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#1
Duckman20

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Alright, i'm not sure if it would be acceptable to ask for specific help in this forum or anything, but i'm having quite a problem with a specific part in this game. The broodmother actually has me at a standstill, and my ignorance towards the game may be more to blame than the actual boss. First of all, this is the first part of the game i've been stuck in. Also, given my save point, I only have one potion left and that really isnt going to work given what the broodmother is capable of. I also am not very savvy on the 'magic' capabilities in the game, as I have a warrior, so I dont have anyone in my party capable of any good magic.
So..I'm stuck without a quick way to switch party members,
and stuck without a way to get any potions..

Any help would be appreciated,
dragon age is a great game but unfortunately I am new to RPG's
and my novice disability handicaps me just a little bit.

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use blizzard tempest inferno blood wound etc. on brood mother, then have your warrior whack down on it while having mage cast spells like those around the area, and lower difficulty.. idk what to tell you since you gave no info on your party

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Attack with all of your characters highlighted! Hit the tenacles first and than the broodmother! Just focus your attack with all members supporting you! If you still cannot beat it, bounce the game setting to easy, save it, fight, win, and reset to normal or what ever you were using.



Good luck!



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EthanDirtch

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hmm, well, if you're out of potions, there are a couple of avenues available to you: craft (provided you had the recipes and components), or go back out to Orzammar. It won't penalize you for leaving, and there won't be any new enemies between the Broodmother and Orzammar.



For me I needed to make judicious use of pausing and micro-managing each of my party members. I also had Shale with all 4 Stone Aura spells unlocked which meant most of the aggro was on her, as well as Oghren with his taunt/threaten spells.



I personally would not be able to do this fight without at least Wynne in my party. But I'm sure others have strategies around that.

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Realmzmaster

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You did not give information on your party's composition, but if you have range attack capability use it. Your PC and companions (except dog and mages) should be equipped with a range weapon. Stand on the rock right in front of the Broodmother.

You may have to switch to melee weapons to take care of the darkspawn that attack you and switch back. Do not leave the rock. Or use the stone ramps on either side of the broodmother, your mages can throw your AOE spells from there as Spiritage stated.

Take your companions healed. The broodmother's health will start to decline. Ignore the tentacles if you can. Concentrate on the broodmother.

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SusanStoHelit

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In the longer term, you should check in the character builds section for some ideas of how to build different characters, especially mages, and what spells/talents are useful/effective. Also check what equipment your pc and companions have, and try to optimise that. You need to set up your party so that it is able to dish out damage - but also to survive tough fights.

What strategy/tactics will work best for you against the broodmother depends on how your party is equipped and who you have with you. So, you're a warrior - are you a tank? or a dw/dps? or an archer? Who else is with you and what talents do you have?

In general, though, concentrate on the tentacles first and take them out. Use ranged attacks (magic, staff, bow, bombs) if you can or if you have them. AoE spells can help, crowd control can also be helpful when the darkspawn turn up. Healing is also very important, so you need healing poultices, or good healing spells from your mages, or buffs for defence from a bard, a mage, or a warrior.

Concentrating on the broodmother first can be effective, but you need the right set up for that. Try to avoid the broodmother's poison ranged attacks if you're low on healing. Standing on the ramp just past her will mean she can't reach you (she can't move). Attack from there if you have enough ranged abilities. If you don't, run up there until you heal up and recover. Run down and attack, take out some enemies, then retreat again. Only the darkspawn will be able to follow you.

The broodmother scenario is tough, but doable. If necessary, go back to Ruck, or to Orzammar, to get the supplies you need. You can leave and come back. But once you get to the anvil that's not possible. Don't go into that fight underequipped and unprepared.

Modifié par SusanStoHelit, 20 janvier 2010 - 05:09 .


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What is your team setup? I personally see no difference from normal to nightmare on that thing. Just leave Wynn set to heal and protect herself nothing else (put her on the rock and have her auto chug lyrium in the tactics section.). Oghren by now should be waring the full set of armor, Legion of the Dead, collected in the Dead Trenches and equiped with Forge Masters hammer +I think it is called+ also acquired in the trenches. Focus fire everything you have at her ignore the tenticles, the tenticles are more of an annoyance nothing else, treat them that way... and go for the eyes Boo (and set your game to easy, you have 1 healing pot... keep the game on easy because your life will not get any better after that fight, especially with only one pot :P )


Also seeing you are new to rpgs (DA:O in particular),  learning experience, part of their long replayability. Get Mori sleep and nightmare line plus cone of cold asap and make your life a whole lot easier on any difficulty setting. Set sleep and nightmare to be used on your tank being attacked by melee in tactics and use cone of cold manually.

Modifié par Wompoo, 20 janvier 2010 - 06:19 .


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Tikonov

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Stick the game onto easy mode for now till you get your characters/gear sorted? you can literally play the game with your characters naked on that difficulty

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Duckman20 wrote...

Alright, i'm not sure if it would be acceptable to ask for specific help in this forum or anything, but i'm having quite a problem with a specific part in this game. The broodmother actually has me at a standstill, and my ignorance towards the game may be more to blame than the actual boss. First of all, this is the first part of the game i've been stuck in. Also, given my save point, I only have one potion left and that really isnt going to work given what the broodmother is capable of. I also am not very savvy on the 'magic' capabilities in the game, as I have a warrior, so I dont have anyone in my party capable of any good magic.
So..I'm stuck without a quick way to switch party members,
and stuck without a way to get any potions..

