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capn233 wrote...

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EDI can prime Tech Bursts and Fire Explosions but she can't detonate her own, her Incinerate and Overload share the same cooldown timer and the cooldowns are far too long. Ashleys Concussive Shot however has its own cooldown, she can use it to detonate a combo within the short prime duration time.

Yes that's true.  I was just thinking about priming and detonating TBs and FEs apparently.


Ah, ok, sorry for the confusion:blush:

EDI can prime and detonate combos, thats what makes her a very useful ally, but unlike James, Javik, Liara and Ashley she can't start and finish her own combos, it's one or the other with her.

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I think they're all useful.
It really depends what kind of squad mate you're looking for and how they work with your chosen class and build.


As for Liara, yes she did die from time to time (and I was playing on Insanity), but that was when I didn't manage her well. I find that ordering her to stay behind cover distant from the action whilst I drew enemy attention worked well.

Also with Javik or Kaidan, the biotic explosions proved useful. (Though Kaidan + Barrier = slow cool-downs).


Micromanagement is key. If you don't micromanage your squadmates well then expect to solo the higher difficulties. Granted soloing higher difficulties is doable but for me it just wasn't a lot of fun. Part of the fun for me was having both squadmates alive and pausing the game every 2 seconds to send commands.


Reset his powers in the med bay first chance you get and get rid of barrier.

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Kaidan and Miranda are the best squad mates in the trilogy no doubt. They fit perfectly in with any team no matter who you bring.
Try running Armax with both of them on insanity, you won't have any trouble. It's even more fun if your shep is a sentinel too. :wizard:

Modifié par Axdinosaurx, 17 janvier 2014 - 06:48 .


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Shepard Infiltrator + EDI + Garrus = spawn clearing. Everything dies moments after you see it. With EDI I only use her decoy which guarantees I can snipe at will with impunity. Repair matrix guarantees EDI never dies. In fact no one ever dies in this setup. And Garrus just knows what to do on his own (boom headshot). 

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capn233 wrote...

Liara is probably the best all around.

Garrus and Ash benefited greatly from the change to tech explosions, and CS being able to detonate easy FE's. Ash also has Inferno Grenades, while Garrus has Overload and Proxi.

Javik is also good. Liara and Javik are probably the most powerful pair with a biotic Shepard.

EDI is ok.

Tali has a fairly poor skillset. She is probably tied with James for least useful.

Kaidan is usually dead for me, but he is probably between EDI and Garrus.


Tali super poor? Nah. She's very specialized. Her skillset's great for neutralizing tech foes. Meaning Geth and Cerberus. Seeing she can keep an Atlas, Geth Primes, or Turrets locked down completely just by spinning up one skill makes her quite useful, IMHO. Against Reapers even, Energy Drain knocks down barriers and Drones are useful distractions. That said, there are better choices against Organic enemies.

And I'd also say she rocks the CAT6 fights. Her+Wrex= dead Clone. 

I agree with those who say she has to be micromanged. But then so does anyone power-based, IMHO. If you want squaddies you only rarely direct, then of course Garrus and Ash win. 

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That said fairly poor not "super poor."

She is best against Geth, who are the least common enemy. She does not offer much value relative to other squad members against Cerberus or Reapers unless perhaps if you are tech and want another source of Tech Vulnerability. Even so, you can get global debuffs from Garrus's PM/Damage Taken or Liara's Warp/Expose.

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RangerSG wrote...


And I'd also say she rocks the CAT6 fights. Her+Wrex= dead Clone. 


Yeah, Tali is quite good against Cat6. That is when her energy drain and its quick cool down (6.5 seconds) really shine.

Still, the fastest fight I ever had against the clone was with James and Ash (Shepard was a Sentinel). A regular grenade party.

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On my vanguard, probably Javik. Liara's cool too, but I don't like playing with her much for RP reasons. I kind of wish she had Pull like Javik/Jack though. It's a nice quick power you don't need much to get out of. Liara's a bit Crowd Controller heavy (Stasis, Singularity). Nothing wrong, but it's a different playstyle.

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JosieJ wrote...

