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[DesioPL]

Come on! Everybody knows, that The Dark Below is next WoW expansion...

The question is... What we can get in this expansion? There is rumors, that TDB will be concentrated on Azshara and N'Zoth.

For those, who don't recognize Warcraft series.

Azshara.

Former Highborne queen and currently empress of Nazjatar. She have apperance in Cataclysm Darkshore chain quest, but her role is little. There is a rumors, that Azshara and her nagas are slaves of N'Zoth.

N'Zoth.

One of five old gods in Azeroth. He is responsible for Neltharion corruption, and twisting Azshara and her followers from Night Elves to Nagas. N'Zoth was mentioned many times in Cataclysm, but not appear... Only Warlord Zon'Ozz appear with his Faceless Ones armies. Also there is a rumors that N'Zoth, may be a Ny'Alotha.

Modifié par DesioPL, 01 novembre 2013 - 08:13 .

[Liamv2]

I thought WoW was mostly dead nowadays along with every other MMO.

[DesioPL]

Liamv2 wrote...

I thought WoW was mostly dead nowadays along with every other MMO.

WoW still lives, but number of players is slowly getting down. Some players mentioned, that Mists Of Pandaria was better than Cataclysm... But still not what they want.

[Cyonan]

Only World of Warcraft could be called dead while being the most popular MMO out there with 7 million players.

The main possibilities I see for the expansion are:

> Aszhara and the Naga
> Saregeras and the Burning Legion
> Emerald Nightmare

Judging from name alone, it would sound like the first one assuming that's the actual name for it. I've heard too many rumours about TDB trademark to be going one way or the other.

Story wise however, they do some stuff in MoP that sets things up for a second round with the Burning Legion, and I could see them wanting to play off the nostalgia a lot of players have for BC.

In addition to N'Zoth, there is also one more old god which is unaccounted for.

[Endurium]

I got rid of WoW when cross-realm zones hit. That and it doesn't make sense to continue subbing to a 10 year old mmo when I have GW2 to play on days I want an mmo fix.

Also a bit tired of warcraft's constant "corruption" plots. Everything with the writers (esp. Metzen) has been "corruption" and "taint" since King Leoric in Diablo, if not before that.

For those that cling to WoW, hopefully this expansion is fun for you.

[DesioPL]

Cyonan wrote...

Only World of Warcraft could be called dead while being the most popular MMO out there with 7 million players.

The main possibilities I see for the expansion are:

> Aszhara and the Naga
> Saregeras and the Burning Legion
> Emerald Nightmare

Judging from name alone, it would sound like the first one assuming that's the actual name for it. I've heard too many rumours about TDB trademark to be going one way or the other.

Story wise however, they do some stuff in MoP that sets things up for a second round with the Burning Legion, and I could see them wanting to play off the nostalgia a lot of players have for BC.

In addition to N'Zoth, there is also one more old god which is unaccounted for.

I agree... MoP shows that also return of Burning Legion is possible, since Kil'Jaeden and Sargeras still lives... But most command structure of the legion is wiped out. Tichondrius, Mannoroth, Azgalor or just Kael'Thas are dead now. I think the commanders now would be.

Sargeras - Creator of the Burning Legion.
Mephistroth - Leader of the Nathrezim.
Kil'Jaeden - Main commander of Legion forces.
Mal'Ganis - Second in command, also adjutant for Mephistroth.
Balnazzar - Third in command.

Why i suggest Mal'Ganis and Balnazzar? 

Balnazzar is only vanquished from Azeroth, but he still lives... It's really difficult to kill Nathrezim... The only one who is dead, is Tichondrius from Illidan hands.

Mal'Ganis promise the vengeance in WOTLK expansion in Icecrown quests.

However... Emerald Dream is also possible, but this is fan favorite expansion. I think we can venture to Emerald Dream, but as a instance in The Dark Below. Also Ra'Den words may suggest TDB.

About technical issues. Yeah i heard also alot of negative opinions about cross-realms or LFR / Flexible Raids. For me, Blizzard could close low population realms, and for free transfer people to new realms.

