i love bioware, but there cant be love without some contempt. i find things they have done in the past infuriating.
Why the hate from supposed fans?
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#27
Posté 22 octobre 2013 - 10:20
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"Fans" especially Bioware fans a a particularly fickle bunch who tend to consider everything different as trash ,replace one thing and the denounce you from the rooftops and çonsider you the spawn of Satan
But note this is only some fan, you will fine adequate norms with constructive criticism every now and again
But note this is only some fan, you will fine adequate norms with constructive criticism every now and again
#28
Posté 22 octobre 2013 - 10:21
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I think people’s reactions have been mostly positive so far.
I am also a witcher fan but don’t see what difference that makes to DAI as i would like the game to be great.
I know many people don’t trust Bioware and i am not sure i trust them in giving us a good story that makes sense but i am willing to give them a chance.
I am also a witcher fan but don’t see what difference that makes to DAI as i would like the game to be great.
I know many people don’t trust Bioware and i am not sure i trust them in giving us a good story that makes sense but i am willing to give them a chance.
#29
Posté 22 octobre 2013 - 10:42
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Some fans hate EA, as well as Activision and a few other gaming companies on general principles .
Some fans hate certain Bioware developers because of the ME3 ending . Yes BSN posters think it's all forgiven by ME fans but that's not so. And, while a lot of fans were upset over DA2, they seem to blame EA for rushing Bioware and not Bioware itself.
So yes a lot of hate from certain fans aka fanatics out there.
Some fans hate certain Bioware developers because of the ME3 ending . Yes BSN posters think it's all forgiven by ME fans but that's not so. And, while a lot of fans were upset over DA2, they seem to blame EA for rushing Bioware and not Bioware itself.
So yes a lot of hate from certain fans aka fanatics out there.
#30
Posté 22 octobre 2013 - 11:47
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People that like something don't necessarily have to blindly like the next iteration of that. I'm sure the developers would welcome constructive criticism over blind brand loyalty.
People that blindly hate on something aren't helping, however.
People that blindly hate on something aren't helping, however.
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Posté 22 octobre 2013 - 12:15
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It will take time for Bioware to regain trust in their fanbase after the disaster that was DA2.
#32
Posté 22 octobre 2013 - 12:41
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Personally, I'm quite neutral on Inquisition this time, especially because of how DA 2 turned out. I'm not sold on the promises of Bioware doing everything right, that will be seen after release, although I will credit them for actually listening to community feedback this time.
The gameplay video was impressive, but while everyone was wooing and gasping in wonder, questions like "I wonder if they'll end up reusing that same destructible bridge in every fortress, or actually create varied destructible environments this time" and "Are they going to take care of that overly done ground pound effect after a Warrior slams on the ground(you can see a huge chunk of rock lifting and then just dissolving into the ground)?" were buzzing in my head.
I also noticed how there were few animals or any other creatures in the overworld. The world looked nice, but it just felt barren without any life, not even of the demonic sort. Then again, that was the pre-alpha build, they were probably working on a build far ahead from the one they showcased, which is why I never commented on it.
In any case, I don't see the reason why one needs to or is obligated to hate something because they like something else. It's not like the game companies are landing an ultimatum on the gamer, forcing him/her to choose only one game to play.
As for Witcher 3 Vs Dragon Age: Inquisition debate, I honestly don't know. The Witcher series lore never interested me as much as Dragon Age lore did. Doesn't mean I hate the Witcher series, I just never cared.
The gameplay video was impressive, but while everyone was wooing and gasping in wonder, questions like "I wonder if they'll end up reusing that same destructible bridge in every fortress, or actually create varied destructible environments this time" and "Are they going to take care of that overly done ground pound effect after a Warrior slams on the ground(you can see a huge chunk of rock lifting and then just dissolving into the ground)?" were buzzing in my head.
I also noticed how there were few animals or any other creatures in the overworld. The world looked nice, but it just felt barren without any life, not even of the demonic sort. Then again, that was the pre-alpha build, they were probably working on a build far ahead from the one they showcased, which is why I never commented on it.
In any case, I don't see the reason why one needs to or is obligated to hate something because they like something else. It's not like the game companies are landing an ultimatum on the gamer, forcing him/her to choose only one game to play.
As for Witcher 3 Vs Dragon Age: Inquisition debate, I honestly don't know. The Witcher series lore never interested me as much as Dragon Age lore did. Doesn't mean I hate the Witcher series, I just never cared.
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Posté 22 octobre 2013 - 12:54
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Op, you must be very new to the internet.
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Posté 22 octobre 2013 - 01:02
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Complaining and venting is only natural. When people are upset, they tend to not filter what they write or say very well. Best not to respond.
