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[The Last]

OniGanon wrote...

Dolun wrote...
While the people who don't use them care less about what people puts on in the temp slot and less hostile, hell most aren't even posting on the forums and actually playing the game.

You. Just you.

Stop saying 'the people.'

You aren't speaking for a majority.

You're not even speaking about a significant minority.

You are speaking for you, and only you.

The majority, the overwhelming majority- to the point that finding an exception is like finding a mermaid in a goddamn desert-  who do not use consumables turn out to be inexperienced/poor players. Judging based on this fact is not childish, it's prudent.

And y'know, I really wish I could say I am sorry that you might be judged wrongly based on this. But I am not. It's only your own laziness and/or apathy that keeps you lumped with that group. Less than 10 seconds of effort gets you out of it.

Just put on the equipment. Always.

Lol you really think the people on the forums is the "majority", ima end it here, didnt make this topic for flaming, have fun.

[Simba501]

Dolun wrote...

OniGanon wrote...

Dolun wrote...
While the people who don't use them care less about what people puts on in the temp slot and less hostile, hell most aren't even posting on the forums and actually playing the game.

You. Just you.

Stop saying 'the people.'

You aren't speaking for a majority.

You're not even speaking about a significant minority.

You are speaking for you, and only you.

The majority, the overwhelming majority- to the point that finding an exception is like finding a mermaid in a goddamn desert-  who do not use consumables turn out to be inexperienced/poor players. Judging based on this fact is not childish, it's prudent.

And y'know, I really wish I could say I am sorry that you might be judged wrongly based on this. But I am not. It's only your own laziness and/or apathy that keeps you lumped with that group. Less than 10 seconds of effort gets you out of it.

Just put on the equipment. Always.

Lol you really think the people on the forums is the "majority", ima end it here, didnt make this topic for flaming, have fun.

I believe he's saying that the majority of good players use consumables, and the majority of inexperienced players don't.  

[The Last]

Simba501 wrote...

Dolun wrote...

OniGanon wrote...

Dolun wrote...
While the people who don't use them care less about what people puts on in the temp slot and less hostile, hell most aren't even posting on the forums and actually playing the game.

You. Just you.

Stop saying 'the people.'

You aren't speaking for a majority.

You're not even speaking about a significant minority.

You are speaking for you, and only you.

The majority, the overwhelming majority- to the point that finding an exception is like finding a mermaid in a goddamn desert-  who do not use consumables turn out to be inexperienced/poor players. Judging based on this fact is not childish, it's prudent.

And y'know, I really wish I could say I am sorry that you might be judged wrongly based on this. But I am not. It's only your own laziness and/or apathy that keeps you lumped with that group. Less than 10 seconds of effort gets you out of it.

Just put on the equipment. Always.

Lol you really think the people on the forums is the "majority", ima end it here, didnt make this topic for flaming, have fun.

I believe he's saying that the majority of good players use consumables, and the majority of inexperienced players don't.  

Yeah i only look at non flaming posts, don't care for dealing with the flamed ones, thanks for the interpretation tho.

[cronshaw]

Dolun wrote...

Yeah i mean, im not criticizing anyone for their opinions against non consumable users, im just wondering like...you say that no one needs consumables to be effectivein this game, yet people who don't put them on are criticized. If they don't need them then why the hate? Not that i experience this ingame, since most ingame people are quite the opposite and don't care either way.

I just wonder sometimes if the people talking still play with pugs, or play with the BSN "elite" they meet on forums, i'd personally have no problem popping every consumable i have into the matches no matter who is playing as long as i know they want to get it done.

I'm not sure if anyone has said this but it isn't about being effective it is an etiquette thing
It is a show of good faith to put consumables on in a lobby full of people you don't know
it shows you care about where the match goes
play with those people again or get them on your friends list and maybe they don't care so much if you don't use any consumables
but when you are in a lobby full of strangers it is good to know people are using consumables and using them correctly.

