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[thepowell]

Think about it:

1) Admiral Karath knows what Revan looks like now, mask-off.
2) We know that the Republic has the means to communicate intergalactically, so presumably Karath would inform his counterparts across the galaxy.
3) Yet, wherever we go, no one ever goes "OH SNAP IT'S REVAN" in your dealings with them.  Negotiations with Jedi, Sith, Republic, various governments... how is that no one has been told what Revan looks like?

That's always sat poorly with me, and is one of the big flaws of this game for me.  Anyone want to try to suggest a reason? 

[CBGB]

This is not the Revan you're looking for.


Good point about Admiral Karath. I don't know how well he'd be able to share descriptions, though, and people may be more influenced by hearing he's died.

Rocker Lou Reed died this week, and if I ran into someone who looked like him, I'd probably dismiss the resemblance before saying, "Wait! He's not dead!"

Still, there are a handful of NPC's who do recognize Revan, without spilling the beans.

[Boycott Bioware]

In the world where we have computer and digital identification, also scanners, it is a wonder why no one recognize Revan. Surely he/she have records everywhere...in Jedi Archive, any registrations, Republic registration, Sith Academy registration...

Maybe Revan was so ugly when in full dark side

Modifié par Qistina, 14 novembre 2013 - 09:19 .

[DeathScepter]

Maybe Revan is a secretive person that often uses disguise work to complete his assignment. Case in Point within Kotor 1, he used Sith Trooper Armor and Tusken Raider robes to complete his goals

Revan's public persona was well know for using an Armor and Helmet/Mask. Even if someone "had" every marker for Revan, people still will not believe. Even if Revan told them.

[Delanish]

Look at Star wars Movie Darth Sidious was hiding in front of the Jedi for 3 movies and a giant war about 10 years maybe more and the only thing that he did differenly was pull his hood up.

Superman parts his hair the other way and takes off his glasses and no one figured out who superman really is.

Give a suspension of disbelief and come in to the magic circle

[Sith Grey Warden]

In the KOTOR comics, set during the Mandalorian Wars, we never see Revan's face because he's got a hood pulled way over his head, casting a shadow over it. Maybe he was just really shy of being seen. Maybe the Jedi Council changed his appearance while he was comatose, e.g. shave his beard and restyle his hair, perhaps give him some plastic surgery. Though I hate to refer to it, in Star Wars: The Clone Wars, Obi-Wan's appearance is completely changed by surgery to the point where he looks identical to a man he's supposed to impersonate. Perhaps that technology existed already in the KOTOR era (not unthinkable given the general technological stagnation).

[Jorina Leto]

Look at Star wars Movie Darth Sidious was hiding in front of the Jedi for 3 movies and a giant war about 10 years maybe more and the only thing that he did differenly was pull his hood up.

Superman parts his hair the other way and takes off his glasses and no one figured out who superman really is.

Give a suspension of disbelief and come in to the magic circle

 

Superman can do this, because he's a great actor.

 

And how could Revan keep her face secret? Well this is the same universe where a prominet Senator was able to keep the secret of her marriage with a Jedi War Hero.

[DarthGizka]

Not to forget Palpatine, who was the leader of both sides in the conflict and who wasn't unmasked until it was too late.

 

P.S.: I'm surprised to see so many Grey Jedi Wardens here, but I guess I shouldn't.

[Rotward]

Revan had a disguise on under the mask, when people first saw him/her. 

[DeathScepter]

Revan  is the student of Kreia. Well Kreia is known for her mind tricks and stealth abilities.  I am sure that he learned from her those tricks.

[Darth Foolery]

No, sir, YOU think about it ;-) ...

 

 

1. If you truly had paid attention to the games dialogue when you played, it would've become painfully obvious that Admirial Karath was on the Bridge of the Flagship (still say it's the Ravager), when Bastilla unleashed her battle meditation. Though her focus was indeed on Revan, residue from a power such as this is bound to have smaller, yet still significant effects on nearby foes.

