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[Swaggerjking]

Great idea for a thread. I'd love to see the Dragon Age team take inspiration from Canadian and American folklore. Suggestions? Bigfoot, Mothman and Hodag would be a great place to start!

 

 

Wendigo would be interesting too, but it would still fall under the realm of Hunger Demon. Bigfoot and Hodag would probably just be a creature/monster, Mothman could be a spirit- depending on your interpretation of the myth.

This is what i had more intend the thread to be about random monster that could fit into the lore and not so much about vampire it was just that they are an came right to mind 

Come to think about it we already kinda had a Frankenstein's monster in hawke mom (this always makes me said when i see the scene ) 

[Killdren88]

The only Vampires I'll accept are the unattractive blood thirsty monsters that need to die ASAP. Not the sexualized vampires that seduce you. The kind that jerk your head back and tear your throat out. Sexualized vampires are annoying and have been done to death.

[n7stormrunner]

The only Vampires I'll accept are the unattractive blood thirsty monsters that need to die ASAP. Not the sexualized vampires that seduce you. The kind that jerk your head back and tear your throat out. Sexualized vampires are annoying and have been done to death.

 

 

I have good news and bad news which do you want first.

[Killdren88]

I have good news and bad news which do you want first.

Up to you.

[n7stormrunner]

Up to you.

 

 

good news: vampires are an abomination or possessed non mage so they likelyhood of being pretty or gentle is low.

 

bad news: this does not mean they will not be sexualized, look at the original modern vampire dracula, he was ugly as sin and still heavily sexualized.

 

in fact thats the point, every other monster is there just to rip your throat out. the thing that sets vampires apart from say werewolfs which are rooted in much the same myths is the sexual element.

[Killdren88]

good news: vampires are an abomination or possessed non mage so they likelyhood of being pretty or gentle is low.

bad news: this does not mean they will not be sexualized, look at the original modern vampire dracula, he was ugly as sin and still heavily sexualized.

in fact thats the point, every other monster is there just to rip your throat out. the thing that sets vampires apart from say werewolfs which are rooted in much the same myths is the sexual element.

Fair enough. I would just hope Vampires would evolve beyond that. Yeah Van Helsing Still held the sexual element, but at the least they showed the monstrous predator that lurked within. It was a stepped forward in the right direction. Of course Twilight not only set women back but Vampires as well. In fact making them worse than Dracula in some regard.

[n7stormrunner]

Fair enough. I would just hope Vampires would evolve beyond that. Yeah Van Helsing Still held the sexual element, but at the least they showed the monstrous predator that lurked within. It was a stepped forward in the right direction. Of course Twilight not only set women back but Vampires as well. In fact making them worse than Dracula in some regard.

 

 

I wouldn't even call twilight vampires, really vampires. I am still shocked any vampire could be whinier then louis from interview with a vampire. he at least burned down that coven.

 

you want a good example of vampires,  try hellsing

alucard is gleefully monstrous... even seras grinds that one nazi vampire's face off and she's the closes the manga has to a sweet innocent character. 

[AlanC9]

I dunno ... if you're going to use vampires at all you might as well do the sexualization thing. If you just want throat-ripping you've got other things for that.

[Mirrman70]

I kind of prefered underworlds vampires personally.

[n7stormrunner]

I kind of prefered underworlds vampires personally.

 

 

a little soft for my taste, but at least they aren't whiny, thought as a straight male I just can't protest kate beckinsale in that leather outfit. 

[Gwydden]

As far as I'm concerned, the creatures in Twilight aren't vampires, they are Unseelie court fae, among which do include blood drinkers (the demi-fae.)

I think your making faeries a HUGE disservice here. Fairies are cool. Fairies can be scary. Fairies have presence.

 

Twilight vampires, on the other hand, well...

[Sleepy Somnus]

For vicious feral vampires, 30 days of night portrayed them rather well.

[Sleepy Somnus]

OT: I really hope that Guillermo gets to make his H.P. Lovecraft movie, he is just too awesome!

[Sifr]

For vicious feral vampires, 30 days of night portrayed them rather well.

 

Ninja'd me, I was just about to say that 30 Days of Night are some of the most brutal vampires I've seen in films for a while. Both their design and how they're portrayed are heavily influenced by sharks, which is what a vampire should be. Not sexy, not misunderstood, but vicious predators fuelled by wanton blood-lust and destruction.

 

Actually, aside from the drinking of blood and being less monstrous in their appearance, they're pretty much the same as the Darkspawn when you really think about it. Makes me wonder if Darkspawn are susceptible to demonic possession? A Hunger Demon in a Darkspawn probably would be the best fit for a truly monsterous Dragon Age "vampire".