Modifié par modok8, 28 octobre 2013 - 09:14 .

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Gee... all this seems familiar... is that you Malice?

[OniGanon]

Dolun wrote...
Lol you really think the people on the forums is the "majority", ima end it here, didnt make this topic for flaming, have fun.

Reading comprehension failure. The 'majority' in question refers to the players who do not use consumables in a Gold PUG. The forums have nothing to do with this.

Also, please point out exactly where I'm flaming you.

Flaming suggests I am making no argument, that I have no purpose, no point to make here, that I am doing nothing but hurling insults.

To accuse me of such is, I believe, far more insulting of me than anything I have said of you. So I say again: show me where I am flaming or please retract your statement.

Or perhaps you'll just ignore this post and/or briefly skim over and completely miscomprehend because I'm such a flaming flamer that does nothing but flame.

Simba501 wrote...
I believe he's saying that the majority of good players use consumables, and the majority of inexperienced players
don't. 

Actually I'm saying the majority of good players use consumables, and that the majority of those who do not are not good players. It's a small but very important difference. It's the difference between saying a dog has 4 legs, or that everything with 4 legs is a dog.

Modifié par OniGanon, 28 octobre 2013 - 09:33 .

[The Last]

modok8 wrote...

Dolun wrote...

Yeah i mean, im not criticizing anyone for their opinions against non consumable users, im just wondering like...you say that no one needs consumables to be effectivein this game, yet people who don't put them on are criticized. If they don't need them then why the hate? Not that i experience this ingame, since most ingame people are quite the opposite and don't care either way.

I just wonder sometimes if the people talking still play with pugs, or play with the BSN "elite" they meet on forums, i'd personally have no problem popping every consumable i have into the matches no matter who is playing as long as i know they want to get it done.

I'm not sure if anyone has said this but it isn't about being effective it is an etiquette thing
It is a show of good faith to put consumables on in a lobby full of people you don't know
it shows you care about where the match goes
play with those people again or get them on your friends list and maybe they don't care so much if you don't use any consumables
but when you are in a lobby full of strangers it is good to know people are using consumables and using them correctly.

Ah yeah i understand, like i said if you need peace of mind, i wouldnt mind putting it on, i understand if people dont put it on after you ask them itd be a problem or something,

[OrcWhisperer]

Dolun wrote...

modok8 wrote...

Dolun wrote...

Yeah i mean, im not criticizing anyone for their opinions against non consumable users, im just wondering like...you say that no one needs consumables to be effectivein this game, yet people who don't put them on are criticized. If they don't need them then why the hate? Not that i experience this ingame, since most ingame people are quite the opposite and don't care either way.

I just wonder sometimes if the people talking still play with pugs, or play with the BSN "elite" they meet on forums, i'd personally have no problem popping every consumable i have into the matches no matter who is playing as long as i know they want to get it done.

I'm not sure if anyone has said this but it isn't about being effective it is an etiquette thing
It is a show of good faith to put consumables on in a lobby full of people you don't know
it shows you care about where the match goes
play with those people again or get them on your friends list and maybe they don't care so much if you don't use any consumables
but when you are in a lobby full of strangers it is good to know people are using consumables and using them correctly.

Ah yeah i understand, like i said if you need peace of mind, i wouldnt mind putting it on, i understand if people dont put it on after you ask them itd be a problem or something,

best read as a conversation about condoms

Modifié par OrcWhisperer, 28 octobre 2013 - 09:45 .

[Miniditka77]

Dolun wrote...

Yeah i mean, im not criticizing anyone for their opinions against non consumable users, im just wondering like...you say that no one needs consumables to be effectivein this game, yet people who don't put them on are criticized. If they don't need them then why the hate? Not that i experience this ingame, since most ingame people are quite the opposite and don't care either way.

I just wonder sometimes if the people talking still play with pugs, or play with the BSN "elite" they meet on forums, i'd personally have no problem popping every consumable i have into the matches no matter who is playing as long as i know they want to get it done.

