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[Sinapus]

They will keep spawning on wave 10 in silver. I remember a hack objective where their spawn point wasn't too far away and a veritable conga line of Guardians kept coming around the corner towards the hack circle.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Drake Malice wrote...
I have yet to say i cant kill them, i just cant find them

I'm reading between the lines. The issue isn't that they don't spawn - they do. On Gold U/U, you would be completing Guardian 3 without difficulty.

So there are three explanations: You aren't good enough/knowledgable enough to complete the challenge, or you are trolling, or both.

I chose to give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume the problem lay with your ability to kill Guardians.

[palmof40sorrows]

OniGanon wrote...

VaultingFrog wrote...
More to the point Nemesis are far, far, far more uncommon than Guardians.

The hell they are. There's a couple of Nemeses in almost every wave, while Guardians only show up on... what? Wave 2 and extraction?

Correct. Regardess of who is or isn't the scrub, or who is or isn't crying, Guardians are more rare on Gold than Nemesis.

Wave budget spreadsheet has all the details. 

No I won't post it here because reasons.

[Emissary of the Collectors]

Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

Drake Malice wrote...
I have yet to say i cant kill them, i just cant find them

I'm reading between the lines. The issue isn't that they don't spawn - they do. On Gold U/U, you would be completing Guardian 3 without difficulty.

So there are three explanations: You aren't good enough/knowledgable enough to complete the challenge, or you are trolling, or both.

I chose to give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume the problem lay with your ability to kill Guardians.

I mailslot Gs easily, they dont spawn. I never see more than 10 in a game. That is the explanation, there is no between lines, if i couldnt kill them i would start a thread asking killing them but i didnt so therefore with the powers of basic coprehension skills id say my question is when/where they spawn more often

[Wizard of Ox]

If you wrote even remotely correctly, nobody would need to read between the lines. And check the spreadsheets detailing the waves budget if you want an answer.

Modifié par KroGan_eRRanT, 25 octobre 2013 - 03:13 .

[Emissary of the Collectors]

KroGan_eRRanT wrote...

If you wrote even remotely correctly, nobody would need to read between the lines. And check the spreadsheets detailing the waves budget if you want an answer.

And i want you to tell me why "check the spreadsheet" wasnt the 1st and only response...

[IllusiveManJr]

Eh, I'm usually busy tearing through Phantoms/Dragoons or Assault Troopers/Centurions to worry about Guardians.

I get hung up on Husk points also for Reapers. Doesn't bother me though.

[FrozenShadow]

Drake Malice wrote...
I mailslot Gs easily, they dont spawn. I never see more than 10 in a game. That is the explanation, there is no between lines, if i couldnt kill them i would start a thread asking killing them but i didnt so therefore with the powers of basic coprehension skills id say my question is when/where they spawn more often

Just solo silver. Soloing is key as you can then control it all. Thanks to that wave 3, 6 and 10 have endless Guardians. And with maps like Glacier, White or Jade, you can kill them right after they spawn, especially wit drill or AP ammo.

If you can't solo.... well it's little more difficult, though silver is still best.

[Wizard of Ox]

Drake Malice wrote...

KroGan_eRRanT wrote...

If you wrote even remotely correctly, nobody would need to read between the lines. And check the spreadsheets detailing the waves budget if you want an answer.

And i want you to tell me why "check the spreadsheet" wasnt the 1st and only response...

Because you tried to troll and people trolled you right back? 

[Emissary of the Collectors]

I NEVER troll people, i am an anti-troll.

[Wizard of Ox]

Trollinator. Because this wasn't a troll thread? I wonder which would be worse.

[tetsutsuru]

If you need to farm those kind of mooks, yeah, Silver will be your best bet.

[LordDavias]

If I see a Guardian my first thought is "free points!". 99% of the time I'm specced for piercing.

Easiest thing in the game to hit.

When that husk starts running left and right in front of me while I'm lining up a shot. The rage. How dare this obviously-going-to-die-mook give me so much trouble.

[David_Lobster]

Just do what I did... stumble into a husk mode game while searching for a match and max out your Guardian points during one wave.

[DragonRacer]

Someone was cool enough to gather a bunch of really useful info links and pool them all into one thread that got stickied to the top of the forum: social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/343/index/16519288

What you specifically want to find is here: social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/343/index/12857013

With a direct link to the spreadsheet in question here: docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc

[OrcWhisperer]

It's nice that there are strategies out there to get this done, but I don't understand how the Guardian deficit occurs. If you just play U/U/G you will get the challenge without any special efforts, I have earned it nearly thrice without any special effort hunting G's, and I play only Gold/Plat.

[ChrisLupton]

I can confirm that there's plenty of Guardians on silver. Often by the time the objective is complete on wave 10 the only things spawning are Guardians and Engineers.

On silver/bronze it's Nemesis points that are the rarity. Husks are just as hard to get points for down there as they are in gold, by the sounds of things.With the Geth it seems to be Bombers that are lagging behind points-wise, whereas with Collectors the challenges are more evenly balanced.

[OniGanon]

OrcWhisperer wrote...

It's nice that there are strategies out there to get this done, but I don't understand how the Guardian deficit occurs. If you just play U/U/G you will get the challenge without any special efforts, I have earned it nearly thrice without any special effort hunting G's, and I play only Gold/Plat.

Sure you'll get it eventually.

But if you only play Gold/Plat, it's likely that Guardian 3 will be the thing holding you back from completing the mastery, by a long shot, every time (followed by Nemesis, most likely).

Just like you'll get Reaper Mastery eventually, but normally Husk 3 takes freaking ages compared to the rest of that faction.

Modifié par OniGanon, 25 octobre 2013 - 07:33 .

[OrcWhisperer]

OniGanon wrote...

OrcWhisperer wrote...

It's nice that there are strategies out there to get this done, but I don't understand how the Guardian deficit occurs. If you just play U/U/G you will get the challenge without any special efforts, I have earned it nearly thrice without any special effort hunting G's, and I play only Gold/Plat.

Sure you'll get it eventually.

But if you only play Gold/Plat, it's likely that Guardian 3 will be the thing holding you back from completing the mastery, by a long shot, every time (followed by Nemesis, most likely).

Just like you'll get Reaper Mastery eventually, but normally Husk 3 takes freaking ages compared to the rest of that faction.

Yeah, my first reaper mastery I went and farmed husks, but in retrospect it was silly, if I had just kept playing I would've earned it while working on other challenges at the same time.  I wouldn't waste time on a silver or bronze match just to earn a challenge.  Go play and earn credits until you max your manifest.

[Shampoohorn]

DragonRacer wrote...

Someone was cool enough to gather a bunch of really useful info links and pool them all into one thread that got stickied to the top of the forum: social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/343/index/16519288

What you specifically want to find is here: social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/343/index/12857013

With a direct link to the spreadsheet in question here: docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc

#pats dragonracer on the back


This is an excellent stealth epeen thread.

There are some very amusing videos of guardian spawm on either wave 10 or 11.  On Silver (i think), guardians are an unbudgeted spawn enemy and you'll suddenly get 3 or 4 in tight groups after you missile a bunch of dragoons and phantoms. The video is on glacier.