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[efd731]

 Since corypheus seems rather ticked at the old gods for the whole black city fiasco, do you think that you will have to save the child with urthemiel's soul from him at some point in DA: I ? 

[ScarMK]

No.

[efd731]

Just no? I don't have any strong feelings one way or another about the OGB's inclusion in the game,I'm more interested in Cory's possible actions and motivations

[HurricaneGinger]

Corypheus seems more interested in power than dedicating resources to finding one child he very well may not know about.

[DooomCookie]

For people that didn't play Legacy, they wouldn't have this hypothetical arc right?

I'm not too bothered about plot related stuff. I trust Bioware to do an amazing job there.

[Lokiwithrope]

Not everyone has the OGB on their save file.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

I think Dragon Age treats all or most DLC and expansions as happening anyway regardless if players play them or not. So Corypheus is always free. He didn't seem angry with the Old Gods though. But that could be because he didn't remember the whole incident at the time,

Modifié par Jedi Master of Orion, 27 octobre 2013 - 10:27 .

[sylvanaerie]

I'd rather them focus resources on something that actually could happen in the game. Not everyone has Legacy, so 'no Cory' and not everyone chose Morrigan's ritual so 'no OGB'. Bioware has said the OGB isn't even canon.

So including this scenario would entail 1) Corypheus knows about (and actually has a motive to take the OGB) and 2) a number of set conditions that ensure both actually are in the world and 3) that the Inquisitor, up to his/her ass in demons from the whole fade tear issue (and whatever other major world shattering conflicts are going on) is going to give a rat's butt about some random event like a kidnapped kid. I highly doubt Morrigan (if she is the quest giver) is going to come out and say those kinds of details to the stranger about her son.

Count me in as "No" on this.  Dragon Age already has a feel of 'the world is getting smaller and smaller' each time they bring in old companions to play with the new PC.  Bioware seems to be moving forward with the story and having this kind of scenario is just another step backward.

Modifié par sylvanaerie, 27 octobre 2013 - 10:32 .

[KiwiQuiche]

Cory and Morrigan elope and the OGB is secretly Dumat's lovechild.

[LOLandStuff]

Morrigan: The big bad monster has my baby. Please help me. Is there anyone who can help a poor mother and save her child from this beast?
Inquisitor: Fear not, fair lady, I will rescue your beloved child. Just wait here.

[caradoc2000]

Corypheus is dead.

[ElitePinecone]

There is no old god baby in my timeline - in many people's timelines - so why on earth would they base a significant chunk of the plot around it?

[Sanunes]

I will always have a problem if a major plot point is because of choices made in another game (or media/DLC) and anything related to the "Old God Baby" falls into that category. I prefer the option to have major choices based around the plot of the game I am playing, for that way I am not feeling like I am missing seeing large portions of the game and possibly being made to feel I made the wrong choice or that I have to go back and alter my characters so I get to see the other outcomes.

Modifié par Sanunes, 27 octobre 2013 - 12:15 .

[Chanda]

If you don't take Anders with you in Awakening, or he dies in the end of Awakening, he and Justice still show up in DA2 - Retconned.

If you don't have Legacy, and your Hawke never goes to where Corypheus is held, that doesn't mean that there isn't a way to say that Bethany or Carver didn't go there eventually. Unless they're both dead, and I'm not sure how'd that be explained away, but it could be retconned somehow. (Like Anders and Justice).

If you didn't do the DR with Morrigan in Origins, it can still be retconned. Maybe she slept with that other guy Riordan and it somehow worked, even though he should have been sterile at that point. And your warden or Alistair died killing the Archdemon anyway. It can be retconned somehow.

So I think it could be a possible storyline. Even if your character didn't do it, there's some way to say that it happened.

Modifié par Chanda, 27 octobre 2013 - 12:39 .

[TheKomandorShepard]

LOLandStuff wrote...

Morrigan: The big bad monster has my baby. Please help me. Is there anyone who can help a poor mother and save her child from this beast?
Inquisitor: Fear not, fair lady, I will rescue your beloved child. Just wait here.

And that my pc reation 0:28 mahaha!

