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[Leoroc]

DatOneFanboy wrote...

Chaos Hammer wrote...

who said its 3 3 3... origins was 5 2 2 and DA2 was 2, 3 1/2, 2

(Warrior, rogue, mage)

implying that dog is a warrior. 

Dog is a ****ing dog. 

Dog's class was "Mage Eater"

[Shark17676]

Honestly, I think it's pretty hilarious how people are trying to argue against characters like Iron Bull being a companion.  Seriously, why are you guys so freaking skeptical?  It's not even like there's stiff competition for a companion spot -- there are nine possible companions and we only have three 100% confirmations so far.

Really, think about it -- why would they give a new character so much attention?  If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, swims like a duck, quacks like a duck...then it's probably a duck.

Modifié par Shark17676, 29 octobre 2013 - 03:01 .

[David Gaider]

Shark17676 wrote...
Really, think about it -- why would they give a new character so much attention?  If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, swims like a duck, quacks like a duck...then it's probably a duck.

You do realize that there are very likely to be characters in the story who are, in fact, not party members? Short of seeing such a character actively traveling in the company of the PC, it's best not to assume you know the context in which they appear.

Modifié par David Gaider, 29 octobre 2013 - 03:15 .

[Shark17676]

thats1evildude wrote...

My gut feeling is that the Iron Bull isn't a companion, but rather an adversary. Sure, he's been featured in a bunch of concept art, so he's clearly going to be in the game. But if the proverbial cat is out of the bag, why not just say he was a companion?

Also, I get an ominous vibe from the guy. In all the concept art I've seen, he's always by himself, except in one image where he seems to be in close proximity to a dragon. I would not be surprised in the least if he wasn't acting as a sort of lieutenant to the actual Big Bad.

Because they have a set date as to when they're gonna be officially releasing the companions list.  It doesn't matter if everything and the kitchen sink gets leaked -- they won't be releasing anything ahead of schedule, and they'll let us speculate in the meantime.

And honestly, Iron Bull doesn't seem ominous at all -- stoic and heroic are terms I'd use to describe him.

[Shark17676]

David Gaider wrote...

Shark17676 wrote...
Really, think about it -- why would they give a new character so much attention?  If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, swims like a duck, quacks like a duck...then it's probably a duck.

You do realize that there are very likely to be characters in the story who are, in fact, not party members? Short of seeing such a character actively traveling in the company of the PC, it's best not to assume you know the context in which they appear.

Sorry, David, but I'm still calling it.  Common sense has been tingling since the beginning.  

[Jaulen]

I don't think Leliana would be a companion. She may be an 'asset' but not a companion....too similar to Cassandra.....also why I really don't think that Cullen will be a character. Too many too similar characters as far as a background goes....Allthough Cullen, Cassandra and Leliana may have different personal opinions on events, I just see their 'understanding' of events being too similar due to a similarity of backgrounds. I'd rather have the opinion of a chaistened on world events than three chantry people.

I also don't think they will go with 4 warrior companions.
That would throw off potential party balance, especially since....won't most people be playing their inquisitor as a soldier (isn't that usually the 'default' for these types of games?) Would be interesting to see the stats for what character class people picked for first playthrough.

Not including DLC Characters
DA:O Had 3 warriros, 2 rogues, 2 mages.....and 2 special class Warrior(ish) DLC Characters

DA:II Had 2 Warriors, 2 rogues, and 2 mages.....and a special skill-tree Archer Rogue DLC Character (I did not include the sibling in the count......since you only get them for opening chapter)

And if they do lave a 4, 3, 2 companion count as people are speculating.....I hope there are reasons why I would take certain characters with me......I usually default to a certain party make-up and never swap out characters....unless there is some certain quest I need them for ....(or to level them up and equip them to get stuff out of my inventory)

So with 9 companions....if there is a 'Pick your team' moment where you send one group off to do SideTask X (and you get to play as them maybe?) and your PC goes off to do MainTask A with another group....that would be interesting. And fun. Especially if for the success of SideTask X it so happens that one of the characters you schlep around with you most often has to do the task.....almost forcing you to take a different companion on a main task than you normally would with you for awhile.

and just baseless speculation from me.

