGamer002]

dragonflight288 wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

FreshIstay wrote...

I guess you forgot about Red Lyrium and all the money it made Hawke.
Red Lyrium is a largely untapped resource and considering there is  such a thing as a "Red Templar" I'd say whomever Is leading that Orginization is already harvesting profit from it. Dwarves  most likely dealt with regular Templars directly unless you beleive that Chantry brother's and sister's were directly responsible for the procurement and administering of Lyrium to a Templar. 

Oh.

Well, my bad.

Hmh, still need to familiar myself better with DA lore.

LOL, wut? The Red Lyrium made Hawke zero money. It made Bartrand money, not Hawke, and we don't even know how much he made from it.

Not enough to buy back his sanity.

Nah, he was too greedy to offer enough to buy it back.