[TurretSyndrome]

Corypheus is dead. It is only player assumption that he's alive. So it's really in the hands of the Maker(Bioware) if he's confirmed as alive. Same goes for the god-eater kid.

[Sanunes]

Chanda wrote...

If you don't take Anders with you in Awakening, or he dies in the end of Awakening, he and Justice still show up in DA2 - Retconned.

If you don't have Legacy, and your Hawke never goes to where Corypheus is held, that doesn't mean that there isn't a way to say that Bethany or Carver didn't go there eventually. Unless they're both dead, and I'm not sure how'd that be explained away, but it could be retconned somehow. (Like Anders and Justice).

If you didn't do the DR with Morrigan in Origins, it can still be retconned. Maybe she slept with that other guy Riordan and it somehow worked, even though he should have been sterile at that point. And your warden or Alistair died killing the Archdemon anyway. It can be retconned somehow.

So I think it could be a possible storyline. Even if your character didn't do it, there's some way to say that it happened.

With the amount of flack they have gotten over the changes in the past, especially with Leliana, Zevran, or Anders. I can't see making that many choices for the player so something like this could happen to try and keep the amount of outrage to a lower level at release.

[efd731]

I don't want bioware to include it regardless, but if you did do the dlc and the dark ritual, wouldn't one of the original magisters have a few choice words for an old god? It shouldn't be main storyline, but I think a scene where they interact would be very interesting. So sue me.

Modifié par efd731, 27 octobre 2013 - 02:40 .

[Gwinever]

Chanda wrote...

If you don't take Anders with you in Awakening, or he dies in the end of Awakening, he and Justice still show up in DA2 - Retconned.

If you don't have Legacy, and your Hawke never goes to where Corypheus is held, that doesn't mean that there isn't a way to say that Bethany or Carver didn't go there eventually. Unless they're both dead, and I'm not sure how'd that be explained away, but it could be retconned somehow. (Like Anders and Justice).

If you didn't do the DR with Morrigan in Origins, it can still be retconned. Maybe she slept with that other guy Riordan and it somehow worked, even though he should have been sterile at that point. And your warden or Alistair died killing the Archdemon anyway. It can be retconned somehow.

So I think it could be a possible storyline. Even if your character didn't do it, there's some way to say that it happened.

The DR can't be redconned cause that would unkill your warden/whoever killed the archdemon aswell.
Since the spirit of the archdemon doesn't go to the warden that did the killing strike but to the child if you did the DR with any character elligleble for it

[LOLandStuff]

Bioware couldn't have been more obvious with Corypheus being alive and well. All that was missing was Corypheus waving and shouting from Janeka/Larius' body and how he possessed them.

[EmperorSahlertz]

TurretSyndrome wrote...

Corypheus is dead. It is only player assumption that he's alive. So it's really in the hands of the Maker(Bioware) if he's confirmed as alive. Same goes for the god-eater kid.

The game did go out of its way though, to imply that something fishy was going on, after the supposed death of Corypheus.

[efd731]

All that was missing was some Bond villain style evil plot explanation and maniacal laughter.

[Spectre slayer]

Corypheues seal was failing wasn't it which is why Hawke went there in the first place so it could've disappeared and released him anyway.

Also they strongly hinted at him being alive after Hawke freezes him and supposedly kills him but did anyone notice that he says something like " Is there a chill in the air hahahaha. " 4:08 ish in.
m.youtube.com/watch

When the wardens get back up and after you "kill" him their speech patterns change creepy music and they smile creepily.

As for the old god baby thing not everyone did the ritual and it's not their canon, also if you did the ritual then how would he know of the childs existence if only a select few actually know it exists so no I don't think it will be a storyline.

Modifié par Spectre slayer, 27 octobre 2013 - 03:40 .

[TurretSyndrome]

Spectre slayer wrote...
When the wardens get back up and after you "kill" him their speech patterns change creepy music and they smile creepily.

That right there is your only implication, if it can even be called as such. 

[EmperorSahlertz]

TurretSyndrome wrote...

Spectre slayer wrote...
When the wardens get back up and after you "kill" him their speech patterns change creepy music and they smile creepily.

That right there is your only implication, if it can even be called as such. 

Don't tell me you are one of those who are gonna **** and moan once Corypheus reappears.....