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[Nitrocuban]

Daemul wrote...
when they go down I don't even bother reviving them

You are a bad person and you should feel bad.

[Daemul]

Nitrocuban wrote...

Daemul wrote...
when they go down I don't even bother reviving them

You are a bad person and you should feel bad.

I gotta make sure there's enough Medi-Gel for myself man.

[Nitrocuban]

To be honest I died a couple of times reviving my stupid SP team mates and was shocked when I was just dead and "game over" instead of being revived by some other team mate.
MP is hell of a drug, man!

[known_hero]

maaaad365 wrote...

Any team-mate with the ability to equip the Adas is god-like in single-player.

Yeah, they're also a pain in the quad. Too much screen shaking for my taste.

[Blackguard82]

I usually play adepts/vanguards so my fav: ME1: Garrus/Wrex, ME2: Miranda/Grunt, ME3:Liara/Garrus.

[cap and gown]

Blackguard82 wrote...

I usually play adepts/vanguards so my fav: ME1: Garrus/Wrex, ME2: Miranda/Grunt, ME3:Liara/Garrus.

For an adept I go Thane/Miranda. Moar splosions!

[capn233]

Miranda, Garrus is the dream team for ME2.

[jasonxxsatanna]

Great team if you can keep Miranda grom run out into enemy fire

[IceTrey1987]

Probably Liara, Garrus and Kaidan.

I like James on occasion since he's the designated tank of this game. Though he can't tank like Grunt did. Nobody tanks like Grunt. But give James the Claymore or Piranha and he can wreck some stuff.

[RedCaesar97]

IceTrey1987 wrote...

I like James on occasion since he's the designated tank of this game. Though he can't tank like Grunt did. Nobody tanks like Grunt.

That is a good thing, since Grunt cannot tank.

[cap and gown]

Wrex and Grunt can tank in ME3. ME2, not so much. Grunt would fall down flat at the first sight of a Scion.

[CDTheBookMan]

Give me soldier Shepard with Garrus having a fully charged Overload and Proximity Mine combined with---wait for it---JAVIK!! Use Javik's biotics with Garrus' overload, and you'll wipe clean any barriers or shields. Combine that with some consistent Concussive Shots and your enemy probably won't be able to stand for more than 5 seconds. Then, grenades and proximity mines. Riot control: Clean the room. Game over.

[DuskWanderer]

When it comes to usefulness, here's how I find it:

Tier 1
Garrus
Kaidan

Tier 2
Ashley
EDI
James

Tier 3
Tali

Tier 4
Liara

(Unranked)
Javik


Garrus and Kaidan are two of the best, which one is actually better depends on Shepard's class (a biotic prefers Kaidan, Garrus prefers one that isn't). The reason is simple, they can both do anything. Any enemy, any style, any problem, they can fix it, and do a damn good job of it.

EDI also has the skills to get the job done, but since she lacks an assault rifle, she doesn't get much for weapon damage in between her cool-downs.

Ashley is also good, but against armor, she's slower than Kaidan, and her Marksman is glitched, so it's not as effective as it should be. Still, not bad, she's solid.

James is solid and tough, and can really bust through tough enemies.

Tali is great for any mission you require her for, but after that, not really.

Liara is just terrible, she dies very quickly and anything she does, Kaidan does better. Even against armor, I'm better with Garrus on AP ammo and guns, and Kaidan's Reave, then constantly going over to medi-gel Liara so I can possibly get off a Warp before the Ravager knocks her down again.

Javik relies entirely on Shepard. If Shepard has biotic skills (or Kaidan is in the group), then the guy is awesome. If not, he's meh. So, he can't be ranked.

[Balkazar246]

Here I was going to find out wehter to kill Ashley or Kaiden on my 6th play through of ME1. Im leaning towards keeping Ashley because shes way more attractive to seduce in ME3 then Kaiden, he looks like he has crabs or something. Anyways.

When I create a team, I usually go with who will help keep me alive the longest. In my recent play through of ME1, I have used Wrex and Liara the most while I play the Sentinel to keep with the need of electronics. Sadly Liara died alot during the Begining of the game due to no shields, Wrex died less but he was alive the longest even on Veteran mode, havent tested him on Insanity yet.

ME1: Wrex (Max Assault Rifle, Armor, and Barrier power, then towards the end I beefed up his Warp power.

