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Will We Ever See Morrigan Again?


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InvaderErl

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I've heard that theory before many times, this is hardly the first time its been brought up (in fact it was being discussed just yesterday in the strategy forum).

Now first of all, Flemeth obtained her power from making a pact with a Fade Demon and becoming an abomination something which Morrigan shows she's not willing to do when she meets the Desire Demon so becoming Flemeth 2.0 doesn't strike me as her ultimate goal. Secondly I don't think it fits with her comments about preserving the soul and it representing freedom. Lastly it lacks any sort of dramatic power or surprise if just Flemeth-ing it is her plan, that is literally the most boring thing they could do and I doubt they'll go down that route.

Modifié par InvaderErl, 23 janvier 2010 - 02:02 .


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Rest easy, dear Morrigan lovers.  She'll be back!  Don't you all know that DA:O was really all about her and her getting knocked up with Old God Dragon Baby - who will ultimately be the key to destroying the Darkspawn and the Blight forever?  Old God Dragon Baby will bring the Maker back to Thedas and put the Veal into the Chant, I tell you!

Personally, the only way I'd want to see Morrigan again is if her soul has been consumed and her body has been possessed by her dear mother. (I've always let Flemeth live, because I agree with her that "The lies are more fun"  when the lies involve Morrigan)  I swear, I couldn't do anything without her complaining.  Which is why she's always left keeping the camp fire going while I'm off slaying Darkspawn.  :innocent:

But...

Yes.  If she doesn't show up again, I'll be very surprised.  I may not have liked her, but there's still a story to be told. :P

Modifié par ScimitarMoon, 23 janvier 2010 - 02:51 .


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ScimitarMoon wrote...

Rest easy, dear Morrigan lovers.  She'll be back!  Don't you all know that DA:O was really all about her and her getting knocked up with Old God Dragon Baby - who will ultimately be the key to destroying the Darkspawn and the Blight forever?  Old God Dragon Baby will bring the Maker back to Thedas and put the Veal into the Chant, I tell you!


Blashphemy... It's the old god's followers that drove the Maker out in the first place.

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ScimitarMoon

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13eelzebub wrote...

ScimitarMoon wrote...

Rest easy, dear Morrigan lovers.  She'll be back!  Don't you all know that DA:O was really all about her and her getting knocked up with Old God Dragon Baby - who will ultimately be the key to destroying the Darkspawn and the Blight forever?  Old God Dragon Baby will bring the Maker back to Thedas and put the Veal into the Chant, I tell you!


Blashphemy... It's the old god's followers that drove the Maker out in the first place.


Redemption for the Old Gods via the Old God Dragon Baby!  :o

They'll all hold hands and chant the Chant!

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I'm waiting for a Maker = Evil twist. :P

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Hmm. Judging from this thread, Morrigan leaves your party no matter the decision you make regarding her child.



Heh. I wish I'd known this, because when she left my party (after I denied her Old God child proposal), she took some of the party's best armor/weapons/accessories with her. Items I paid cold, hard, sovereigns for!



I looked in my inventory after she left and, no, none of what she had was there.



My warden character is female, and I had Morrigan calling her a "friend." So, yes, it stung more than a bit when she just up and left.



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I'd say Morrigan will return in DA2. And that's soon enough for me.

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Hyrist wrote...

I'm amazed more people haven't put 2 and 2 together.

Morrigan is a name for an old Irish war Goddess among other things. Additionally, several characters hint suspicions that Morrigan has an alternate motive towards your main character. Obviously of course that's having the OId God child, but what's got me curious is Flemeth and that personal plot.

Preserving and Old God is all well and good, but even that seems a bit too noble of a cause for Morrigan and Flemeth. Thinking on how the old hag reacted rather expectantly to my PC showing up. I'm of the inclination that Morrigan knew of Flemeth's intentions before she even set out on the journey with the Wardens.

"It is an old tale that Flemeth has heard many times, and even told."