I might as well throw my $0.02 in! :P

(forgive the snips)

Tali I'd give a 6/10: She becomes available too late in the game to really shine, in my opinion.  She's great against geth, but there are only a few missions where you have to fight them.  She's not bad against Cerberus, especially if you don't have a tech Shepard to Sabotage their turrets--she could have been very useful during the Citadel coup.  She's least useful against Reapers, especially if you already do have a tech Shepard--one Sabotage is enough in that circumstance, and Shep's cooldowns are always going to be better than hers.  



I just had to note than you gave Kaiden a 10/10, and Ash is typically seen similarly high. But your primary hit on Tali is she's available too late. However, she can enter the game exactly 1 jump (and no missions) after the VS permanently joins the team. So excluding the Martian Cameo, you don't gain some massive time in usage for the VS over her.

And there's still hordes of Cerberus to knock down after the coup. So she's hardly lacking for chances to utilize her skills. 

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StreetMagic wrote...

On my vanguard, probably Javik. Liara's cool too, but I don't like playing with her much for RP reasons. I kind of wish she had Pull like Javik/Jack though. It's a nice quick power you don't need much to get out of. Liara's a bit Crowd Controller heavy (Stasis, Singularity). Nothing wrong, but it's a different playstyle.


Uh, Liara can be spec'ed to have a 1.5 second recharge time for Singularity. Faster than Pull. Pull is also inaccurate and can miss, Singularity affects a radius/area and get enemies even if you miss.

I mean, to each their own, but every point you made about pull can be easily be overshadowed by Singularity.

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ElementalFury106 wrote...

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On my vanguard, probably Javik. Liara's cool too, but I don't like playing with her much for RP reasons. I kind of wish she had Pull like Javik/Jack though. It's a nice quick power you don't need much to get out of. Liara's a bit Crowd Controller heavy (Stasis, Singularity). Nothing wrong, but it's a different playstyle.


Uh, Liara can be spec'ed to have a 1.5 second recharge time for Singularity. Faster than Pull. Pull is also inaccurate and can miss, Singularity affects a radius/area and get enemies even if you miss.

I mean, to each their own, but every point you made about pull can be easily be overshadowed by Singularity.


Is that the rank 6 skill for her?

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Yes, Liaras' rank 6 passive has the option of giving an 100% bonus to Singularity' s recharge time.

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StreetMagic wrote...

ElementalFury106 wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

On my vanguard, probably Javik. Liara's cool too, but I don't like playing with her much for RP reasons. I kind of wish she had Pull like Javik/Jack though. It's a nice quick power you don't need much to get out of. Liara's a bit Crowd Controller heavy (Stasis, Singularity). Nothing wrong, but it's a different playstyle.


Uh, Liara can be spec'ed to have a 1.5 second recharge time for Singularity. Faster than Pull. Pull is also inaccurate and can miss, Singularity affects a radius/area and get enemies even if you miss.

I mean, to each their own, but every point you made about pull can be easily be overshadowed by Singularity.


Is that the rank 6 skill for her?


Indeed it is

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ME1:Tali and Wrex ME2: Legion and Grunt ME3: Garrus and Liara. That's my opinion of the best squadmates.

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IMO it depeding on class and mission you have play on.

For my adept Shepard...Liara is always my first choice.

Garrus or EDI (overload work well to drain shield) is my second.

James is tank so I m select him in some mission.

I rarely use Ashley and Tali

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mesiasmith wrote...

IMO it depeding on class and mission you have play on.

For my adept Shepard...Liara is always my first choice.

Garrus or EDI (overload work well to drain shield) is my second.

James is tank so I m select him in some mission.

I rarely use Ashley and Tali


You should try using Ash more she is very deadly , I don't rely on her marksman ability, but inferno nades and put a great sniper rifle in her hands with disruptor ammo she goes to town, or put almost any AR in her hands ...she does great with it 

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Simply put: whoever deals a lot of damage and doesn't need to be micro'ed all day without getting knocked out. In other words: Wrex, Grunt, Ashley, James. I used all characters, Zaeed was nice, Garrus saw a lot of action and, by god, Miranda was my fave in ME2. Besides that, I rarely used pure biotics, 'cause they have a tendency to go down too easily. Also Tali - as soon as I got EDI, I rarely used Tali anymore, mostly because she has the nasty habit of doing a Leeroy Jenkins. Even when ordered not to do so.
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CptData wrote...