Liara: I maxed Singularity, warp and barrier to try to increase her survivability, unfortunately, she was the weakest BUT! when fighting Thorian creepers who love to attack at once her singularity is a life saver, only towards the end and once you give her the best light armor possible does she truely shine.

I dont use Kaiden, Garrus, Ashley, Tali much at all, as they dont compliment my squad, as I try to make sure I have 1 biotic, 1 soldier, 1 tech type with me at all times. Maybe its my DND side kicking in I dont know.

During my play through of Mass Effect 2, I tried to ensure I played all the characters once but usually its when I Was forced to via there loyalty missions, and I have to say that no matter the squad make up I have. I am a huge fan of...

Grunt, Miranda, Mordin, Thane. The other guys in the ship dont matter, for some real fun I love Tali, shes sweet not in skill set but just in sheer dialogue.

I am not entirely impressed with the others, though I am a fan of Garrus because hes the one guy threw out the series so far you can go to and count on to understand the hardships of command in ME3, he just doesnt impress me for Mass effect 2.

Now, Mass effect 3, WHEW!, now there is no reason just like in ME2 to not have a guy around to pick locks or nothing, which honestly is quite nice .

Only in my play through of Multi player do I really appreciate the power ENERGY DRAIN, as you can drain the shields of a Cerberus Centurion in one go, and then 5 seconds later hit him with everything you got to kill him. This is quite nice power which I have recently fell in love with.

So for my typical team in ME3 I go for a squad that compliments my skill set. This means if I go soldier, then I want to beable to compliment the damage output of not just myself but my team, so I pick team mates who are combat orientated. This permits me to unleash hell and also augment my squad to also unleash hell.

So for a Soldier, I go with Garrus and James or Ashley, Due to the fact people dont think James is that great I used him in an entire play through of the game as a Vanguard and he was able to survive quite well against pretty much everything in the game. As a defensive tank, he survived what I wouldnt survive but he did. Garrus is great as a Sniper so keep him there. Ashley is there mostly for looks but she even without the use of marksmen is quite effective. More so then Kaiden, and James makes a superior tank compared to Kaiden.

I am now playing threw as a Sentinal and I am wondering how well pairing up with EDI and James or EDI and Tali will be, or EDI and Liara. Me I always foremost have an idea of what I want to do when I make a character and try to set things up just right so I have the most allies and advantages in the end game. I also like strange and unique, I give these a shot and if they dont prove to be worth anything then I wont use the character but so far James and EDI havent let me down yet.

But even for ME3, Consider Energy Drain. I mean, each class already has ways of taking down armor and shields, some ways faster then others, but in the end I think Energy drain is way better then Overload but even overload has its purpose.

As for weapons for ME3, Partical Rifle for the assault rifle, sure sucky damage but you dont have to worry about ammo . And my favorite gun of all time recently is the Scorpion, not alot of ammo to it, but it makes for an interesting sniper gun . Only downside is the 4 second delay before BOOM but it will take out shields and armor relatively easily. Locust is also a good SMG due to its close rounds when you fire it, it doesnt spray. The Avenger Rifle is also making a headway for me in both Multi player and in single player. Oldie sure, but it is quite good and doesnt cut into your Recharge time.

If you got the DLC stuff for ME3 look into the Blood pack SMG. That is a quite effective weapon both at long and short range. All in all, the Argus is good but it has too much recoil. I like a gun where you can control the amount of recoil you have like you can with the Avenger. Short bursts, conserve ammo, and your set. Next up from that one is the Vindicator Battle rifle which you first see when you rescue Arch Angel. That is right below the avenger as it does short bursts and doesnt go threw ammo. Mattock rifle could be used if your a soldier and dont care about using powers. The Mattock if I remember right is a Semi auto (1 shot) rifle that is like a sniper rifle, you have tons of ammo and you dont go threw it like you do with a full auto rifle.

PS: Javik to me stinks, EDI and James are your best bet for me Just focus James on tanking and EDI on tech powers and make sure you compliment each other to maximize the percentage of each others abilities . Then you should be good as gold.

My only dislike of ME3 was the fact I didnt have Grunt or Mordin on my team or someone from those species on my team, whew was I angry when I saw there was no Krogan , the other 2 games had a krogan on the team .

