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[Vnnk]

 Personaly id love it. In my ideal world he would be one of the new companions. Other wise i would like to see what happened to him in the events after DAO after you decide what to do with him. I always though his potential as a charcacter was wasted with the way it was presented in the mage orgin not going deeper on why he became a blood mage and how he gained the knowlege to become one.

Im not to sure if he will even be talked about again considering the console bug with his quest after you free him but i hope that dose not make  bioware scrap him completely.

[maliluka]

Jowan annoyed me more than anything else, probably had a lot to do with his voice. Not really interested in seeing him again.

[Endurium]

After hearing his voice coming from many NPCs in DAO, I'd rather not hear it again. Quite enjoyed executing him on the last run through...

Perhaps if he didn't come off so whiny all the time...

[Am1vf]

I would like that. Not one of the ones I would think about but still, I would like to see him again and how has he been doing.

...not sure that phrase made much sense. Short answer: yes.

[AutumnWitch]

No...he is/was a bad person and Lilly is paying the price.

[Lord Raijin]

Jowan is my homeboy. I would LOVE for him to return I need my mages bros back and that includes Anders.

[Lord Raijin]

AutumnWitch wrote...

No...he is/was a bad person and Lilly is paying the price.

Lily did it to herself, not Jowan.

[Garrus Vakarian45]

Jowan screwed me over 3 different times. I would love a spell to reanimate him so I can kill him over and over!!!

[MisterJB]

It's pretty hard to come back from a broken neck.

[Vnnk]

AutumnWitch wrote...

No...he is/was a bad person and Lilly is paying the price.

How so ? If anything i think Jowan was always very meek and agreed with an uper post whiney. Sure he lied and ditched Lilly but i honestly think the only reason he became a blood mage becuase he was backed into a corner with the possibility of him being made tranquil he was aftraid and weak how else would you react after years of being weak compared to your own friend.

[Spectre slayer]

Maybe if there was a reason for him to return as an npc somewhere, but I don't particularly care either way.

[Medhia Nox]

Jowan is the biggest example of mage stupidity that is rampant across Thedas.

When my mage woke up after the Harrowing - I was hoping the "Demon!" reaction would have had my mage turn him into a puddle of goo.

Alas - his buffoonery is to last through too much of Origins.

Modifié par Medhia Nox, 23 octobre 2013 - 07:49 .

[AutumnWitch]

Vnnk wrote...

AutumnWitch wrote...

No...he is/was a bad person and Lilly is paying the price.

How so ? If anything i think Jowan was always very meek and agreed with an uper post whiney. Sure he lied and ditched Lilly but i honestly think the only reason he became a blood mage becuase he was backed into a corner with the possibility of him being made tranquil he was aftraid and weak how else would you react after years of being weak compared to your own friend.

I'd fall on my sword before I let my my lover suffer like that due to my actions. I'd lie and say I made her do and do whatever I had the power to do to save the woman I loved even if that meant me sacrificing my own life.

[Lord Raijin]

Ugh! Here comes the Jowan haters... calling him stupid when he was fighting for his sanity. He knew he was scheduled to be made tranquil... all thanks to Lily telling him... and now hes stupid and dumb for defending himself when he was surrounded by his authorities.

Yeah great logic right there people.

[maliluka]

Jowan was very week minded, his heart may have been in the right place and yes he did try and use blood magic to escape. He did this trying to escape with Lily, Lily at that time rejected him... had Jowan been truthful with her about what he was who knows. His weakness was then letting Lily take the fall for his actions by running away.  Not hating on Jowan.  that is just the way I see him

Modifié par maliluka, 23 octobre 2013 - 08:03 .

[TribolMan]

No

[Tootles FTW]

I'd prefer to come across Lily, actually, and hear what happened to her.

[Lord Raijin]

maliluka wrote...

Jowan was very week minded, his heart may have been in the right place and yes he did try and use blood magic to escape. He did this trying to escape with Lily, Lily at that time rejected him... had Jowan been truthful with her about what he was who knows. His weakness was then letting Lily take the fall for his actions by running away.

Jowan was far from being weak minded. Lily knew having a relationship with a mage was illegal by Chantry law, and she did it anyways. Being a blood mage is a serious offense (Is an automatic death sentence), and all of the mages knew about it. Why the hell would he tell Lily of all people about who he truly was? We saw just how unfaithful she was with him during the altercation between The Knight-Commander and her... And how Jowan used blood magic to PROTECT her... yet she was ungrateful and rejected him.

Jowan was right not telling her about being a blood mage. She was an untrusting person.

