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[NuclearTech76]

I don't mind Plat but the BS factor gets brought up a notch especially if you're off host. I'm more restricted in weapon choices/loadouts as well. I enjoy playing it but after a game or three I'm ready to go back to gold and do stupid stuff.

After 5,000 plus games in this game, I've seen almost every thing this game can throw at a player. I don't feel the need to be restricted to ultrahigh DPS setups and overcome the same tired BS that the game throws at you game after game. I'd rather do inane setups and stupidity at this point but the most important thing to me is playing with people who are having fun at the game.

[palmof40sorrows]

CrashUrStox wrote...

it's not.

It is.

[megabeast37215]

Fortack wrote...

Platinum is like fighting Geth. It gives the player two choices only: Take kits that trivialize everything or something else and get trolled all the time.

Platinum breaks immersion (you'll face the same enemies fighting all factions) and variety (an awful lot of stuff that works perfectly fine on gold turns into crap when you go Platinum).

Boss-mode is neither fun nor challenging.

So true. 

I don't get why the pro-plat crowd won't admit that all it takes to crush Plat is a powerful weapon and the ability to aim it accurately out of right hand advantage. They're fooling themselves if they think it's way harder than Gold... in reality it's only just a little bit harder.

[Caldari Ghost]

palmof40sorrows wrote...

CrashUrStox wrote...

it's not.

It is.

it's not.

[Beerfish]

I very rarely play platinum so I couldn't say. I will say however that if I do play platinum it will reduce the class list I'll play by quite a bit.

[Heldarion]

ManRightChea wrote...

-snip-

 If you really are an elite player, then get your butt into Plat

-snip-

I soloed Platinum in 20 minutes and I don't like it at all. Plus it inevitably spawns Geth Primes at one point or another.

[Ferocious Panda]

I like plat more. Gold isn't really much of a challenge. If you have a good team, even platinum can be too easy or even hard to find enemies.

[megabeast37215]

Ferocious Panda wrote...

ME3MP isn't really much of a challenge.

FTFY

[Supreme Leech]

megabeast37215 wrote...

Ferocious Panda wrote...

ME3MP isn't really much of a challenge.

FTFY

ME3MP sucks. CoD is better.

[Kalas747]

Mass Effect 3 sucks!

Wait, which forums am I in? Can somebody redirect me to facebook or the CoD forums plz?

[TheNightSlasher]

Every now and then, I'd like to have a game without geth primes. Platinum doesn't give me that choice.

Also, I use venom a lot and enjoy ragdolling enemies (singularity, pull, lash, meleeing enemies into the orbit etc.). Again, platinum doesn't give me a lot of opportunities to do that. From the few Plat games I did, I figured out Plat is all about RHA and DPS. Gold offers more chances for being creative/stupid with weapons and builds.

[cato potato]

XFG-65 wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

Ferocious Panda wrote...

ME3MP isn't really much of a challenge.

FTFY

ME3MP sucks. CoD is better.

CoD sucks. Scrabble is better.

[OrcWhisperer]

cato_84 wrote...

XFG-65 wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

Ferocious Panda wrote...

ME3MP isn't really much of a challenge.

FTFY

ME3MP sucks. CoD is better.

CoD sucks. Scrabble is better.

CoD sucks, sitting my bare buttocks on broken glass is better.

[BioWareMod02]

Keep it on topic or I will lock it.

[Cohen le Barbare]

More freedom in gold than in platinum, where it's all about the amount of damage you can dish out in a short period of time.

[Zero132132]

So the consensus seems to be that Platinum is more restrictive in terms of class effectiveness; DPS is absolutely, unambiguously king, and a lot of characters that can still be pretty effective in Gold are pretty meh in Platinum matches. Also, like me, a lot of people seem to hate Primes and their drones.

Surprised about the difficulty debate. I mean, if you use a Harrier TGI or something similar, Platinum doesn't seem much different than Gold, but that health and shieldgate are one frame vs. 0.1 seconds can make a big difference, With OP setups, neither will be that big of a challenge, but Gold games will still go smoother than Platinum games in general.

[capn233]

Because, you know. It's our flag man. And we can't let them take it.

[Fortack]

megabeast37215 wrote...