Modifié par Balkazar246, 10 janvier 2014 - 04:45 .

[jasonxxsatanna]

Balkazar246 wrote...

Here I was going to find out wehter to kill Ashley or Kaiden on my 6th play through of ME1. Im leaning towards keeping Ashley because shes way more attractive to seduce in ME3 then Kaiden, he looks like he has crabs or something. Anyways.

When I create a team, I usually go with who will help keep me alive the longest. In my recent play through of ME1, I have used Wrex and Liara the most while I play the Sentinel to keep with the need of electronics. Sadly Liara died alot during the Begining of the game due to no shields, Wrex died less but he was alive the longest even on Veteran mode, havent tested him on Insanity yet.

ME1: Wrex (Max Assault Rifle, Armor, and Barrier power, then towards the end I beefed up his Warp power.

Liara: I maxed Singularity, warp and barrier to try to increase her survivability, unfortunately, she was the weakest BUT! when fighting Thorian creepers who love to attack at once her singularity is a life saver, only towards the end and once you give her the best light armor possible does she truely shine.

I dont use Kaiden, Garrus, Ashley, Tali much at all, as they dont compliment my squad, as I try to make sure I have 1 biotic, 1 soldier, 1 tech type with me at all times. Maybe its my DND side kicking in I dont know.

During my play through of Mass Effect 2, I tried to ensure I played all the characters once but usually its when I Was forced to via there loyalty missions, and I have to say that no matter the squad make up I have. I am a huge fan of...

Grunt, Miranda, Mordin, Thane. The other guys in the ship dont matter, for some real fun I love Tali, shes sweet not in skill set but just in sheer dialogue.

I am not entirely impressed with the others, though I am a fan of Garrus because hes the one guy threw out the series so far you can go to and count on to understand the hardships of command in ME3, he just doesnt impress me for Mass effect 2.

Now, Mass effect 3, WHEW!, now there is no reason just like in ME2 to not have a guy around to pick locks or nothing, which honestly is quite nice .

Only in my play through of Multi player do I really appreciate the power ENERGY DRAIN, as you can drain the shields of a Cerberus Centurion in one go, and then 5 seconds later hit him with everything you got to kill him. This is quite nice power which I have recently fell in love with.

So for my typical team in ME3 I go for a squad that compliments my skill set. This means if I go soldier, then I want to beable to compliment the damage output of not just myself but my team, so I pick team mates who are combat orientated. This permits me to unleash hell and also augment my squad to also unleash hell.

So for a Soldier, I go with Garrus and James or Ashley, Due to the fact people dont think James is that great I used him in an entire play through of the game as a Vanguard and he was able to survive quite well against pretty much everything in the game. As a defensive tank, he survived what I wouldnt survive but he did. Garrus is great as a Sniper so keep him there. Ashley is there mostly for looks but she even without the use of marksmen is quite effective. More so then Kaiden, and James makes a superior tank compared to Kaiden.

I am now playing threw as a Sentinal and I am wondering how well pairing up with EDI and James or EDI and Tali will be, or EDI and Liara. Me I always foremost have an idea of what I want to do when I make a character and try to set things up just right so I have the most allies and advantages in the end game. I also like strange and unique, I give these a shot and if they dont prove to be worth anything then I wont use the character but so far James and EDI havent let me down yet.

But even for ME3, Consider Energy Drain. I mean, each class already has ways of taking down armor and shields, some ways faster then others, but in the end I think Energy drain is way better then Overload but even overload has its purpose.

As for weapons for ME3, Partical Rifle for the assault rifle, sure sucky damage but you dont have to worry about ammo . And my favorite gun of all time recently is the Scorpion, not alot of ammo to it, but it makes for an interesting sniper gun . Only downside is the 4 second delay before BOOM but it will take out shields and armor relatively easily. Locust is also a good SMG due to its close rounds when you fire it, it doesnt spray. The Avenger Rifle is also making a headway for me in both Multi player and in single player. Oldie sure, but it is quite good and doesnt cut into your Recharge time.

