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#126
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OperatingWookie wrote...

Di-Datau wrote...

OperatingWookie wrote...

Di-Datau wrote...

OperatingWookie wrote...

Di-Datau wrote...

I probably did this wrong because it says 136.4331687.
Peesee manifest here.



136.433/4=34.108

You forgot to divide by 4. Double checking now.


That makes much more sense. Thank you.


No, wait you did actually divide by 4. That means you would have scored in the 500s without the scaling factor.


Think of it as a 100% until I change the equation again.





Weird.


Makes you the oddball.


Momma always told me I was special.

Modifié par Di-Datau, 27 octobre 2013 - 03:39 .


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b00g13man wrote...

XFG-65 wrote...

I didn't say he played with every Spectre.


XFG-65 wrote...

This statement is invalid. Dumdum has wiped the floor with each and every single xbox Spectre, yet he's not a Spectre himself. 


Owned ;)

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Eep... this would involve a lot of math, if I were to actually do it, since I'd have to add the numbers together for three different accounts.

Curse my penchant for starting over from scratch with new manifests. I'll get around to posting my number later, though.

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Wookie, your equation is a little...

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I like how your skill goes up the longer your games take to finish :P

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OK, got it. 21. What is the master race multiplier?

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Heldarion wrote...

I like how your skill goes up the longer your games take to finish :P


People said speed running wasn't skillful.


dr_random wrote...

OK, got it. 21. What is the master race multiplier?



There is none currently.

Modifié par OperatingWookie, 27 octobre 2013 - 03:45 .


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OperatingWookie wrote...

Heldarion wrote...

I like how your skill goes up the longer your games take to finish :P


People said speed running wasn't skillful.


dr_random wrote...

OK, got it. 21. What is the master race multiplier?



There is none currently.


This is an outrage!!!

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How did you derive this equation?  What is it based on?

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OperatingWookie wrote...

Heldarion wrote...

I like how your skill goes up the longer your games take to finish :P


People said speed running wasn't skillful.


People said that N7 level or CP aren't skillful either, and yet your equation would suggest that the higher the CP is, the more skill the player in question has.

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Simba501 wrote...

How did you derive this equation?  What is it based on?



It is based upon the questions I asked in the OP.

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Uhhhh...42?

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Heldarion wrote...

OperatingWookie wrote...

Heldarion wrote...

I like how your skill goes up the longer your games take to finish :P


People said speed running wasn't skillful.


People said that N7 level or CP aren't skillful either, and yet your equation would suggest that the higher the CP is, the more skill the player in question has.


Experience is affected by time played.

It is nothing more than a factor, not a direct indicator.

It balances out. Most of the time.

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Element 0 wrote...

Uhhhh...42?


OK, now I'm jealous! Why does Airquotes get the answer to everything?

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dr_random wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

Uhhhh...42?


OK, now I'm jealous! Why does Airquotes get the answer to everything?

 

"Ah yes, Air Quotes, dimissing all the right anwers to everything, we have dismissed that claim" 

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OperatingWookie wrote...

Heldarion wrote...

OperatingWookie wrote...

Heldarion wrote...

I like how your skill goes up the longer your games take to finish :P


People said speed running wasn't skillful.


People said that N7 level or CP aren't skillful either, and yet your equation would suggest that the higher the CP is, the more skill the player in question has.


Experience is affected by time played.

It is nothing more than a factor, not a direct indicator.

It balances out. Most of the time.


It anything but balances out :P

Players who don't promote lose on plenty of experience in the equation. Even those who promote lose on some of it since they sometimes don't get the full advantage of experience because of the level 20 ceiling.

:P

Modifié par Heldarion, 27 octobre 2013 - 04:12 .


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Heldarion wrote...

OperatingWookie wrote...

Heldarion wrote...

OperatingWookie wrote...

Heldarion wrote...

I like how your skill goes up the longer your games take to finish :P


People said speed running wasn't skillful.


People said that N7 level or CP aren't skillful either, and yet your equation would suggest that the higher the CP is, the more skill the player in question has.


Experience is affected by time played.

It is nothing more than a factor, not a direct indicator.

It balances out. Most of the time.


It anything but balances out :P

Players who don't promote lose on plenty of experience in the equation. Even those who promote lose on some of it since they sometimes don't get the full advantage of experience because of the level 20 ceiling.

