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[Xilizhra]

Morocco Mole wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...
Because I see nothing at all distinguishing that from how it handles straight characters... aside from having all lesbian relationships wind up ruined somehow, which is admittedly a problem.

Its funny you say that. Because Traynor and Liara can end happily if you pick high EMS destroy.

No romance ends happily in DA so I don't really see your point there

Then I have no idea what your problem is.

Also, your line about DA is a lie. Aveline and Donnic, for starters.

Modifié par Xilizhra, 25 octobre 2013 - 05:26 .

[Br3admax]

Xilizhra wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...
Because I see nothing at all distinguishing that from how it handles straight characters... aside from having all lesbian relationships wind up ruined somehow, which is admittedly a problem.

Its funny you say that. Because Traynor and Liara can end happily if you pick high EMS destroy.

No romance ends happily in DA so I don't really see your point there

Then I have no idea what your problem is.

Also, your line about DA is a lie. Aveline and Donnic, for starters.

What are you going to do with all of these straws?

[iOnlySignIn]

WTF does this even matter.

Also I'm 100% sure by the time of 2187 SRS technology will be sufficiently advanced so that any transsexual character will be indistinguishable physically from cissexual ones. They could revive the dead, or graft a Geth arm onto a Turian (Saren). SRS should be as easy as putting on and taking off makeup.

So no, it certainly will not matter. And I can positively say there are likely already transsexual characters in Mass Effect - you just don't realize it.

Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 25 octobre 2013 - 05:40 .

[Steelcan]

Xilizhra wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...
Isn't this just your cynical view of romance options in general, having nothing to do with homosexuality?

No its my cynical view of how Bioware handles their gay and bi characters. Please keep up Xilizhra

Because I see nothing at all distinguishing that from how it handles straight characters... aside from having all lesbian relationships wind up ruined somehow, which is admittedly a problem.

Yes because FShep/Liara or Traynor is clearly ruined in the end

Well, Shepard's dead or buried.

[GimmeDaGun]

What other purpose would it surve than l'art pour l'art political correcntess and fitting into a recent political trend?

No, thank you. I want to be entertained and not indoctrinated.

[Xilizhra]

Morocco Mole wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...
Then I have no idea what your problem is.

Also, your line about DA is a lie. Aveline and Donnic, for starters.

I'm still not getting your point here. Do you want lesbian characters just to be exempt from tragedy while everyone else suffers?

Ideally, I don't want anyone to be singled out for tragedy. And for at least one or two lesbian relationships to work out well. We have several straight ones that do and one male gay one (Wade/Herren).

His analogy is poor, but comparing purely hedonistic activities like gay
(or even simply recreational, it doesn't have to be gay) sex to other
purely hedonistic activities like animal sex isn't far-fetched. What's
the difference?

The consent problem. I also find "purely hedonistic" to be a very troubling word choice.

Modifié par Xilizhra, 25 octobre 2013 - 05:44 .

[iOnlySignIn]

EntropicAngel wrote...

His analogy is poor, but comparing purely hedonistic activities like gay (or even simply recreational, it doesn't have to be gay) sex to other purely hedonistic activities like animal sex isn't far-fetched. What's the difference?

I've yet to see anyone prove it as far-fetched, anyway.

Provide an example of one thing you've done in your life that is not a purely hedonistic activity then.

[Cainhurst Crow]

This thread is going into a tunnel.

[iOnlySignIn]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Visually, maybe.

What I wonder about is how they'll overlook the whole idea of hormone supplements--cause that's one thing that distinguishes the two now.

Hormonal therapy will be completely unnecessary when you can grow fully functional gonads from stem cells.

We already have such technologies in 2013 for slightly less complex organs such as the liver:
http://www.reuters.c...E9620Y120130703

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Doesn't matter to me. Just as long as they write a good character, and the character serves a purpose other than being "the trans character". I mean the year is supposed to be > 2188 and I would think that the straight community of humanity should have moved beyond where they treat the GLBT community today, and today's players? Deal with it.

[dreamgazer]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

This thread is going into a tunnel.

A hedonistic tunnel where Clarke's law just made everyone potentially transgendered. 

Buckle up. 

[iOnlySignIn]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Waking up this morning (I derive no pleasure from that). Driving to school (same). Taking part in a class, standing outside in freezing weather (same). Browsing BSN and other places (same--it is not purely for the purpose of pleasure. It is to obtain information, to argue points). Doing Physical Chemistry homework (no pleasure there at all). About to head off to work (same). And then, when I get home I may play some video games, which might fit the criteria, depending on which ones I play.

Well, let's just say you put too much stock on how much more pleasurable (gay) sex is compared to other activities. -__-

I've had a physical chemistry exam which was more pleasurable to me than 90% of the sex I ever had. I still remember that day fondly.

Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 25 octobre 2013 - 05:57 .

[Mr.House]

Just how many straws does Xil have?

[AlexMBrennan]

EntropicAngel wrote...
a problem of consent

Do you know what that word means? Only adult human who are not drugged, insane or under coercion or deceived in some form (cf rape by deception) can give consent.