If you got the DLC stuff for ME3 look into the Blood pack SMG. That is a quite effective weapon both at long and short range. All in all, the Argus is good but it has too much recoil. I like a gun where you can control the amount of recoil you have like you can with the Avenger. Short bursts, conserve ammo, and your set. Next up from that one is the Vindicator Battle rifle which you first see when you rescue Arch Angel. That is right below the avenger as it does short bursts and doesnt go threw ammo. Mattock rifle could be used if your a soldier and dont care about using powers. The Mattock if I remember right is a Semi auto (1 shot) rifle that is like a sniper rifle, you have tons of ammo and you dont go threw it like you do with a full auto rifle.

PS: Javik to me stinks, EDI and James are your best bet for me Just focus James on tanking and EDI on tech powers and make sure you compliment each other to maximize the percentage of each others abilities . Then you should be good as gold.

My only dislike of ME3 was the fact I didnt have Grunt or Mordin on my team or someone from those species on my team, whew was I angry when I saw there was no Krogan , the other 2 games had a krogan on the team .

Yes....James and Edi make a great team my last play thur they were my go to squad lots of fire explosions with them and my soldier shep

[ElementalFury106]

The three best in my opinion are Liara, Garrus, and Kaidan. No matter what class you choose, they're always useful and can help you out immeasurably. If you play a Biotic Shepard...these three are absolutely almighty as squadmates.

Javik is also pretty helpful. He's almost as good as Liara, except his cooldowns are a lot longer than hers, so you cant really spam powers/biotic explosions with him. He's still really good though, great to take on missions where you fight Reapers.

EDI is very useful. She has a tech power for every kind of defense, and Decoy is very underrated. It helps A LOT. I don't prefer her to Garrus in terms of a tech squadmate, but she's definitely a good back up.

Unfortunately I only find Tali good for the Geth missions. She is the absolute BEST in the game for fighting geth, her entire power synergy is designed for destroying and manipulating Geth. Other than that...she's not too useful. Energy Drain and Combat Drone are good powers, but I'd rather choose different squadmates with more variety.

James and Ashley are useless. Neither of them bring anything to the table except grenades and being cannon fodder. If you actually rely on squadmates helping you out by just shooting enemies...you're playing the wrong game. There's basically no tactical synergy with these two. The only good things I can say about them is they have good passives in their personal skill tree line.

So sum it up, here are the ways I'd rather ME3 squadmates based on 1-5.

Liara, Garrus, Kaidan: 5/5

EDI, Javik: 4/5

Tali: 3/5

James: 2/5

Ashley: 1/5

Modifié par ElementalFury106, 12 janvier 2014 - 04:56 .

[The Grey Ranger]

I'd have to disagree with you on Ash. With both disruptor ammo and concussive shot, she can prime or detonate tech explosions.

[ElementalFury106]

The Grey Ranger wrote...

I'd have to disagree with you on Ash. With both disruptor ammo and concussive shot, she can prime or detonate tech explosions.

true enough, though they aren't that powerful. Not as powerful as some of the other tech bursts, you're better off with a different squad mate. 

[capn233]

They are exactly the same power as any other tech burst if they are the same rank.

Also Inferno Grenades prime for FE's, so she is actually pretty decent against every defense.

[Daemul]

Ashley is the only squadmate who can prime AND detonate her own Tech Bursts AND Fire Explosions, not to mention her crazy weapon damage added on top of that. The girl is immense, she's brokenly powerful.

Also, like Capn said her fully maxed out Tech Bursts do the exact same damage as everyone else's.

[capn233]

Daemul wrote...

Ashley is the only squadmate who can prime AND detonate her own Tech Bursts AND Fire Explosions... 

EDI can do that too, actually.

[Abraham_uk]

I think they're all useful.
It really depends what kind of squad mate you're looking for and how they work with your chosen class and build.


As for Liara, yes she did die from time to time (and I was playing on Insanity), but that was when I didn't manage her well. I find that ordering her to stay behind cover distant from the action whilst I drew enemy attention worked well.

Also with Javik or Kaidan, the biotic explosions proved useful. (Though Kaidan + Barrier = slow cool-downs).


Micromanagement is key. If you don't micromanage your squadmates well then expect to solo the higher difficulties. Granted soloing higher difficulties is doable but for me it just wasn't a lot of fun. Part of the fun for me was having both squadmates alive and pausing the game every 2 seconds to send commands.

[JosieJ]

I might as well throw my $0.02 in! 