This line in particular has me thinking that Morrigan actually has it in her to use the Old God child in the same manner Flemeth intended on using Morrigan, in order to become an goddess herself. To do so, of course, Morrigan would need to know the full details of the possession ritual, something she intended to find within the Black Grimore, but did not. Which lead her to having to have the PC face Flemeth herself and gain the full possession spell details from the true Grimore.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if Morrigan was seen in a future Dragon Age game as a goddess or dragon, much like her mother could have been.

I only hope that the developers keep her as more or less a protagonist, however. As devious and well thought out her intentions were, she's still got a soft spot with me.

That said, I've no doubts we'll see her again. I just hope they allow my PC from the first game to encounter her again.


The points made here are valid enough, but, in the end, I think some small details change depending on how you choose to play the game and the manner of your relationship with Morrigan. Was it Flemeth's Plan from the beggining to use the Grey Warden to provide her with a Human Host to take over that would be more Powerful than any other Daughter she herself could 'ever' hope to conceive? Obviously.

Was it Morrigan's intention to instead turn the tables, destroy Flemeth, and use a similar Ritual to take the Child's Power for herself? Possibly.

Is that still the case? Well, that, as I said, depends on how you managed your Warden's Relationship with Her. For those who choose to keep Morrigan at arms length, it is likely when you see Her again she might very well either still be planning to claim the Child's Power for herself or have claimed it already. For those who choose to Win her Heart, I think things might be really rather different.

Though I can not repost the entire conversation, I do know that Morrigan's motivations towards the Ritual and the Child change depending on the depth of her feelings for the Warden. If the Warden is her True Love, it only makes sense that she would not wish to do 'anything' that would cause him undue Harm. Were she still planning to take the Child's Power she would know that eventually the Warden would learn of it, and set off to prevent this from occuring, a Journey that would likely end with the Warden killing Morrigan, which in turn would be like killing a part of Himself. I do not think that version of Morrigan would inflict such a wound on her beloved. As to her new motivations?

Take into account Morrigan's hatred of the Chantry, the Circle Towers, and the proverbial 'Gilded Gage' livestyles of Magic users. I believe the more Noble Morrigan will instead choose to Raise a child that will able to Free the Mages of Thedas, minus the Mage's of Tevinter, from the oppression of the Chantry. In her eyes, Mages that could be free to utulize their respective Powers without the zealousness of the Chantry would provide a Power to Equal that of the Darkness behind the Architect and the Darkspawn; ergo, she would be able to help her Beloved Win his War against the Great Enemy of Humankind while serving another, in her Eyes, Noble goal. However, if, again, the Warden never loved her at any point during their time together Her motivation might be similar, though instead of the Child providing that Freedom to Mages, it would be Her having taken possession of the Child.

Now, we already know from the Devs that Choices made in DA:O Will affect the rest of the Saga, that's been essentially confirmed and it is a system already being put to use via the Mass Effect Saga and even Awakening. So, there you have it. My two cents. Regardless of Bioware's course of action, I would say that, Respectfully, believing that our Warden will Never see Morrigan again is foolhardy. As it has been stated before, she is far too pivitol to the Warden's story in one form or another. However they choose to do it, I know it will be yet another Epic moment in this Grand Adventure.
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So called "love" doesn't mean much. Next time you see Morrigan she'll probably be in "love" with two or three other men. I just want the child for myself... so that I can play as the child in a later expansion. Then I can truly be an over powered mage. My PC mage is fairly powerful, Morrigan is pretty powerful, so the kid will be like Gaxkang 2.0. He will have Gaxkang stats. And maybe even an Old God spell tree/school to pick from. If he or a more powerful Morrigan ends up being a boss, then more fun for me. I've dealt with better mages.

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I really don't understand why people don't like Morrigan. If I were to find someone like her for real.. minus the powers lol.. I would do anything in my power to try and get a ring on her finger. I donno why but theres something about her that I actually look for in a woman.