Simply put: whoever deals a lot of damage and doesn't need to be micro'ed all day without getting knocked out. In other words: Wrex, Grunt, Ashley, James. I used all characters, Zaeed was nice, Garrus saw a lot of action and, by god, Miranda was my fave in ME2. Besides that, I rarely used pure biotics, 'cause they have a tendency to go down too easily. Also Tali - as soon as I got EDI, I rarely used Tali anymore, mostly because she has the nasty habit of doing a Leeroy Jenkins. Even when ordered not to do so.


I found Miranda's skill was good but in ME2 she had the nasty habit of breaking cover and run out in the middle of the fire fight ...... I seem to remeber having to micro-manage her a lot.

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jasonxxsatanna wrote...

CptData wrote...

Simply put: whoever deals a lot of damage and doesn't need to be micro'ed all day without getting knocked out. In other words: Wrex, Grunt, Ashley, James. I used all characters, Zaeed was nice, Garrus saw a lot of action and, by god, Miranda was my fave in ME2. Besides that, I rarely used pure biotics, 'cause they have a tendency to go down too easily. Also Tali - as soon as I got EDI, I rarely used Tali anymore, mostly because she has the nasty habit of doing a Leeroy Jenkins. Even when ordered not to do so.


I found Miranda's skill was good but in ME2 she had the nasty habit of breaking cover and run out in the middle of the fire fight ...... I seem to remeber having to micro-manage her a lot.

Yep. Miranda LOVES to jump on top of crates and spray with the SMG. Doesn't matter that this usually kills her in 5 secs flat.

Especially since she REALLY loves to do this with YMIRs. :pinched:

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Liara is probably the best all around.

Garrus and Ash benefited greatly from the change to tech explosions, and CS being able to detonate easy FE's. Ash also has Inferno Grenades, while Garrus has Overload and Proxi.

Javik is also good. Liara and Javik are probably the most powerful pair with a biotic Shepard.

EDI is ok.

Tali has a fairly poor skillset. She is probably tied with James for least useful.

Kaidan is usually dead for me, but he is probably between EDI and Garrus.

 

This. Tali has 2, not 1, but TWO powers related to Drones.

 

And then, 1 energy Drain...

 

They could specc her like, I dunno Mordin in ME2. Neural Shock, Incinerate and Cryo Blast(or Drain Shields/Overload in someplace)



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ME1: Wrex, Garrus and Tali for me. A mixture of the 3. Never really need Ashley, Kaidan's good but...eh. Idunno. Liara's also very good for biotics to disable stuff but at the same time, kind of removes the challenge if you just slap everything all over the place with biotics. ...Then again having Wrex is almost cheating considering how tanky he is.

 

ME2: Depends on the class. Vanguard? Need armor/shield/barrier strippers. Otherwise wade through enemies left and right with charge. Sentinel? Pfft who needs squadmates as a Sentinel? Video pretty much explains it. Is less effective against non-shielded enemies but can still be done; can fallback on tech/biotic skills if necessary. Soldier I tend to like having snipers so Thane, Garrus, Legion or Zaeed. Engineer, prefer people who can hit hard, so, snipers again.  Combat Drone keeps aggro on the nasties so that leaves space to shoot stuff without worries of dying from said dude. Sidenote, even though the cooldown is long, Tali and Legion's drones have saved me more than once on Insanity. Stupid scions and Harbinger...

 

Have yet to play through 2 on Insanity as an Adept or Infiltrator so I'm not sure. I imagine biotic users for Adept and not sure it'll matter as Inf since cloak can dunk things' health/armor/shields/barriers.

 

ME3: Depends on class again. Vanguard, squadmates aren't really necessary. A combo of charge, Nova and shooting your weapon usually handles everything. Sentinel, slap on Fortification as the bonus power, go full tank melee build and you pretty much can't die so squadmates aren't a big deal here either. You're slower at killing stuff than say, a Vanguard who can jump across the battlefield but you are stupidly hard to kill. Soldier can dunk things with little to no problem due to Incendiary Ammo so squadmates don't necessarily matter here either. Same for Infiltrator. Then again the Inf style I play is shotgun/AR Inf instead of snipe.