The bolded part shows you are missing the point.  It doesn't matter whether you "need" consumables or not - consumables will ALWAYS make you better.  At a minimum, they will always make the match go more quickly and will make you better equipped to clutch waves if it becomes necessary.  Given that, there is simply no excuse for not using consumables, especially when every decent player has plenty of Level 3 consumables to use.

[The Last]

OrcWhisperer wrote...

Dolun wrote...

modok8 wrote...

Dolun wrote...

Yeah i mean, im not criticizing anyone for their opinions against non consumable users, im just wondering like...you say that no one needs consumables to be effectivein this game, yet people who don't put them on are criticized. If they don't need them then why the hate? Not that i experience this ingame, since most ingame people are quite the opposite and don't care either way.

I just wonder sometimes if the people talking still play with pugs, or play with the BSN "elite" they meet on forums, i'd personally have no problem popping every consumable i have into the matches no matter who is playing as long as i know they want to get it done.

I'm not sure if anyone has said this but it isn't about being effective it is an etiquette thing
It is a show of good faith to put consumables on in a lobby full of people you don't know
it shows you care about where the match goes
play with those people again or get them on your friends list and maybe they don't care so much if you don't use any consumables
but when you are in a lobby full of strangers it is good to know people are using consumables and using them correctly.

Ah yeah i understand, like i said if you need peace of mind, i wouldnt mind putting it on, i understand if people dont put it on after you ask them itd be a problem or something,

best read as a conversation about condoms

Rofl, can't believe i set myself up for that.

[The Last]

Miniditka77 wrote...

Dolun wrote...

Yeah i mean, im not criticizing anyone for their opinions against non consumable users, im just wondering like...you say that no one needs consumables to be effectivein this game, yet people who don't put them on are criticized. If they don't need them then why the hate? Not that i experience this ingame, since most ingame people are quite the opposite and don't care either way.

I just wonder sometimes if the people talking still play with pugs, or play with the BSN "elite" they meet on forums, i'd personally have no problem popping every consumable i have into the matches no matter who is playing as long as i know they want to get it done.

The bolded part shows you are missing the point.  It doesn't matter whether you "need" consumables or not - consumables will ALWAYS make you better.  At a minimum, they will always make the match go more quickly and will make you better equipped to clutch waves if it becomes necessary.  Given that, there is simply no excuse for not using consumables, especially when every decent player has plenty of Level 3 consumables to use.

Fair point, here's a question, how fast do you believe a run is sped up by using consumables in a good run as opposed to not using one, and how much will you speed up a bad run (worst case scenario you are clutching 2+ waves).

[DHKany]

Dolun wrote...

No insult intended, but thats you being more of an ass ingame with a chip on your shoulder. Especially when that said player could have every intent on reviving you if you went down

While the people who don't use them as often, are more keen to not care what loadout people use as long as it works. 

Looking at this comment, the people who dont trust people unless they use consumables have more of a chip on their shoulder before games even happen, and are more likely to let that hate affect how they play the match.

For example, Person A hates Person B because they decided not to equip anything but the permanent gear mod before the match...lets say, Grenade Capacity V, as an idea of what i mean by permanent gear.

now, when the match begins, Person A already has the mindset "im not gonna revive him or help him in any way if he dies", while person b has the mindset " Lets do this guys!"

So while the matches go on and person B gets sniped by a phantom or a ravager, cuz sometimes we all dont see them coming which is a harmless mistake, so died quicker than we can respond. If he died right next to you, you wouldn't revive him?

While in the same scenario the other guy would have went through hell and back to revive you no hesitation or rage, and you all got down to your business.

in the Scenario where the person A won't res person b out of hate, person b then gets the message and decides not to revive person A, both ends up wasting all their medigels overtime due to dying and not helping each other out, but person A initiated the standoff.

While i understand where you guys are coming from, person A actually turns out to be less of a team player than person B in that aspect, as well as person A's attitude is less healthy for the team as a whole.

