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[crimzontearz]

Obadiah wrote...

Wasn't Chris Tucker's Ruby Rhod a transgender character in the 5th Element?

So sure. Why not in the next Mass Effect game.

no, he was just flamboyant

[KaiserShep]

Obadiah wrote...

Wasn't Chris Tucker's Ruby Rhod a transgender character in the 5th Element?

So sure. Why not in the next Mass Effect game.

It was never mentioned in the movie, so I assumed he was just an overly eccentric radio personality that's always "on".  I guess it doesn't really make a difference to the stewardess he gets it on with on the space flight to Fhloston Paradise.

Modifié par KaiserShep, 25 octobre 2013 - 01:36 .

[Br3admax]

Xilizhra wrote...

I have an unfortunate feeling that the ME fanbase isn't, overall, mature enough to handle it well.

Now why would you think that? 

[Br3admax]

Steelcan wrote...

Why does it matter?

If they have something important to add to the story I see no reason why not.


HOWEVER I just know that such a character would be added for
-pandering to the SJWs
-controversy

So I see no reason to add one in

Pretty much. 

[Xilizhra]

Morocco Mole wrote...

Since we still have issues getting gay characters written well (and not annoying stereotypes) in media I think we should avoid transexuality for the time being.

I especially don't trust Bioware to do the concept well

Maevaris in the Dragon Age comics worked very well.

[Xilizhra]

Morocco Mole wrote...

That's nice, Xilizhra.

But why isn't she in the games and instead relegated to the comics no one reads anyway?

They didn't think of her until after DA2? No one visited Tevinter in any of the games?

[General TSAR]

@OP, Nope.

Inclusion/diversity for its own sake does not matter to videogames

Read more at http://venturebeat.c...cQA6QtO2Odic.99

Xilizhra wrote...

I have an unfortunate feeling that the ME fanbase isn't, overall, mature enough to handle it well.

Yes, we should be more enlightened like you and discuss mature topics like Asari Vaginas.

Modifié par General TSAR, 25 octobre 2013 - 02:25 .

[CronoDragoon]

Only if they can do it in a way that doesn't seem like their character is just there to be transgender. That would be tough to pull off, I think, but I am fine with the idea in theory.

Edit: I think Steve is a good example of not making a character "that gay character" who's there to be gay. His story is about loss and moving on, and it happens to be expressed through the loss of a husband. I was very happy for him by the end of the game.

Modifié par CronoDragoon, 25 octobre 2013 - 02:25 .

[Xilizhra]

Morocco Mole wrote...

A very poor excuse and you know it. They relegated the (non joke, non prostitute) transexual character to the comics because they know it would:

A: Not generate much controversy because no one but the diehard fans read the comics
B: But still manage to give them good publicity to the tumblr slacktivists while avoiding the issue for the actual games.

Your assertion is noted, but I see little in the way of proof.

[CronoDragoon]

Morocco Mole wrote...

Look, my friend. We all know how this go from DA2.

The character's gender will depend on your PC's gender for maximum romance opportunity

By my condition above I'm fine with all the DA2 characters being player-sexual. They are all well-developed characters in their own right and don't depend on their sexuality to matter in the story.

[General TSAR]

CronoDragoon wrote...

By my condition above I'm fine with all the DA2 characters being player-sexual. They are all well-developed characters in their own right and don't depend on their sexuality to matter in the story.

(Cough)Isabela(Cough) 

[Br3admax]

CronoDragoon wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...

Look, my friend. We all know how this go from DA2.

The character's gender will depend on your PC's gender for maximum romance opportunity

By my condition above I'm fine with all the DA2 characters being player-sexual. They are all well-developed characters in their own right and don't depend on their sexuality to matter in the story.

"Whine, (insert radical problem related to mages and Templars here), whine!" 

[General TSAR]

Br3ad wrote...

"Whine, (insert radical problem related to mages and Templars here), whine!" 

True.

IMHO the only truly well developed character is Varric, everyone else is either emo or an idiot.

Modifié par General TSAR, 25 octobre 2013 - 02:37 .

[enayasoul]

No thank you. I'd rather not see this in games.

[CronoDragoon]

General TSAR wrote...

(Cough)Isabela(Cough) 

End of Act 2 ringing any bells? Besides Isabela's sexuality is merely a vehicle for expressing her true issues, which are distrust of everyone, especially herself, and extremely low self-esteem covered by a loud and confident exterior.

I would actually argue that Isabela is the most well-developed character in DA2. Watch YT videos of her rivalry or even friendship arcs. It's really interesting and shows dynamic character growth.

Modifié par CronoDragoon, 25 octobre 2013 - 02:42 .

[Dextro Milk]

NO.

aka nope, aka stop, aka gtb, aka never.

[CronoDragoon]

Br3ad wrote...

"Whine, (insert radical problem related to mages and Templars here), whine!" 

Yes, it's always awful when a character arc ties into the main plot conflict, eh? Not even true for all characters, btw, as I will mention Isabela yet again.

[Sebby]

This request is redundant as we already have a trans character in ME in the form of ME3 Ashley.

[Jorji Costava]

General TSAR wrote...

@OP, Nope.

Inclusion/diversity for its own sake does not matter to videogames

Read more at http://venturebeat.c...cQA6QtO2Odic.99

Xilizhra wrote...

I have an unfortunate feeling that the ME fanbase isn't, overall, mature enough to handle it well.

Yes, we should be more enlightened like you and discuss mature topics like Asari Vaginas.

Read the article and unfortunately, wasn't impressed. The same basic arguments that the author makes against concerning oneself with issues of diversity in gaming could be applied to any other aspect of gaming. Annoyed that ME3 privileged paragon players with a lot of its decisions, or seemingly disregarded major prior choices (the Rachni, Collector base, etc.)? Don't like autodialogue? Too bad, because it isn't the author's job to cater to your preferences; it's the author's job to make the work he or she most wants to make.

My question is, if we're not prepared to accept this response in the case of autodialogue, gameplay or poorly constructed choices, why should we be prepared to accept it with regard to the issue of represenation? Of course there's a sense in which game producers aren't obligated to do anything besides make the games they want to make, but I don't see why that should immunize them from criticism.

[KaiserShep]

What's the matter Dextro, don't you want something like Pam Grier's character in Escape from L.A.?

[General TSAR]

End of Act 2? I gave her to the Arishok and never saw funbags again, thank you BioWare for that nifty little feature.

Seboist wrote...

This request is redundant as we already have a trans character in ME in the form of ME3 Ashley.

Zing!

Modifié par General TSAR, 25 octobre 2013 - 02:48 .