Since Ashley is alive in only one of the 6 Shepard profiles that made it into ME3, I haven't had as much gameplay with her as I have with the other squadmates.  In my last playthrough with her, I had to admit I underestimated her skills, although if you want to spam "active" powers rather than using her to prime with bullets/grenades, she's not the teammate you want.  I think she meshes especially well with Soldier, Infiltrator or Vanguard Sheps, somewhat less so with active power-spamming Sentinel, Engineer and Adept Sheps.  Still, I'd give her a 9/10 for overall usefulness, which is a lot for me considering how much I dislike her character's personality.

Kaidan I'd give a 10/10: his powers synergize well with whatever class your Shepard is, and also synergize well with whoever your other squadmate is.  No other character fits into the team as smoothly as he does.  Add to that his capacity for damage output--always a welcome addition to the party, even if you rely principally on powers--and his sturdiness.  Obviously, many players do not (and did not) like his personality, but I always felt he was underrated for his skills, usefulness and versatility in ME, and the payoff in ME3 for those who stuck with him is high.

Liara's a 10/10, for the same reasons others have already pointed out: she is massively, awesomely OP.  The only thing weak about her is her health, and it's almost as if the devs had to make her extra squishy just to prevent her from totally breaking the game.  She also has a penchant for leaping into enemy fire, which can be frustrating, although it's not hard to work around.  No other character can lock down the enemy like she can.  

Garrus I'd give a 9/10: he is an awesome tech teammate, and great to pair up with a tech Shepard against whatever enemy type you're confronted with.  He's less useful paired with a biotic Shepard against Reapers, but really, that's the only place he's lacking.  His weapon damage is awesome.

I'm going to be generous and give James a 7/10: he's a very good tank and it takes a lot to bring him down, and his Squad Incendiary Ammo is extremely useful.  However, there is no circumstance in which you could use him where another teammate couldn't do as well or better, maybe not in sheer durability, but in terms of usefulness of powers.

Tali I'd give a 6/10: She becomes available too late in the game to really shine, in my opinion.  She's great against geth, but there are only a few missions where you have to fight them.  She's not bad against Cerberus, especially if you don't have a tech Shepard to Sabotage their turrets--she could have been very useful during the Citadel coup.  She's least useful against Reapers, especially if you already do have a tech Shepard--one Sabotage is enough in that circumstance, and Shep's cooldowns are always going to be better than hers.  

EDI can put out some awesome tech power and can be surprisingly durable.  Despite that, I find her less useful than Garrus (despite the fact that he only has one "true" tech power and EDI has two) and even Tali.  She has Overload and Incinerate, two always-useful powers, but her cooldowns are nothing to write home about unless you leave out Defense Matrix, and I've never been able to find an effective use for Decoy on her character.  She's good paired with a tech Shepard, but in most of the missions where I could take her, I'd rather take Garrus, Kaidan/Ashley or Tali.  I also can't look at her without rolling my eyes.  I don't use her much.  I'd rate her 6/10, and that's giving her extra credit for the usefulness of Overload and Incinerate.

I can't rate most of the DLC characters, as the only DLC I own is Citadel.  I won't go into most of the characters made available through that DLC except to say that it's awesome to fight with Wrex again (and he'll even charge this time!), and that even Reaper Super Elites are laughably trivial when using Liara and Samara together, no matter what class my Shep is!

Modifié par JosieJ, 12 janvier 2014 - 10:51 .

[Daemul]

capn233 wrote...

Daemul wrote...

Ashley is the only squadmate who can prime AND detonate her own Tech Bursts AND Fire Explosions... 

EDI can do that too, actually.

EDI can prime Tech Bursts and Fire Explosions but she can't detonate her own, her Incinerate and Overload share the same cooldown timer and the cooldowns are far too long. Ashleys Concussive Shot however has its own cooldown, she can use it to detonate a combo within the short prime duration time. 

Modifié par Daemul, 13 janvier 2014 - 01:41 .

[capn233]

Daemul wrote...

EDI can prime Tech Bursts and Fire Explosions but she can't detonate her own, her Incinerate and Overload share the same cooldown timer and the cooldowns are far too long. Ashleys Concussive Shot however has its own cooldown, she can use it to detonate a combo within the short prime duration time.

Yes that's true.  I was just thinking about priming and detonating TBs and FEs apparently.