Stop your drama already ffs. If people don't use consumables it's usually the mindset of "hurrdurr gold credits is good credits" rather than "omg im gonna be this guy's medic". Do you even PUG gold/Platinum at all? 90% refuse to stick together, preferring to rather die in the midst of a gold spawn thinking they can tank everything. 

Don't equip consumables, I'm gonna assume you're a cheap-ass leecher who relies on people to carry his sorry ass through gold/platinum. Why should I bother reviving someone who is barely adding to team DPS? Why should I even make a conscious effort to revive someone who isn't committed to the match? They're there for the credits anyways so as long as they get them they(you) shouldn't be ****ing at the guy doing all the heavy lifting. 

[FromTheAlps]

I've stopped kicking players without equipment, because the next one that I get probably doesn't either. Instead I just ignore them. Go down right in front of my feet? Damns given equals the number of consumables used: zero. Even if we wipe on wave 10 with 3 seconds left to finish the hack. I have maxed manifest and I couldn't care less.
Yes, I have very low sympathy for those consumable hoarders.

[Creator Limbs]

Dolun wrote...

flaming

You keep using this word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

[OrcWhisperer]

prostheticlimbs wrote...

Dolun wrote...

flaming

You keep using this word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

can...not...resist...

[The Last]

DHKany wrote...

Dolun wrote...

No insult intended, but thats you being more of an ass ingame with a chip on your shoulder. Especially when that said player could have every intent on reviving you if you went down

While the people who don't use them as often, are more keen to not care what loadout people use as long as it works. 

Looking at this comment, the people who dont trust people unless they use consumables have more of a chip on their shoulder before games even happen, and are more likely to let that hate affect how they play the match.

For example, Person A hates Person B because they decided not to equip anything but the permanent gear mod before the match...lets say, Grenade Capacity V, as an idea of what i mean by permanent gear.

now, when the match begins, Person A already has the mindset "im not gonna revive him or help him in any way if he dies", while person b has the mindset " Lets do this guys!"

So while the matches go on and person B gets sniped by a phantom or a ravager, cuz sometimes we all dont see them coming which is a harmless mistake, so died quicker than we can respond. If he died right next to you, you wouldn't revive him?

While in the same scenario the other guy would have went through hell and back to revive you no hesitation or rage, and you all got down to your business.

in the Scenario where the person A won't res person b out of hate, person b then gets the message and decides not to revive person A, both ends up wasting all their medigels overtime due to dying and not helping each other out, but person A initiated the standoff.

While i understand where you guys are coming from, person A actually turns out to be less of a team player than person B in that aspect, as well as person A's attitude is less healthy for the team as a whole.

Stop your drama already ffs. If people don't use consumables it's usually the mindset of "hurrdurr gold credits is good credits" rather than "omg im gonna be this guy's medic". Do you even PUG gold/Platinum at all? 90% refuse to stick together, preferring to rather die in the midst of a gold spawn thinking they can tank everything. 

Don't equip consumables, I'm gonna assume you're a cheap-ass leecher who relies on people to carry his sorry ass through gold/platinum. Why should I bother reviving someone who is barely adding to team DPS? Why should I even make a conscious effort to revive someone who isn't committed to the match? They're there for the credits anyways so as long as they get them they(you) shouldn't be ****ing at the guy doing all the heavy lifting. 

Ok i admit that first paragraph was funny, but both can go "hurrdurr gold credits is good credits".

On a serious note:

Funny that the people you talk about, ends up doing more "heavy lifting" than you can imagine in pugs.
You have your own experiences, i respect that, but disrespecting everyone who don't use consumables based on bad pugs is just as bad as if i called everyone who cry over equipment uptight a-holes based on some of the posts in this forum.
But hey, i'm not the one to shun either type of player and will happily play with them all to extraction, while you can go and stereotype people who dont use them and lose out on good players. You'd be doing them a favor, don't need "uptight a-holes" in the lobby either, they just play the game and allow others to do the same their own way.

