Why are there so many necromancers crawling around BSN lately...
OT: Tac Cloak is definitely OP, but it is in a way where you would have to completely rework the mechanics of the game to balance TC without making it obsolete, but still bringing it in line. Actual stealth mechanics with AI that is more intelligent than a cardboard box would be a great start.
Would tactical cloak be balanced if you couldn't use any powers at all under cloak?
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#152
Posté 22 décembre 2013 - 10:22
Sinapus
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Amusing since I've been in a few matches where my non-infiltrator was with three infiltrators and that character bereft of the almighty "OP" tactical cloak was either the one who died the least or didn't die at all.
It depends on who's playing. A bad player will still die despite the "OP" advantage tactical cloak gives while better players will learn how to use the abilities and contribute to the match.
It depends on who's playing. A bad player will still die despite the "OP" advantage tactical cloak gives while better players will learn how to use the abilities and contribute to the match.
#153
Posté 22 décembre 2013 - 04:30
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Heeeeey where have I heard this before? Oh right I said it. LOLFatherOfPearl wrote...
If grenade use breaks cloak, then that would be a decent way to reduce it's OP-ness. It would still wind up being nerfed, but it would be better than being able to spam all of them for stupid amounts of damage.Kislitsin wrote...
Well, what if grenade use also uncloak? Can he haz MFGs?FatherOfPearl wrote...
Multifrags - 4a, 5b, 6a = 1417.5 (per grenade) x 5 = 7087.5
- 665 damage (x 5 = 1995)
- 787.5 damage (x 5 = 3937.5) after passives
- 1417.5 (x 5 = 7087.5) after 80% cloak bonus
4a, 5b, 6b = 1732.5 (per grenade) x 3 = 5197.5
- 840 damage (x 3 = 2520)
- 962.5 (x 3 = 2887.5) after passives
- 1732.5 (x 3 = 5197.5) after 80% cloak bonus
Better, but still OP in my opinion.
And I remind you, 500 shields (750 w cyclonics IV), shieldgated while cloaked (which makes a live of AR-infiltrator much less easy).
8. All power casts break cloak (throwing grenades, repair matrix, stim packs, prox mine, etc).
#154
Posté 22 décembre 2013 - 06:30
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Bad players with perform badly no matter what they use. When I say TC is brokenly OP it is more because it breaks the recharge speed weight mechanic that is in the game, and it has caused certain powers that are shared between classes to be nerfed hurting the non-infiltrator, and barely tickling the infiltrator (i.e. GI & GE, TGI & Turian Havoc)Sinapus wrote...
Amusing since I've been in a few matches where my non-infiltrator was with three infiltrators and that character bereft of the almighty "OP" tactical cloak was either the one who died the least or didn't die at all.
It depends on who's playing. A bad player will still die despite the "OP" advantage tactical cloak gives while better players will learn how to use the abilities and contribute to the match.
#155
Posté 22 décembre 2013 - 11:33
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BSN has stooped so low, I can't even tell trolling from stupidity anymore. We need new blood, or better yet, new ME game. Speaking of which, I heard a rumor ME4 beta is starting in January. Can anyone confirm?
#156
Posté 22 décembre 2013 - 11:38
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Lol.Mad Scientist wrote...
BSN has stooped so low, I can't even tell trolling from stupidity anymore. We need new blood, or better yet, new ME game. Speaking of which, I heard a rumor ME4 beta is starting in January. Can anyone confirm?
News that the game was even playable just came last week, no way a demo would come out so quickly after that. If any demos for a BW game come out in January, it'll be DA:I
@Shadohz I missed that, and Proxy Mine already breaks cloak.
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#157
Posté 22 décembre 2013 - 11:51
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I specifically said BETA, not demo. You release a demo when you have finished product. Beta is product still in development. If game is playable it's probably in early alpha stage, so it's not out of realm of possibility it can be in beta stage in late January.
Btw, typing the above made me realize how spot on was my previous post. I miss the old BSN.
Btw, typing the above made me realize how spot on was my previous post. I miss the old BSN.
#158
Posté 23 décembre 2013 - 12:36
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Mad Scientist wrote...
I specifically said BETA, not demo. You release a demo when you have finished product. Beta is product still in development. If game is playable it's probably in early alpha stage, so it's not out of realm of possibility it can be in beta stage in late January.
Btw, typing the above made me realize how spot on was my previous post. I miss the old BSN.
I highly doubt that any beta, demo, ect. for ME4 would come out before DA:I launches. We probably won't be seeing anything like that until sometime late 2014 at best, but probably not even until 2015.