[Zenbry]

In support of the Iron Bull as a companion belief, at the Playable Races panel at PAX Prime someone asked if we would get a large qunari as a companion. I believe it was Lukas Kristjanson who said something along the lines of "I don't know. We've shown a character who is a qunari that you are likely to meet in some fashion and perhaps spend some time with in some fashion. But it's under investigation."

Now that could have been just a tease, or a misdirection. Just throwing that in there.

[Ianamus]

David Gaider wrote...

Shark17676 wrote...
Really, think about it -- why would they give a new character so much attention?  If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, swims like a duck, quacks like a duck...then it's probably a duck.

You do realize that there are very likely to be characters in the story who are, in fact, not party members? Short of seeing such a character actively traveling in the company of the PC, it's best not to assume you know the context in which they appear.

But it's hard to picture how a single, presumably Tal'Vashoth warrior who enjoys wistfully looking over various landscapes will be important to the plot outside of being a companion. 

[Aremce]

I'd like to speculate, too!

There are exactly nine - three = six characters who have already been discussed and make sense to me:

Iron Bull: We have humans, elves and dwarfes, so why not a qunari? "Iron Bull" has been featured in concept art and the trailer - and yes, he COULD play another role, but I still think he would make perfect sense as a companion. Especially since he's a Tal-Vashot which would prevent similar character development as Sten's.
Cullen: Seems to have appeared in concept art and for some reasons fans are going wild about him. He is a templar, believes in his Order but is not unreasonable as we saw in DA2. Somehow, it would make sense if he joined the Inquisitor to help restore peace ...
Bearded Grey Warden: We just need a Grey Warden in our party, he appeared in concept art (and gameplay video, probably?) and I already like him. These are enough reasons for me.
Sera: Same as Grey Warden guy. Plus, there are few possible female companions yet - and having a female city elf (I guess?) rogue makes totally sense. I'm sure she'll be fun.
Cole: Just the leaked survey and the fact that he had his biggest development right at the end of Asunder. A slightly insane whatever-he-actually-is goes off to (probably) kill the Lord Seeker, then simply disappears and is never to be heard of again? No, I'm sure he will have some sort of appearence. (Plus, I'd be very curious about how his abilities would be handled ... I imagine them to be quite useful.)
Bald Elf as Dorian: Elf guy in concept art + Dorian from the survey = awesome and interesting character. This rumor makes totally sense to me and I would very much like to see this.

BUT since there would be three females against six males ... there has to be at least another female companion somewhere. My hope is a female mage as the apostate with healing abilities OP mentioned. Instead of Cullen since he is the most redundant one out of those six - or Cole because he could also be dealt with in the upcoming book ... or some side quest in Inquisition.

[CroGamer002]

Can someone explain me popularity with Cullen?

He's not a bad character nor a boring one, but I don't see how he has such appeal that I see him often suggested to be a companion.

[frankf43]

Mesina2 wrote...

Can someone explain me popularity with Cullen?

He's not a bad character nor a boring one, but I don't see how he has such appeal that I see him often suggested to be a companion.

No. It stumps me too.

[frankf43]

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[frankf43]

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Modifié par frankf43, 29 octobre 2013 - 07:57 .

[TheKomandorShepard]

Mesina2 wrote...

Can someone explain me popularity with Cullen?

He's not a bad character nor a boring one, but I don't see how he has such appeal that I see him often suggested to be a companion.

well if alistair have so much fans and he whine often so you can guess only that character based entirely on whining can have fans as well.Cullen from twilight have fangirls as well.  

Modifié par TheKomandorShepard, 29 octobre 2013 - 07:54 .

[Beerfish]

That forbidden templar love in DAO with Cullen stammering all over the place with the female warden. He also has the hair.

[CroGamer002]

@TheKomandorShepard

Hmh, only time I can remember Alistair whining is when nearly every Grey Warden died at Ostagar, including Duncan who he sees as a father figure.
And you can ask him to not talk about it all and he will.

While... when did Cullen whine?


And I don't see connection between the two, besides both had Templar training. Oh and have same hair color.

I'm still confused.