I don't get why the pro-plat crowd won't admit that all it takes to crush Plat is a powerful weapon and the ability to aim it accurately out of right hand advantage. They're fooling themselves if they think it's way harder than Gold... in reality it's only just a little bit harder.

You can argue that Gold actually is harder than Platinum when factoring in playstyle. Going rambo on Gold, using a stupid build with a crappy gun, and meleeing all things is a lot harder than standing (safely) behind a wall gunning everything down from a distance on Platinum.

[megabeast37215]

Fortack wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

I don't get why the pro-plat crowd won't admit that all it takes to crush Plat is a powerful weapon and the ability to aim it accurately out of right hand advantage. They're fooling themselves if they think it's way harder than Gold... in reality it's only just a little bit harder.

You can argue that Gold actually is harder than Platinum when factoring in playstyle. Going rambo on Gold, using a stupid build with a crappy gun, and meleeing all things is a lot harder than standing (safely) behind a wall gunning everything down from a distance on Platinum.

Also true... But you won't get the pro plat crowd to acknowledge that bc using melee and crap guns isn't 'optimal'.. therefore they can't even fathom doing it.. even if it is quite a bit more challenging than standing behind a right hand advantage corner, shooting their chosen Winfiltrator weapon and/or spamming grenades.

Gold with a melee Human Adept using a Disciple w/ Omniblade AND actually going for melee kills/playstyle IS more difficult than playing Plat with... Let's say... A Salarian Infiltrator with a Black Widow, or a TGI Harrier. It also takes more finesse bc you need to excercise great crowd control to close the gap for Human Adept melee so you don't get downed. Yet... Somehow... Spamming Flamer and shooting a Acolyte/Hurrdurrcane with a lolGeth Trooper somehow takes 'mad MLG 1337 skillz'. 

I don't get it... If plat players want a 'challenge'... Simply stop equipping top tier kits/weapons/builds, and FFS stop using cheese as your answer to a deficient kit. You will get much more challenge and overall mileage out of the game. 

I'm not trying to tell folks how to play the game either, I'm suggesting viable alternatives towards the hunt for 'challenge' other than playing boss spam. Late waves in Cerberus Gold with a melee kit takes much more moxy IMO, dancing in close quarters with 3 Phantoms and a Goon, crowd controlling them with a Falcon/Disciple while smashing their faces... Or you can hide behind a corner and shoot your Harrier.

Modifié par megabeast37215, 29 octobre 2013 - 05:57 .

[Kinom001]

In the end I like Gold over Plat because I can use different kits to varying degrees of success. On Plat it's almost always a kit with big shields and a big gun. I have that equipment but eventually it gets boring. I like to go in with, for example, a Huntress with a Carniflex and enjoy the match, which I can do on Gold.

[Manbearpig]

OrcWhisperer wrote...

cato_84 wrote...

XFG-65 wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

Ferocious Panda wrote...

ME3MP isn't really much of a challenge.

FTFY

ME3MP sucks. CoD is better.

CoD sucks. Scrabble is better.

CoD sucks, sitting my bare buttocks on broken glass is better.

haters gonna hate

[HoochieHamiltoe]

megabeast37215 wrote...

Fortack wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

I don't get why the pro-plat crowd won't admit that all it takes to crush Plat is a powerful weapon and the ability to aim it accurately out of right hand advantage. They're fooling themselves if they think it's way harder than Gold... in reality it's only just a little bit harder.

You can argue that Gold actually is harder than Platinum when factoring in playstyle. Going rambo on Gold, using a stupid build with a crappy gun, and meleeing all things is a lot harder than standing (safely) behind a wall gunning everything down from a distance on Platinum.

Also true... But you won't get the pro plat crowd to acknowledge that bc using melee and crap guns isn't 'optimal'.. therefore they can't even fathom doing it.. even if it is quite a bit more challenging than standing behind a right hand advantage corner, shooting their chosen Winfiltrator weapon and/or spamming grenades.

Gold with a melee Human Adept using a Disciple w/ Omniblade AND actually going for melee kills/playstyle IS more difficult than playing Plat with... Let's say... A Salarian Infiltrator with a Black Widow, or a TGI Harrier. It also takes more finesse bc you need to excercise great crowd control to close the gap for Human Adept melee so you don't get downed. Yet... Somehow... Spamming Flamer and shooting a Acolyte/Hurrdurrcane with a lolGeth Trooper somehow takes 'mad MLG 1337 skillz'. 