 

Engineer is a bit different. Does alright alone but excels with squadmates to help prime/detonate. So Tali, EDI and Garrus are really great for that for me, though Garrus is just great all-around in 3. Using James feels like cheating on any playthrough as any class if you slap the Typhoon on him. Same for any AR user, just less so cause of James' Incendiary Ammo. Otherwise James and Ashley fall a bit short compared to others for me(maybe it's preference, but those 2 characters were always...okay for me, nothing special). Though I will say, Tali is least useful in ME3 for most classes for me cause the defense drone's pretty much useless. Combat Drone's...decent and Energy Drain's good. Sabotage is amazing though for Engineer Shepards. Use that with the tech damage taken(Shep can use it too to keep it rolling on different enemies) and stuff just dies to overload, incinerate(cryo blast enhanced incinerate even better). Otherwise I bring Tali along if she's romanced in the playthrough, which she usually is.

 

Edit: Forgot to list Adept Shepard for ME3 but I've yet to play through it as one. I assume I'd use Liara, Kaidan and Javik 90% of the time.

 

TL;DR: The N7 Typhoon is OP. As is Wrex.



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James has Carnage, which can kill a lot of enemies in one hit but recharges very slowly, especially if he has activated Fortification. You can try repurposing him as a sniper by giving him the M-99 Saber, though this makes it all the more important that you switch him to his shotgun when necessary. James doesn't have a great shield-stripping ability, but he brings excellent durability and good weapon damage. He is the best bait for enemies like Banshee or Brutes.

 

Ashley. I recently started a game with her in it for the 1st time. She has decent crowd control with Concussive Shot and Inferno Grenades, as well as a sniper rifle. She also has rapid fire capabilities from her assault rifle, but she's less durable than James and Kaidan. You'll want to emphasize sniper rifle bonuses in her build, so that she will tend to stay in cover. Disruptor Ammo upgraded for stun and for sharing with squad members will give your whole group some anti-shield and light crowd control.

 

Kaidan's powers let him counter shields, barriers and armor and he provides decent firepower if he uses his assault rifle. With help of Barrier and getting his cooldown reduction costume to counter Barrier's penalty not only he deals highest damage among biotic squad members, he provides substantial bonus power damage to other squad mates as well, making him the best to take with squads focused on power usage. Thanks to Reave's protection buff and Barrier he is the 2nd tankiest squad mate after James.

 

Liara lacks firepower and durability, and some of her powers are devalued by shields. But Singularity and Stasis all but guarantee a dead enemy, especially to a player with good aim. Don't Evolve warp's damage! Warp with the Expose evolution will help against the many armored opponents. Re-spec her Stasis with bubble to be able to grab even shielded enemies from behind cover. A biotic Shepard can combo with her Warp and other powers to create instant and frequent biotic explosions even against shielded and armored enemies. Liara's damage is low but due to low cooldowns and good crowd controls she is an OK squadmate especially with adept shepard.

 

Garrus has similar weaknesses to Ashley, in that he either hits slowly or exposes himself to oncoming fire, but with a fully upgraded sniper rifle he can do substantial damage, even on Insanity. Micromanaging his equipped weapon choice is critical--either that, or have a third member who can respond quickly while your sniper is reloading. Overload with the Chain and Neural Shock upgrades provides crowd-control and anti-shield capabilities.

 

EDI, like Kaidan, can handle both shields and armor, but lacks some of his tankiness and firepower. Her Decoy can be deployed for crowd control, particularly with groups of small enemies. She can prime both fire explosions and tech bursts if the team has a generic detonator such as Concussive Shot or Carnage. If you bring her, make sure to max her Defense Matrix and keep it active, thus providing her with decent durability.

 

Tali has decent crowd control and damage output via drones and shotguns, but their short range exposes her durability issues. If you bring her, make sure to max out her Energy Drain.

 

Javik comes with decent firepower from his assault rifle. This is especially true if you've equipped him with the Particle Rifle. His Lift Grenades will provide substantial disruption of groups of lesser enemies, and he can prime multiple biotic explosions with Dark Channel. Because a single cast of Dark Channel will jump to a new enemy if the first one dies, a Shepard with the fast-recharging Throw will find Javik to be a valuable squadmate. Javik is unable to burst a target down which is his main weakness, he deals damage gradually.



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Liara, Grunt, Miranda.

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Engineer Shep w/ Inferno Grenades doesn't need squadmates. >:D

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Liara & Javik is easy mode.


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