Modifié par Lord Raijin, 23 octobre 2013 - 08:09 .

[Knight of Dane]

I wouldn't mind.

[maliluka]

Lord Raijin wrote...

maliluka wrote...

Jowan was very week minded, his heart may have been in the right place and yes he did try and use blood magic to escape. He did this trying to escape with Lily, Lily at that time rejected him... had Jowan been truthful with her about what he was who knows. His weakness was then letting Lily take the fall for his actions by running away.

Jowan was far from being weak minded. Lily knew having a relationship with a mage was illegal by Chantry law, and she did it anyways. Being a blood mage is a serious offense (Is an automatic death sentence), and all of the mages knew about it. Why the hell would he tell Lily of all people about who he truly was? We saw just how faithful she was with him during the altercation between The Knight-Commander and her... And how Jowan used blood magic to PROTECT her... yet she was ungrateful and rejected him.

Jowan was right not telling her about being a blood mage. She was an untrusting person.

He LIED!!!! he point blank flat out LIED to her. She risked everything every vow, and gave him privledged information. they intrusted this information to a friend who he then LIED to when asked. Depending on how you play your warden you can still help him as a friend or you can go to Irving.  He is week minded. He is counting on two people possibly ruining there lives to help him out of a tight spot. One he claims to loves, and the other a good friend.  He knew he had been busted as a blood mage and continued to lie and left others to clean up his mess.

edited: typing on phone lol

Modifié par maliluka, 23 octobre 2013 - 08:17 .

[TK514]

He was such a forgettable non-entity to me that I had to remind myself via wiki who he was. Yeah, I probably wouldn't notice if he showed up and definitely won't miss him or care if he doesn't.

Now his victim, Connor, would be interesting to see.

[lady_v23]

never. I hate him. He's so whiny and he needs a haircut. desperately.

[Mahumia]

I would like to come across Jowan. Still think it is a pity he was scrapped as recruitable in DA:O. He is quite a lot older by now than during DA:O, so I assume he is more confident and mature (for those who call him whiny). He is very nervous in the mage origin, but hey, I would be too if I knew I could be made tranquil at any minute, because of politics (Irving does not think it is required to make Jowan tranquil)

[Lord Raijin]

maliluka wrote...

Lord Raijin wrote...

maliluka wrote...

Jowan was very week minded, his heart may have been in the right place and yes he did try and use blood magic to escape. He did this trying to escape with Lily, Lily at that time rejected him... had Jowan been truthful with her about what he was who knows. His weakness was then letting Lily take the fall for his actions by running away.

Jowan was far from being weak minded. Lily knew having a relationship with a mage was illegal by Chantry law, and she did it anyways. Being a blood mage is a serious offense (Is an automatic death sentence), and all of the mages knew about it. Why the hell would he tell Lily of all people about who he truly was? We saw just how faithful she was with him during the altercation between The Knight-Commander and her... And how Jowan used blood magic to PROTECT her... yet she was ungrateful and rejected him.

Jowan was right not telling her about being a blood mage. She was an untrusting person.

He LIED!!!! he point blank flat out LIED to her. She risked everything every vow, and gave him privledged information. they intrusted this information to a friend who he then LIED to when asked. Depending on how you play your warden you can still help him as a friend or you can go to Irving.  He is week minded. He is counting on two people possibly ruining there lives to help him out of a tight spot. One he claims to loves, and the other a good friend.  He knew he had been busted as a blood mage and continued to lie and left others to clean up his mess.

edited: typing on phone lol

Oh right... Jowan was suppose to spill the beans out on someone who was in the process of working for the Chantry and say "Honey I know you're an initiate for the Chantry, but I want to tell you that I'm a blood mage.. Do you still accept this in our relationship?" I don't see that as lying. Jowan did not force her to disclose private information, she did it willingly. She betrayed the Chantry by attempting to aid a Mage to escape, and therefour what she gets is her own damn fault, not Jowan.


In the Mage orgins gameplay Jowan is suppose to be a friend that you knew since 5 or 6 years old. Loyal is faithful to a cause, ideal, custom, institution, or product. You're suppose to be loyal to your friend by aiding him in his escape. That is what a good friend would do in such situation that he was in.  Why would I tell Irving when he agreed to having my friend to undergo the Rite of Tranquilly. At this point I must choose a side... betraying my bestfriend by telling Irving, or help him to escape. I rather choose my bestfriend because that is the person I am.

Modifié par Lord Raijin, 23 octobre 2013 - 08:39 .

[happy_daiz]

About as much as I'd like to see Hugh return.