@Beerfish

Well, is there a law against Templar's and mages can't be in love?
Or it's just Cullen's anti-mage sentiment after what happen in Ferelden's Circle?

Modifié par Mesina2, 29 octobre 2013 - 08:00 .

[TheKomandorShepard]

Mesina2 wrote...

@TheKomandorShepard

Hmh, only time I can remember Alistair whining is when nearly every Grey Warden died at Ostagar, including Duncan who he sees as a father figure.
And you can ask him to not talk about it all and he will.

While... when did Cullen whine?


And I don't see connection between the two, besides both had Templar training. Oh and have same hair color.

I'm still confused.


@Beerfish

Well, is there a law against Templar's and mages can't be in love?
Or it's just Cullen's anti-mage sentiment after what happen in Ferelden's Circle?

If you ignored him and agree with him on every decision then yes otherwise he whines everytime like duncan-wardens talks or connor quest as examples.

His entire role in dao and hawke-cullen conversations.

[CroGamer002]

@TheKomandorShepard

So, that mean his fangirls didn't agree with him most of the time?

Then why did... never mind.

[Saberchic]

Beerfish wrote...

That forbidden templar love in DAO with Cullen stammering all over the place with the female warden. He also has the hair.

^This. Totally.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Mesina2 wrote...

@TheKomandorShepard

So, that mean his fangirls didn't agree with him most of the time?

Then why did... never mind.

Well if you play in the way that alistair wants but as your first pt you play as you want not character don't you think he whines at most decisions if you don't take "good" route not everyone play as the messiah. 

[Leoroc]

I hope Cullen is in, and he is probably around forty at the time of DAI, so I hope it is a hard forty, with a big bald spot and a haggard face. See how loyal the Cullen fans are =p

[Potato Cat]

Mesina2 wrote...

Can someone explain me popularity with Cullen?

Because the guy has probably had more character development than another other NPC? In Origins, he was very sympathetic to the plight of the mages, but while also balancing his loyalty to the Chantry and his duty to the Templar Order. The Uldred fiasco radically changed his perception of them, having seen his friends tortured and killed by demons and psychologically tormented himself and he became a bit of a Chantry zealot. But when he was moved the Kirkwall and saw the much harsher treatment of mages there, he slowly began to once again question his views and wonder is it fair, is it right to treat mages like this? Then he finally realises Meredith has gone too far and stands up to her.

He's been forced from one extreme to the other and landed in very murky, ambiguous territory. His character could go either way, I feel. And throw in an (at least) ten year strong lyrium addiction, (which I vaguely remember the writers expressing the view that they really haven't done it much justice in the past), and you have some very interesting implications for DA:I.

[The Qun & the Damned]

Elfman wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Can someone explain me popularity with Cullen?

Because the guy has probably had more character development than another other NPC? In Origins, he was very sympathetic to the plight of the mages, but while also balancing his loyalty to the Chantry and his duty to the Templar Order. The Uldred fiasco radically changed his perception of them, having seen his friends tortured and killed by demons and psychologically tormented himself and he became a bit of a Chantry zealot. But when he was moved the Kirkwall and saw the much harsher treatment of mages there, he slowly began to once again question his views and wonder is it fair, is it right to treat mages like this? Then he finally realises Meredith has gone too far and stands up to her.

He's been forced from one extreme to the other and landed in very murky, ambiguous territory. His character could go either way, I feel. And throw in an (at least) ten year strong lyrium addiction, (which I vaguely remember the writers expressing the view that they really haven't done it much justice in the past), and you have some very interesting implications for DA:I.

And that, my friends, is the best argument to see Cullen again in DA:I, versus the 'Dayum, he fine!" one I've heard to death, even though it kind of true, that's not a good reason.

Modifié par ScreechingViolence, 29 octobre 2013 - 10:45 .

[Thetford]

What are the chances of Wynne's son Rhys appearing (I have never read the book that involves him so I do not know much about him), I can imagine a companion quest involving him, his mother and her deathbed (or tombstone, depending on the events of Origins). Likewise, he could easily fit as the Healer mage thing, as his mother was. Plus isn't he in Orlais?

[Leoroc]

The chances are high, but will likely be dependent on your import.