I don't get it... If plat players want a 'challenge'... Simply stop equipping top tier kits/weapons/builds, and FFS stop using cheese as your answer to a deficient kit. You will get much more challenge and overall mileage out of the game. 

I'm not trying to tell folks how to play the game either, I'm suggesting viable alternatives towards the hunt for 'challenge' other than playing boss spam. Late waves in Cerberus Gold with a melee kit takes much more moxy IMO, dancing in close quarters with 3 Phantoms and a Goon, crowd controlling them with a Falcon/Disciple while smashing their faces... Or you can hide behind a corner and shoot your Harrier.

Not all of us use OP kits on Platinum. I can comfortably take any kit and do well without the cheese.

[HoochieHamiltoe]

Notorious P I G wrote...

OrcWhisperer wrote...

cato_84 wrote...

XFG-65 wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

Ferocious Panda wrote...

ME3MP isn't really much of a challenge.

FTFY

ME3MP sucks. CoD is better.

CoD sucks. Scrabble is better.

CoD sucks, sitting my bare buttocks on broken glass is better.

haters gonna hate

which call of booty you play PIG?

[megabeast37215]

HoochieHamiltoe wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

Fortack wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

I don't get why the pro-plat crowd won't admit that all it takes to crush Plat is a powerful weapon and the ability to aim it accurately out of right hand advantage. They're fooling themselves if they think it's way harder than Gold... in reality it's only just a little bit harder.

You can argue that Gold actually is harder than Platinum when factoring in playstyle. Going rambo on Gold, using a stupid build with a crappy gun, and meleeing all things is a lot harder than standing (safely) behind a wall gunning everything down from a distance on Platinum.

Also true... But you won't get the pro plat crowd to acknowledge that bc using melee and crap guns isn't 'optimal'.. therefore they can't even fathom doing it.. even if it is quite a bit more challenging than standing behind a right hand advantage corner, shooting their chosen Winfiltrator weapon and/or spamming grenades.

Gold with a melee Human Adept using a Disciple w/ Omniblade AND actually going for melee kills/playstyle IS more difficult than playing Plat with... Let's say... A Salarian Infiltrator with a Black Widow, or a TGI Harrier. It also takes more finesse bc you need to excercise great crowd control to close the gap for Human Adept melee so you don't get downed. Yet... Somehow... Spamming Flamer and shooting a Acolyte/Hurrdurrcane with a lolGeth Trooper somehow takes 'mad MLG 1337 skillz'. 

I don't get it... If plat players want a 'challenge'... Simply stop equipping top tier kits/weapons/builds, and FFS stop using cheese as your answer to a deficient kit. You will get much more challenge and overall mileage out of the game. 

I'm not trying to tell folks how to play the game either, I'm suggesting viable alternatives towards the hunt for 'challenge' other than playing boss spam. Late waves in Cerberus Gold with a melee kit takes much more moxy IMO, dancing in close quarters with 3 Phantoms and a Goon, crowd controlling them with a Falcon/Disciple while smashing their faces... Or you can hide behind a corner and shoot your Harrier.

Not all of us use OP kits on Platinum. I can comfortably take any kit and do well without the cheese.

Of course you can... So can I... But then you and I both are going to take a weapon to make up for the kits DPS deficiency, thus reducing variety in build/kit/weapon selection. 

Are you going take a Volus Vanguard into Plat with a Tempest/Falcon/Carnifex/Disciple melee setup, or are you going to take a Wraith/Reegar/Hurricane/Talon/etc.?

Modifié par megabeast37215, 29 octobre 2013 - 06:13 .

[Geek]

The thing is we have completely broken the game to the point where a team with armored compartments can make it through platinum without ever giving the enemy a chance to fight back. Outside of that there are dozens of ways to make the game completely trivial if you want to. The only to way to add challenge into the mix is to reduce the number of players, play with bad pugs, or use less than optimal loadouts.

Platinum isn't really much harder than gold. The AI is exactly the same. It just comes down to how hard you decide to make it.