 

I suggest you start a new Quest, after Dantooine use this PARTICULAR ORDER (light or dark paths  DO NOT MATTER)

* Korriban (full) TO Kashyyyk (partial-leave big z's big whiney arse there) TO Manaan (full- AND in SOLO MODE.. Yep Calo Nord and all.. YOU CAN DO IT!) then TO Tatooine (partial-ONLY TO BUY HK) Then back to Korriban. If Dustil Onasi appears in his room, he'll tell his daddy the story Karath told him during recruiting.  

 

 

Really? 

 

No.

 

Not Really. 

 

 

Truth is Revan knew who he was the entire time. He's the greatest Force Wielding Badass in the history of the Galaxy. He got bored with being the awesomest jedi, so he went sith. He got bored with that (and horney for Bastilla), so he played Amnesiac to get Bastilla in bed, and to make Carth cry. As for Karath not remembering... Revan Mind Tricked him (Karath wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed.)

 

That's MY Version, and I'm sticking to it!

 

 

"Give me KOTOR 3 or give me DEATH!" 

[DeathScepter]

well i do roleplay Revan that has anmesia but subconsciencely knew whom he was and pieced together all of the information together. So during the Revelation scene, he was not surprised. For Example, I used the mistrusting the Jedi Council lines with Bastila shan and to the Jedi Council. Also I did ask Bastila about not having a Jedi Master. Also Forgave Juhani for her outbursts and told her that it is alright to vent. 

[ChachiBobinks]

I swear, right after chunking my controller at the tv in anger the moment I found out that I was Revan, I thought, "...wait, how did they not know?"

 

I've always just excused it as the ugly/evil factor. We all know that once power starts corruption, those looks are the first to go. Evil!Revan would have been one ugly kid. NotEvil!Revan, all rested up and unknowing of the bad she's done, doesn't have the disfiguring marks of evilness. Works for me!

[Il Divo]

Think about it:

1) Admiral Karath knows what Revan looks like now, mask-off.
2) We know that the Republic has the means to communicate intergalactically, so presumably Karath would inform his counterparts across the galaxy.
3) Yet, wherever we go, no one ever goes "OH SNAP IT'S REVAN" in your dealings with them.  Negotiations with Jedi, Sith, Republic, various governments... how is that no one has been told what Revan looks like?

That's always sat poorly with me, and is one of the big flaws of this game for me.  Anyone want to try to suggest a reason? 

 

It's been a long time since I've played KotOR, but if I remember right, Karath hints pretty clearly to Malak when hiring Calo Nord on the Leviathan that he knows your character's identity. I was under the impression that, at the time at least, they wanted the information kept quiet.

[dgcatanisiri]

Revan rose to prominence in the Mandalorian Wars, and Yuthura says that Revan was known to wear a full cape and mask. So, most likely, the people most reasonably to recognize Revan who didn't join the Sith would be Jedi at the Enclave on Dantooine, and a lot of the ones we meet hadn't been there at the time of Revan's training. Presumably, the only people Revan took the mask off around were the inner circle, the people who turned to the dark side alongside them.

 

Beyond that, I would figure that the people of the galaxy would sooner expect someone like Revan, if they knew what they looked like, would be making a splash on the galactic stage, explicitly and openly attempting to regain their power, rather than going through the proverbial slums of the galaxy, which most of the worlds we go to are implied to be. The only one that isn't, Korriban, is, like Dantooine, filled with people who had been drawn in due to the conflict with Malak and had no idea what Revan looked like under the mask.

[DrPhil]

Yuthura Ban, who was the instructor on Koriban, only recognised Revan for wearing his iconic mask. That said, I'd say she speaks on behalf of the general populi that they only associated Revan with that only known physical appearance to the public. 

[themikefest]

The plot demanded that no one was able to recognize Revan