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Posté 22 octobre 2013 - 01:02
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One thing everyone should know is that for any issue or topic in the world, there is a bell curve to its approval. The vast majority of any group are largely indifferent or silent on a topic. The only people that usually bother to post their thoughts are in the minority on either end of the spectrum.
If you see a poll on something just discount the top 10% and bottom 10% of either side. They will love/hate the issue regardless of what it is.
If you see a poll on something just discount the top 10% and bottom 10% of either side. They will love/hate the issue regardless of what it is.
#36
Posté 22 octobre 2013 - 04:29
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So Naive, a Corporation like Electronic Arts, will have a lot of hater's Specially when EA courage's other Gaming Businesses and leads by an example. They Are just spreading Negative Propaganda about any EA release there is, Cause Ignorant people believe anything they read , Santa is real
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Posté 22 octobre 2013 - 04:38
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The 1st incorrect thing about this thread was thinking that youtube comments are from supposed fans.
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Posté 22 octobre 2013 - 04:38
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Fans or ex-fans can be very passionate, demanding and when they don't get what they want, they can become very spiteful and vindictive. It is one of the biggest problem with Bioware's fans, they have such high standards and expectations, that when they aren't met, the fans react with seething rage and spite. I have definitely been disappointed or upset by Bioware content, but at some point, if you are still a fan, you have to be willing to get over stuff. If you don't, then you're just some vindictive ex-fan, who doesn't buy the games and still complains about content from years ago.
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Posté 22 octobre 2013 - 04:47
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DatOneFanboy wrote...
So Naive, a Corporation like Electronic Arts, will have a lot of hater's Specially when EA courage's other Gaming Businesses and leads by an example. They Are just spreading Negative Propaganda about any EA release there is, Cause Ignorant people believe anything they read , Santa is real
Is there some kind of hidden message in what words are capitalized here? Is this some type of conspiracy?
Beerfish wrote...
The 1st incorrect thing about this thread was thinking that youtube comments are from supposed fans.
I think the greater fallacy would be reading YouTube comments, period.
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Posté 22 octobre 2013 - 04:51
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Fast Jimmy wrote...
DatOneFanboy wrote...
So Naive, a Corporation like Electronic Arts, will have a lot of hater's Specially when EA courage's other Gaming Businesses and leads by an example. They Are just spreading Negative Propaganda about any EA release there is, Cause Ignorant people believe anything they read , Santa is real
Is there some kind of hidden message in what words are capitalized here? Is this some type of conspiracy?Beerfish wrote...
The 1st incorrect thing about this thread was thinking that youtube comments are from supposed fans.
I think the greater fallacy would be reading YouTube comments, period.
People still read YouTube comments? That's insane
hatin'.
#42
Posté 22 octobre 2013 - 05:02
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I don't like multi nationals for various reasons. It saddened me that Bioware joined EA. That aside I have the most enjoyment playing Bioware games even with there shortcomings. Thats why I still buy them. Of course I try other games but besides Bethesda's elder scrolls and Kingdoms of Amalur (EA again) those games just sit and do nothing.
What is for me compelling about Bioware is the mixture of story and gameplay. Mostly games give one or the other.
I stoped buying games in sales thru steam and the like because after one hour it got tedius and no fun to play.
Just stacking up games made no sense and what other people rave about mostly does not fit, the walking dead being a prime example.
So my taste is rather narrow and occasionally I will try a game and sometimes that gives enjoyment in playing. But my buying spree is over and I rather play games over and over that give me enjoyment. Bioware delivers that for the most part despite very weak games like DA2 and the bad ending off ME3.
What is for me compelling about Bioware is the mixture of story and gameplay. Mostly games give one or the other.
I stoped buying games in sales thru steam and the like because after one hour it got tedius and no fun to play.
Just stacking up games made no sense and what other people rave about mostly does not fit, the walking dead being a prime example.
So my taste is rather narrow and occasionally I will try a game and sometimes that gives enjoyment in playing. But my buying spree is over and I rather play games over and over that give me enjoyment. Bioware delivers that for the most part despite very weak games like DA2 and the bad ending off ME3.
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#43
Posté 22 octobre 2013 - 05:08
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This is the BSN. people are never happy here.
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Posté 22 octobre 2013 - 07:53
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lady_v23 wrote...
This is the BSN. people are never happy here.
It's not as bad, I think. I am on the forum for some time (mostly as observer) and people have a lot of interesting things to say. There is also a lot of positivity, which makes me very happy since all this hate on Internet is very sad.
Compared to amount of negativity in my country, BSN society i full of happy people. That is why I decided to come here, even if my english is far from perfect.