[Vortex13]

Ninja'd me, I was just about to say that 30 Days of Night are some of the most brutal vampires I've seen in films for a while. Both their design and how they're portrayed are heavily influenced by sharks, which is what a vampire should be. Not sexy, not misunderstood, but vicious predators fuelled by wanton blood-lust and destruction.

 

 

I agree that the 30 Days of Night vampires are a definite breath of fresh air after all the "sparkly" vampires; the first film was (as is the case with most movies) better then the sequel (IMO).

 

Vampires as monsters are a route that I would like to see played out, should Dragon Age ever get around to portraying them in the setting. However, I would rather see an intelligent and cunning vampire as opposed to a mindless monster for us to stab. A vicious predator yes; but one that is capable of 'acting' human; a vampire that has set themselves up as a lord or a politician in human society ≠ Twilight, 'sexy' Vampire.

 

The Venture Clan in the World of Darkness RPG, for example are intertwined in human society; acting as businessmen, or politicians; and while they can use sexuality to get what they want, I would not group them into the 'sexy' vampires that are running rampant throughout fiction. They can easily rip a man's throat out, but they are smart enough to realize that killing any human in sight is only going to unite the mortals against them. A vampire that has positioned themselves so that their food will do the work for them, is far more dangerous then a monster running around the countryside eating the occasional peasant. 

 

A Vampire that is capable of blending into human society; even if just as an act; is also capable of being reasoned with, and I personally would like to interact with the various non-human(elf/dwarf/qunari) creatures of the setting on more levels then "Evil Monster. Stab." Maybe allow players to bargain with the Vampire; we know that they are far more powerful then normal humans, and could quite possibly give us a huge advantage over our enemies; but the downside is that we are allowing a monster to remain free. More "Deals with the Devil" scenarios need to happen in this setting IMO. Would a ruthless Inquisitor allow a monster that eats babies to remain alive, if it meant that you would gain an ally more powerful then all the soldiers you would have got by riding the town of the menace?

[Heimdall]

In DA, I think a hideous vampire works best. We're talking about a hunger demon abomination not a desire demon.

I'm not opposed to the sexual element. One of my favorite vampire books is the short Carmilla (Published several decades prior to Stoker's Dracula I believe.)  Carmilla is quite sensual and charismatic, yet slips into her supposed best friend's room at night to drain her blood while she sleeps... and she doesn't bite her neck.  Instead of super strength, she seems to drain the strength from others simply by touching them.

 

Sexy, yet creepy as hell.

[Rayndorn]

I think an encounter with a "vampire", who is actually possessed by a Hunger demon, could be interesting. A side quest with a bloodsucker theme, perhaps?
"Find the infamous Blood sucker Butcher!" I can imagine that on a village board post.

Considering the veil's weakened state in Inquisition, I wouldn't be surprised if powerful versions of Hunger Demons could control a living host in such a way.

[Vallasch]

I concur with the above poster in regard to Le Fanu's Carmilla. She's a good example of a vampire being sensual rather than sexual. Not only that, but despite being a beautiful young girl, at least in appearance, when she hunts her victim in their sleep, the description is actually quite chilling. She's able to pass through solid obstructions like a spirit, takes the form of a panther and is able to cause paralysis just by her proximity. To the extent that her victim, despite seeing this, still believes it's a dream.

 

Also it's the source for one of my favourite gothic fiction quotes.

 

"Like Carmilla, I had taken to locking my bedroom door at night... But dreams come through stone walls, light up dark rooms, or darken light ones; and their persons make their entrances and exits as they please, and laugh at locksmiths."

[Heimdall]

I concur with the above poster in regard to Le Fanu's Carmilla. She's a good example of a vampire being sensual rather than sexual. Not only that, but despite being a beautiful young girl, at least in appearance, when she hunts her victim in their sleep, the description is actually quite chilling. She's able to pass through solid obstructions like a spirit, takes the form of a panther and is able to cause paralysis just by her proximity. To the extent that her victim, despite seeing this, still believes it's a dream.

 

Also it's the source for one of my favourite gothic fiction quotes.

 

"Like Carmilla, I had taken to locking my bedroom door at night... But dreams come through stone walls, light up dark rooms, or darken light ones; and their persons make their entrances and exits as they please, and laugh at locksmiths."

You put it much more eloquently than I did. +1

[Beerfish]

I'm a vampire!  I'm an umpire!  I'm a bat!  I'm a bat!

 

 

Only the old folks on this site will understand.

[n7stormrunner]

I think an encounter with a "vampire", who is actually possessed by a Hunger demon, could be interesting. A side quest with a bloodsucker theme, perhaps?
"Find the infamous Blood sucker Butcher!" I can imagine that on a village board post.

Considering the veil's weakened state in Inquisition, I wouldn't be surprised if powerful versions of Hunger Demons could control a living host in such a way.

 

 

good news, you have said exactly what vampires in dragon age are.