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Would you like to see Jowan return ?

Débuté par Vnnk , oct. 23 2013 07:14

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Posté 24 octobre 2013 - 06:36

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Lord Raijin wrote...

At the end if you allow Jowan to escape he comes back at a later time protecting frighten villages from a horde of Darkspawn.

Yeah hes such a big bad blood magic that needed to be made tranquil. Comes to show you that the Chantry is full of ****, and that blood mages can be good people.


Isn't this cut from the game? 

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Posté 24 octobre 2013 - 06:36

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StarcloudSWG wrote...

 No. Jowan's story arc hit its end. There's nothing more there.


How do you know that his story ends? Did he die? Did the developers mention it?

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Posté 24 octobre 2013 - 06:38

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Lord Raijin wrote...
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Jowan clearly used Blood Magic to clone himself.

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Posté 24 octobre 2013 - 06:38

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Morocco Mole wrote...

Lord Raijin wrote...

At the end if you allow Jowan to escape he comes back at a later time protecting frighten villages from a horde of Darkspawn.

Yeah hes such a big bad blood magic that needed to be made tranquil. Comes to show you that the Chantry is full of ****, and that blood mages can be good people.


Isn't this cut from the game? 


No it's an actual quest if you let him escape from Redcliffe dungeon. Jowans Intention

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Posté 24 octobre 2013 - 06:39

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Him helping those villagers was cut from the game and use debug mode to open it. Stop using cut content to justify things. It's not the first time you did it.

Modifié par LOLandStuff, 24 octobre 2013 - 06:39 .

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Posté 24 octobre 2013 - 06:39

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Did he die?


Well, he seems both pretty accepting of his fate if that happens and it would be pretty cheap just to shoehorn him into another story after his arc ended rather nicely.

Really, I think after DA2 we are all sick of pointless cameos

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Posté 24 octobre 2013 - 06:40

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Lord Raijin wrote...

No it's an actual quest if you let him escape from Redcliffe dungeon. Jowans Intention



The location for this quest does not appear on the World Map when the
quest is received. The quest can therefore only be completed on the PC
using the debug console as follows:


Sorry. But this is uncanon since it can't be triggered without using cheats.

#83
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Posté 24 octobre 2013 - 06:41

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I could see an opening for a Murder of Crows/Finding Nathanial if you let him run, but maybe not as a companion.

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Posté 24 octobre 2013 - 06:42

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LOLandStuff wrote...

Him helping those villagers was cut from the game and use debug mode to open it. Stop using cut content to justify things. It's not the first time you did it.


Really? Then how come Bioware didn't release a Patch to fix this "cut" to disable it all together? I get this quest all the time from the Chantry board. If Bioware didn't disable this quest all together then it's still canon.

Modifié par Lord Raijin, 24 octobre 2013 - 06:43 .

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Posté 24 octobre 2013 - 06:43

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Lord Raijin wrote...

LOLandStuff wrote...

Him helping those villagers was cut from the game and use debug mode to open it. Stop using cut content to justify things. It's not the first time you did it.


Really? Then how come Bioware didn't realease a Patch to fix this "cut" to disable it all together? I get this quest all the time from the Chantry board. If Bioware doesn't fix it then it's still canon.

Its not canon unless its part of the released game

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Posté 24 octobre 2013 - 06:43

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Really? Then how come Bioware didn't realease a Patch to fix this "cut" to disable it all together? I get this quest all the time from the Chantry board. If Bioware doesn't fix it then it's still canon.


It can't be accessed at all without using the console to unlock it and while its an interesting quest, it can't be considered "canon" until Bioware patches it to actually work.

Modifié par Morocco Mole, 24 octobre 2013 - 06:44 .

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Posté 24 octobre 2013 - 06:43

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I personally see it as Jowan trying to make up for his mistakes. Which is admirable, but still preconditions that his actions were mistakes.

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Posté 24 octobre 2013 - 06:44

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Morocco Mole wrote...

Really? Then how come Bioware didn't realease a Patch to fix this "cut" to disable it all together? I get this quest all the time from the Chantry board. If Bioware doesn't fix it then it's still canon.


It can't be accessed at all without using the console to unlock it. Its bugged and inaccessible, and while its an interesting quest, it can't be considered "canon" until Bioware patches it to actually work.


Please provide me a link to the developers post indicating that it isn't canon and I will accept it as non canon.

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Posté 24 octobre 2013 - 06:45

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Lord Raijin using cut content again, not surprised

I made sure Jowan is made tranquil

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Posté 24 octobre 2013 - 06:46

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Its generally common sense that if something isn't in the game, or is in the game and isn't accessible by normal means, then it isn't canon.

See: The cut newscasts in Mass Effect 2.

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Posté 24 octobre 2013 - 06:46

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Lord Raijin wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...

Really? Then how come Bioware didn't realease a Patch to fix this "cut" to disable it all together? I get this quest all the time from the Chantry board. If Bioware doesn't fix it then it's still canon.


It can't be accessed at all without using the console to unlock it. Its bugged and inaccessible, and while its an interesting quest, it can't be considered "canon" until Bioware patches it to actually work.


Please provide me a link to the developers post indicating that it isn't canon and I will accept it as non canon.

You've got to be joking

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Posté 24 octobre 2013 - 06:47

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The fact that they didn't give a squat about it through a patch means it's not canon.

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Posté 24 octobre 2013 - 06:54

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Morocco Mole wrote...

Its generally common sense that if something isn't in the game, or is in the game and isn't accessible by normal means, then it isn't canon.

See: The cut newscasts in Mass Effect 2.


I don't care what goes on in Mass Effect because I haven't yet played the game.

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Posté 24 octobre 2013 - 06:58

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Lord Raijin wrote...

I don't care what goes on in Mass Effect because I haven't yet played the game.


You don't necessarily have to play the games to get my point. There were many cut newscasts, codex entries, and even character dialog on the disk. None of this turned out to be canon because of the fact it wasn't in the actual game by normal means.

This s a common occurance in videogames.

Modifié par Morocco Mole, 24 octobre 2013 - 06:58 .

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Posté 24 octobre 2013 - 07:05

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I went through allot of effort to make sure he survived my profile. And then we someone who might be him in the dragon age comic. I'd be disappointed if he wasn't in inquisition.

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Posté 24 octobre 2013 - 07:25

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No. Hopefully the templars executed him.

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Posté 24 octobre 2013 - 08:17

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He never struck me as all that interesting.

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Posté 25 octobre 2013 - 02:49

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The bad points for Jowan; he lied, put lilly and the warden at great risk, tried emotional blackmail on the warden into helping him, used blood magic when desperate, poisoned Arl Eamon and set in motion of a series of events for Redcliff. Good points for Jowan; he's in love with Lilly, feels guilty of what has happened and is willing to face punishment and refuses to escape at one point.

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Posté 25 octobre 2013 - 03:25

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I would LOVE to see Jowan return.  I'd also be happy to see Lily again, find out what happened to her after she was sent to Aeonar.  We hear so much about that prison that I expect we'll see it at some point anyway.  Why not in Inquisition?

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Posté 25 octobre 2013 - 04:06

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Agree that cut content isn't canon.
More interested in the Templar's prison his girlfriend was sent to.
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