I'm fan of Bioware games since Baldur's Gate and in my opinion they have never made bad game. Most of their games were amazing. Even rushed Dragon Age 2 is a good game just not as great as hardcore fans expected. Similarly with ME 3 (There is a problem with amount of autodialogue, Star Child's logic is...questionable and I don't know what is multiplayer doing here, but the game is fantastic and unforgettable experience anyway).
I don't understand all this exaggerated hatred so I just try to ignore it.
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#45
Posté 22 octobre 2013 - 08:03
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MasterScribe wrote...
Shark17676 wrote...
A lot of it is just straight-up trolling.
For the people who aren't, they're channeling their lingering hatred of ME's ending and DA2 at Inquisition.
In the end, they'll all buy the game and enjoy it.
Basing something's quality on the quality of its predecessors is a pretty standard thing. <_<
It's not just lingering hatred.
The bolded part sounds like something a dictator would say.
Whatever happened to the free market?
The bold part does sound that way, but to be honest, it would not surprise me if the statement turns out to be true.
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Posté 22 octobre 2013 - 08:05
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MasterScribe wrote...
thats1evildude wrote...
MasterScribe wrote...
thats1evildude wrote...
There's negativity, but it's coming primarily from the "Witcher 3 will be better"
I think Witcher 3 will be better, but I'm getting DAI too.
And you're free to think so. That said, there are a lot of Witcher fans set on hating the game.
"A lot" is very misleading, since you don't know the size of the Witcher fan community nor the number of people within that community that even care about Dragon Age.
Even a hundred internet trolls wouldn't represent the whole. It's very likely a minority.
To be fair, a lot does not in any way imply a majority. 10000 people doing something out of 10 million people, is still a lot of people, but is in no way a majority.
EDIT: Those numbers I used were just for examples sake, not to imply in any way that those numbers mean anything about the number of Witcher fans.
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Posté 22 octobre 2013 - 08:15
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this in all honesty will be my last gaming forum i join, i used to be able to join gaming forums an have a laugh, talk about the game, get help with the game, share builds for games tactics etc, you can still do all that to an extent but tbh the internet is mostly full of trolls now a days, especially gaming forums or sites associated with them an mods well no idea whats up with most mods now a days maybe there scared to butthurt someone in this age of entitlement an hand outs or maybe just scared to give the company there representing a bad name /shrugs
Its without exaggeration that i say every game i enjoy now and if it has forums without fail the forums are full of ppl ripping either the game apart , features in said game or the development team for making the game, and i honestly do not understand it.
I spent 7 years in World of Warcraft with a minimum of about 6 hours per day in the game, the developers took the game in a direction i never liked, i found it hard to leave because of all the great ppl i met in - game but i posted a thank you to the developers for giving me 7 brilliant years of a game i enjoyed an the chance in the first place to experience it but because of the direction they were taking it was my time to leave simples ( i still pine for that damn game tbh)
I dont get the hate i honestly dont get it, there is features in games i dislike so i dont do them, there is games i think are complete crap so i dont play them, there are game franchises that go in a direction i do not like so i do not play them, it is that simple, i do not stay about twiddling my thumbs posting hate hoping they will change direction, i move on to the next game because there is thousands out there to take there place just takes abit of time to find one for the most part.
But hey im simple an old lol
Its without exaggeration that i say every game i enjoy now and if it has forums without fail the forums are full of ppl ripping either the game apart , features in said game or the development team for making the game, and i honestly do not understand it.
I spent 7 years in World of Warcraft with a minimum of about 6 hours per day in the game, the developers took the game in a direction i never liked, i found it hard to leave because of all the great ppl i met in - game but i posted a thank you to the developers for giving me 7 brilliant years of a game i enjoyed an the chance in the first place to experience it but because of the direction they were taking it was my time to leave simples ( i still pine for that damn game tbh)
I dont get the hate i honestly dont get it, there is features in games i dislike so i dont do them, there is games i think are complete crap so i dont play them, there are game franchises that go in a direction i do not like so i do not play them, it is that simple, i do not stay about twiddling my thumbs posting hate hoping they will change direction, i move on to the next game because there is thousands out there to take there place just takes abit of time to find one for the most part.
But hey im simple an old lol
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Posté 22 octobre 2013 - 08:17
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My hate is cos this SB Bioware using their fans like a toys f..... with them since ME3 hope their fans open their eyes and to see what SB they are two game companies i hate more than anything the greedy SB Nintendo and this SB Bioware now good day blind fanboys
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Posté 22 octobre 2013 - 08:23
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Haters gonna hate. I believe the reason they are acting up is because it's different and there's always someone that's going to hate something for being different.