Again, you make an assumption that they arent committed and suck, so you refuse to help them, glad the people in game aren't elitists like you, chances are you'd make a lot of enemies with that line of thinking.

And you must have a lot of friends you play with or you would be very unhappy with the game.

Modifié par Dolun, 28 octobre 2013 - 11:51 .

[Prazza vas Neema]

Ultner wrote...

I've stopped kicking players without equipment, because the next one that I get probably doesn't either. Instead I just ignore them. Go down right in front of my feet? Damns given equals the number of consumables used: zero. Even if we wipe on wave 10 with 3 seconds left to finish the hack. I have maxed manifest and I couldn't care less.
Yes, I have very low sympathy for those consumable hoarders.

I agree with you.

[The Last]

Ultner wrote...

I've stopped kicking players without equipment, because the next one that I get probably doesn't either. Instead I just ignore them. Go down right in front of my feet? Damns given equals the number of consumables used: zero. Even if we wipe on wave 10 with 3 seconds left to finish the hack. I have maxed manifest and I couldn't care less.
Yes, I have very low sympathy for those consumable hoarders.

Ahh well, at least you give them a shot, if they blew it thats on them.

Although if they end up NOT going down and you end up on the ground below their feet and get no res, would you like the same treatment? I highly doubt it.

[DHKany]

Dolun wrote...

Ok i admit that first paragraph was funny, but both can go "hurrdurr gold credits is good credits".

On a serious note:

Funny that the people you talk about, ends up doing more "heavy lifting" than you can imagine in pugs.
You have your own experiences, i respect that, but disrespecting everyone who don't use consumables based on bad pugs is just as bad as if i called everyone who cry over equipment uptight a-holes based on some of the posts in this forum.
But hey, i'm not the one to shun either type of player and will happily play with them all to extraction, while you can go and stereotype people who dont use them and lose out on good players. You'd be doing them a favor, don't need "uptight a-holes" in the lobby either, they just play the game and allow others to do the same their own way.

Again, you make an assumption that they arent committed and suck, so you refuse to help them, glad the people in game aren't elitists like you, chances are you'd make a lot of enemies with that line of thinking.

And you must have a lot of friends you play with or you would be very unhappy with the game.

Good players realise that no consumables is fucking stupid as hell on gold/plat. A good player will have the common sense of "oh hey, this is one of the higher difficulty stages I should PROBABLY PUT ON SOME GEAR THAT CAN HELP ME, YES EVEN THOSE PRECIOUS CONSUMABLES". Also of the 1500~ish gold matches I have played EVERY player without consumables ended up being a liability to the team while people who equip even lvl 1 ammo end up doing MILES better. 

If 1500 gold PUGs show me that every player without consumables does like crap, I can pretty safely assume the rest of my time on ME3 will pretty much be the same. Also why is asking for a person to put on lvl 1 equipment considered being an uptight ahole? Would that make me telling people to get into the goddamn hack, the biggest **** on the planet? What's so wrong with asking a guy to help the TEAM? 


It's funny how you call out me on generalizing when you generalize parts of me as well. Ironing oneself within the same post doesn't exactly put forward a compelling argument. 

[ManRightChea]

So far the gist I have gotten from reading the OP's responses is that the fact that he chooses not to use consumables very likely results in poor overall experiences. The reason I believe this, is that most good players on this game do not trust those that do not use consumables. Like you said, you are well within your right to not use them. However, I am well within my rights to leave and find a lobby where the players are committed.