:P


Slight issue there.

People who don't promote, like iDieOnWaveOne can get over 100.

So there are flaws, just the opposite of what you said. There's issues, yes, but it works for the majority.

Again, it's being revised. Relax.

Modifié par OperatingWookie, 27 octobre 2013 - 04:31 .


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OperatingWookie wrote...
Does having level 10 ultra-rares that one recommends in every build they post also count as skill despite the majority of player not having them and never will have them?

No.


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However, everyone knows that your banner determines your skill, right?

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Oh lol, here I go, brainfarting again.

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I played with certain people from the top 10 for N7 on xbox because they wanted to join spectre back in the day.
They weren't good enough to join and I ended up removing them from my list because they weren't reliable teammates.

Dat high N7 skill.


This statement is invalid. Dumdum has wiped the floor with each and every single xbox Spectre, yet he's not a Spectre himself. He proved himself to be a better player than your leader Biggs by completely smashing his score after you guys tried to set him up. Then he turned you down and made a mockery of the Spectre group. You really do hold yourself in very high regard. But you're noweher near as good as you think you are, mate. Very few Spectres are as good as the group description claims them to be.

First of all I was leader when the group was only a handful of players which were the best on xbox at the time and then we all moved on and I gave up leader to biggs due to me being inactive.
I know who the best players on xbox are and yes dumdum is one of them in his own way, he didn't want to be a spectre for his own reasons and none of us cared.
Beating new spectres in score means nothing as most of them don't even care about score unless you do that stupid thunderdome challenge.
I don't expect someone with a high n7 complex to understand any of this though since without a definite way to determine skill everyones left with their imagination to decide it's meaning.

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I need more popcorn.

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IllusiveManJr wrote...

I need more popcorn.


Ah yes, eggsbawks drama is unfolding. :wub:

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more people means more drama. and lesser popcorn to go around. :(

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This is so dumbdumb.

Just stoppit.

Modifié par Happy Shepard, 27 octobre 2013 - 04:42 .


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Uh Cold wrote...

XFG-65 wrote...

Uh Cold wrote...

I played with certain people from the top 10 for N7 on xbox because they wanted to join spectre back in the day.
They weren't good enough to join and I ended up removing them from my list because they weren't reliable teammates.

Dat high N7 skill.


This statement is invalid. Dumdum has wiped the floor with each and every single xbox Spectre, yet he's not a Spectre himself. He proved himself to be a better player than your leader Biggs by completely smashing his score after you guys tried to set him up. Then he turned you down and made a mockery of the Spectre group. You really do hold yourself in very high regard. But you're noweher near as good as you think you are, mate. Very few Spectres are as good as the group description claims them to be.

First of all I was leader when the group was only a handful of players which were the best on xbox at the time and then we all moved on and I gave up leader to biggs due to me being inactive.
I know who the best players on xbox are and yes dumdum is one of them in his own way, he didn't want to be a spectre for his own reasons and none of us cared.
Beating new spectres in score means nothing as most of them don't even care about score unless you do that stupid thunderdome challenge.
I don't expect someone with a high n7 complex to understand any of this though since without a definite way to determine skill everyones left with their imagination to decide it's meaning.


Please don't misunderstand. I'm not saying the Spectres are bad players. Quite the opposite. They're excellent players. But the one thing that really caught my attention was the group's description. "A group of the very best Mass Effect players. Exceptional players that rise above the rest."

I understand what you are saying. I myself have played with quite a few Spectres and they've been very impressive and very strong. They obviously know how to play the game.

But for the members of your group to claim that they're the best Mass Effect players out there is just...absurd, sorry to say. (A few notable exceptions: Invaderone, Ferocious Panda, DanDCD, and others. From what I have seen, these players are right up there with the very best, hands down. But I haven't had much experience playing with Spectres, there have been a few encounters every now and then.)

It's hard to determine 'skill' in a co-op game like this against buggy AI. But when someone consistenly doubles other people's scores, then it raises a few questions, and all of a sudden, the so-called elite are no longer considered elite.

I have a problem with the group description only. It's grossly inaccurate and misleading. You're excellent, but you're not the best. Far from it.

Modifié par XFG-65, 27 octobre 2013 - 04:51 .