Any help would be appreciated,
dragon age is a great game but unfortunately I am new to RPG's
and my novice disability handicaps me just a little bit.


In your current predicament (if you dont have a mage with good healing skills), you should turn back and go to camp or back to Orzammar and replenish health stocks, then come back to defeat Broodmother.

But she is way easier to kill if you concentrate on her tenctacles one by one before engaging her. At least that works for me.

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ranged party is key, even alistair if he is your tank, give him a crossbow or something and he can help plink and plunk her health down as well

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I didn't think you could retreat from this fight once it started; it looked to me like the passage up to this room had an invisible wall. Is this correct? It must have taken me 10 tries to take her out (and I finally did it with only my PC standing); it would have been great to be able to take a breather.

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saxo_g wrote...

I didn't think you could retreat from this fight once it started; it looked to me like the passage up to this room had an invisible wall. Is this correct? It must have taken me 10 tries to take her out (and I finally did it with only my PC standing); it would have been great to be able to take a breather.


Yes you could be right. Hopefully he has a save before he gets into the Branca scene.

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I did okay with Broodbabe (three tries) using me, Oghren, Morrigan and Wynne. The mages were an absolute necessity. I'm at Level 14.



Now I need help. Moving on the the golem battle, whether siding with the big guy or opposing him, I simply cannot, even on "Easy", get anywhere close to winning that battle.



I assume there is a control rod in the chest by the bridge, but fire stops me from getting it. I'm using me, Alistair, Morrigan and Oghren. No matter who I try to protect, the others are surrounded and whacked in seconds.



Still level 14, but with the dwarf chick splitting into two or three iterations and half a dozen bad golems, I can't even get close. The golems that get on my side when I side with the big guy fall pretty quickly and seem to have no tactics. Is my party wrong? Do I need to go back and get Wynne? I can't see Sten, dog or any of the others being any better than who I currently. While waiting for a reply, I'll go back and get Wynne, but...*sigh* Help?



ANY help would be very much appreciated.

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Belarc wrote...

I did okay with Broodbabe (three tries) using me, Oghren, Morrigan and Wynne. The mages were an absolute necessity. I'm at Level 14.

Now I need help. Moving on the the golem battle, whether siding with the big guy or opposing him, I simply cannot, even on "Easy", get anywhere close to winning that battle.

I assume there is a control rod in the chest by the bridge, but fire stops me from getting it. I'm using me, Alistair, Morrigan and Oghren. No matter who I try to protect, the others are surrounded and whacked in seconds.

Still level 14, but with the dwarf chick splitting into two or three iterations and half a dozen bad golems, I can't even get close. The golems that get on my side when I side with the big guy fall pretty quickly and seem to have no tactics. Is my party wrong? Do I need to go back and get Wynne? I can't see Sten, dog or any of the others being any better than who I currently. While waiting for a reply, I'll go back and get Wynne, but...*sigh* Help?

ANY help would be very much appreciated.


when i played dragon age with mages i immopbolize any Yellow or up enemy with any type of skill that stops them attacking or moving even if its ju7st for a few seconds wipe out the white enemies and then if the boss chases one char run away with them they wont change target until they are attacked just kite them till they are being attacked by the entire party

also in that room theres raw lyrium use that to fully regen health and mana/stam

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First select the game on easy from the options menu, press esc and reselect this

Here who I bring with me to take down Brood Mother,

Morrgian - Her Vun Hex provides chance for extra damage to be done. I also equp her with one spirt talent and that is "Heal" pretty much use her as an off healer and a dpser on the brood mother. Also her "Mind Blast" works great when Brood Mother foes come

Wynn- Use her group heals, her bringing back a fallen party member. As well as her buffs. She will play the part of your healer, focus her mostly on healing

Shale or Allister- Shale can be a good tank, stacked with unsual spells or ablity. Allister is an arlight tank he has some bonus. Personally I'd stack Shale as the tank and have him just beat on brood mother while Wynn heals him

Now depends on you, if you are a rogue, stay on the side of the Brood Mother and have Morrgian use Mind Blast if foes start to come in on you

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@Belarc,
There is no control rod in the chest.  Have Morrigan  use the lyrium viens to restore mana. Focus on one golem at a time. Take the golems out first then concentrate on Branka. Or concentrate only on Branka with your party keeping them healed. Focus your attacks. Be careful of the golems if you focus on Branka first. Branka hits like a truck and will split into three Brankas with different health levels if she gets access to a lyrium vein.
The spliltting happens at a certain health level. If this happens concentrate on the Branka with the least amount of health. If you kill one Branka the others disappear.
You can have your PC or companion race to a lyrium vein if it gets to low on health, but you will have to break off attacking with that character. Also note that the veins take time to recharge. If you have healing potions available, use them that way you can keep attacking.
If Branka focuses on the PC or companion use that character and have Branka chase him/her around while your other companions keep attacking.
Be careful with AOE spells, since on normal or above your can get friendly fire effects. Friendly fire does not occur on easy mode.
Spells and runes that paralyze are good. Note that pertify does not work on golems. Also remember dwarves have a 10% natural resistance to hostile magic.
The fight is doable with your current setup. The battle will require micromanagement. I notice that you took Wynne out of the party after the Broodmother. You could have used her to heal unless you have Morrigan with a heal spell.

Modifié par Realmzmaster, 22 janvier 2010 - 12:16 .


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Belarc

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Thanks to all. I finally got it done. I used almost every piece of advice you guys offered. Again...thanks!