As someone else said, I see consumable as investment in the success of the match. If one for whatever reason is unwilling to use them, I can only assume they will treat meds, ops, missiles etc the same. That may not always be the case, but I am not a mind reader. If I drop into a lobby with players using mediocre guns etc and no consumables, I'm out. If I drop into the same lobby where those players are using those same mediocre guns (may be all they have) but using good gear to make those guns better, I will do what I can to help them win.  However, on Plat I will not play with people that do not gear up. This situation you describe with the one player wielding level 10 UR's and no gear, is for one exceedingly rare, and overall unlikely. Players with many level X UR's will usually always have plenty of gear.  In truth, NOT gearing up is what I see as the best representation of both selfishness and lack of committment. Them not gearing only opens the door for their ass to leave the match as soon as things get tough.

In truth, if a player puts alot of significance on whether they can spare consumables or not, it tells me that they are not consistently winning. If they were they would have plenty of gear. If those players are new players only buying PSPs and therefore running out of gear, that is their own fault.

Modifié par ManRightChea, 29 octobre 2013 - 01:11 .

[The Last]

DHKany wrote...

Dolun wrote...

Ok i admit that first paragraph was funny, but both can go "hurrdurr gold credits is good credits".

On a serious note:

Funny that the people you talk about, ends up doing more "heavy lifting" than you can imagine in pugs.
You have your own experiences, i respect that, but disrespecting everyone who don't use consumables based on bad pugs is just as bad as if i called everyone who cry over equipment uptight a-holes based on some of the posts in this forum.
But hey, i'm not the one to shun either type of player and will happily play with them all to extraction, while you can go and stereotype people who dont use them and lose out on good players. You'd be doing them a favor, don't need "uptight a-holes" in the lobby either, they just play the game and allow others to do the same their own way.

Again, you make an assumption that they arent committed and suck, so you refuse to help them, glad the people in game aren't elitists like you, chances are you'd make a lot of enemies with that line of thinking.

And you must have a lot of friends you play with or you would be very unhappy with the game.

Good players realise that no consumables is fucking stupid as hell on gold/plat. A good player will have the common sense of "oh hey, this is one of the higher difficulty stages I should PROBABLY PUT ON SOME GEAR THAT CAN HELP ME, YES EVEN THOSE PRECIOUS CONSUMABLES". Also of the 1500~ish gold matches I have played EVERY player without consumables ended up being a liability to the team while people who equip even lvl 1 ammo end up doing MILES better. 

If 1500 gold PUGs show me that every player without consumables does like crap, I can pretty safely assume the rest of my time on ME3 will pretty much be the same. Also why is asking for a person to put on lvl 1 equipment considered being an uptight ahole? Would that make me telling people to get into the goddamn hack, the biggest **** on the planet? What's so wrong with asking a guy to help the TEAM? 


It's funny how you call out me on generalizing when you generalize parts of me as well. Ironing oneself within the same post doesn't exactly put forward a compelling argument. 

Only 1500?, anyways all i play is gold, just leave it at that. I know my strengths and i know my limits. If i do good it shouldnt matter what i put on, at least you know I am getting the job done.

If you have to tell them to get on the hack, thats just a bad player, simple, and that determines how fast the objective is taken.  You aren't asking, you are telling, which are 2 different things.

I do put on lvl 1 equipment on gold from time to time, then the person says "put on lvl 4's" you don't see a problem there?

Even people who tell u WHICH one to put on,

Not to start anything with you man, gonna keep the peace.

[The Last]

ManRightChea wrote...

So far the gist I have gotten from reading the OP's responses is that the fact that he chooses not to use consumables very likely results in poor overall experiences. The reason I believe this, is that most good players on this game do not trust those that do not use consumables. Like you said, you are well within your right to not use them. However, I am well within my rights to leave and find a lobby where the players are committed.

As someone else said, I see consumable as investment in the success of the match. If one for whatever reason is unwilling to use them, I can only assume they will treat meds, ops, missiles etc the same. That may not always be the case, but I am not a mind reader. If I drop into a lobby with players using mediocre guns etc and no consumables, I'm out. If I drop into the same lobby where those players are using those same mediocre guns (may be all they have) but using good gear to make those guns better, I will do what I can to help them win.  However, on Plat I will not play with people that do not gear up. This situation you describe with the one player wielding level 10 UR's and no gear, is for one exceedingly rare, and overall unlikely. Players with many level X UR's will usually always have plenty of gear.  In truth, NOT gearing up is what I see as the best representation of both selfishness and lack of committment. Them not gearing only opens the door for their ass to leave the match as soon as things get tough.

In truth, if a player puts alot of significance on whether they can spare consumables or not, it tells me that they are not consistently winning. If they were they would have plenty of gear. If those players are new players only buying PSPs and therefore running out of gear, that is their own fault.

I don't get where i went wrong when i kept saying "I do use consumable equipment but not all the time" I can say that 50 times over and over yet...fails to get through, even said it in the OP. probably going to be assumed i don't use them in the next posts that pop up due to people not reading.

I use consumable equipment, I am just not like everyone here that completely shuns non consumable users from their lobbies and understand where they come from.

I am also not like the people here on forums and spam use them every match, i use them from time to time, and i use them when asked if at the time i'm NOT using them and they have a problem with it,  i am more likely to use after a great match with players, which is once every few games of gold. 

In the OP i posted a scenario on WHY people supposedly don't use consumables, and i asked if you hate people who don't use them, hate using them with randoms, OR don't care either way. I said i didn't care either way and i asked for your opinions.

while some posts were nice to read because they proved valid points and counterarguments, some were off and directed at me like i don't use them at all which threw in insults, which is not the case and not what I intended at all.

Just clearing that up.

Modifié par Dolun, 29 octobre 2013 - 01:37 .

[ManRightChea]

Not sure if you are responding to only to me or not, but I am not directing my response directly at you, I am just stating how I feel about the matter and what I have experienced in the time I have been a ME player.

Consumable use may not be required by everyone and all of us that have been long term players know what its like to not have a ton of everything (not saying you are new OP), but in truth even level 1's are super common. Consumables are designed to help improve your personal effectiveness. They can only help. I would see not using them as akin to intentionally handicapping yourself, which is not something most are going to understand.

There are many kits that will do just fine without consumables, however players are going to go by their experiences. The experiences of most veteran players is that consumable use represents commitment to the success of the match. Just as how having a high level manifest will garner more trust in your capability. It may not be a perfect system of thought, but it is one driven by experience. When you go against the grain you have to be willing to realize that many are not going to agree with you.

Modifié par ManRightChea, 29 octobre 2013 - 01:51 .

[The Last]

Nah i'm just stating in general man, not to loud you out. As far as i see all of these are valid points in why people should use them.

Depends on what you say by "many". If i ask on the forums, " You must wear consumables" pops up on every single post there is except a minority, but when you go ingame people are less strict about what they do.

That right there interests me, because that would mean that the forums is the minority while the majority of players who don't care either way don't even post on the forums and just play the game.

Why is the 2 so different i wonder.

Modifié par Dolun, 29 octobre 2013 - 02:26 .

[ManRightChea]

Dolun wrote...

Nah i'm just stating in general man, not to loud you out. As far as i see all of these are valid points in why people should use them.

Depends on what you say by "many". If i ask on the forums, " You must wear consumables" pops up on every single post there is except a minority, but when you go ingame people are less strict about what they do.

That right there interests me, because that would mean that the forums is the minority while the majority of players who don't care either way don't even post on the forums and just play the game.

Why is the 2 so different i wonder.

Well forum goers represent a small, dedicated community that exists within a given game. For a person to take the time to join a message board and contribute to the community says alot about how much they care about that game. Those people tend to be the ones that have the most invested in that game and therefore want to what it takes to be their best at that game, or in the case of this gaming forums and many others, do what they can to improve or maintain the state of that game and pass their views on directly to the devs.

Forum goers represent the more passionate minority, as there are hundreds of thousands that also play the game but may not be concerned enough or find it necessary to join a forum for that particular game.

Modifié par ManRightChea, 29 octobre 2013 - 02:33 .