[Chromie]

Liamv2 wrote...

I thought WoW was mostly dead nowadays along with every other MMO.

Wasn't it at 7 million?

[Liamv2]

I had just heard that Wow and MMO's in general were struggling.

[Cyonan]

DesioPL wrote...

I agree... MoP shows that also return of Burning Legion is possible, since Kil'Jaeden and Sargeras still lives... But most command structure of the legion is wiped out. Tichondrius, Mannoroth, Azgalor or just Kael'Thas are dead now. I think the commanders now would be.

Sargeras - Creator of the Burning Legion.
Mephistroth - Leader of the Nathrezim.
Kil'Jaeden - Main commander of Legion forces.
Mal'Ganis - Second in command, also adjutant for Mephistroth.
Balnazzar - Third in command.

Why i suggest Mal'Ganis and Balnazzar?

Balnazzar is only vanquished from Azeroth, but he still lives... It's really difficult to kill Nathrezim... The only one who is dead, is Tichondrius from Illidan hands.

Mal'Ganis promise the vengeance in WOTLK expansion in Icecrown quests.

However... Emerald Dream is also possible, but this is fan favorite expansion. I think we can venture to Emerald Dream, but as a instance in The Dark Below. Also Ra'Den words may suggest TDB.

About technical issues. Yeah i heard also alot of negative opinions about cross-realms or LFR / Flexible Raids. For me, Blizzard could close low population realms, and for free transfer people to new realms.

I could see the Emerald Dream being a raid in an expansion with Aszhara and the Naga, seeing as how Malfurion mentions that N'Zoth is also responsible for that.

The main thing that suggests the Legion's return in MoP is Wrathion straight up telling us that some great threat is coming to Azeroth with the image of infernals raining down on the planet.

I see them using Argus as the main continent for that, and finally getting to see the whole "Army of the Light" that the Draenei wont stop talking about. I also imagine a few new high ranking commanders would show up throughout the expansion as well, in addition to the ones you've named.

I feel like the whole CRZ/LFR/LFD has been good for populations, but bad for overall community. I think it would have been better if they just swallowed their pride and merged realms with very low populations.

[Cyonan]

Liamv2 wrote...

I had just heard that Wow and MMO's in general were struggling.

The internet likes to claim that with no real evidence, especially about WoW.

While WoW has dropped down from its peak of 12 million subscriptions, it's still far from dead at 7 million.

[DesioPL]

Cyonan wrote...

DesioPL wrote...

I agree... MoP shows that also return of Burning Legion is possible, since Kil'Jaeden and Sargeras still lives... But most command structure of the legion is wiped out. Tichondrius, Mannoroth, Azgalor or just Kael'Thas are dead now. I think the commanders now would be.

Sargeras - Creator of the Burning Legion.
Mephistroth - Leader of the Nathrezim.
Kil'Jaeden - Main commander of Legion forces.
Mal'Ganis - Second in command, also adjutant for Mephistroth.
Balnazzar - Third in command.

Why i suggest Mal'Ganis and Balnazzar?

Balnazzar is only vanquished from Azeroth, but he still lives... It's really difficult to kill Nathrezim... The only one who is dead, is Tichondrius from Illidan hands.

Mal'Ganis promise the vengeance in WOTLK expansion in Icecrown quests.

However... Emerald Dream is also possible, but this is fan favorite expansion. I think we can venture to Emerald Dream, but as a instance in The Dark Below. Also Ra'Den words may suggest TDB.

About technical issues. Yeah i heard also alot of negative opinions about cross-realms or LFR / Flexible Raids. For me, Blizzard could close low population realms, and for free transfer people to new realms.

I could see the Emerald Dream being a raid in an expansion with Aszhara and the Naga, seeing as how Malfurion mentions that N'Zoth is also responsible for that.

The main thing that suggests the Legion's return in MoP is Wrathion straight up telling us that some great threat is coming to Azeroth with the image of infernals raining down on the planet.

I see them using Argus as the main continent for that, and finally getting to see the whole "Army of the Light" that the Draenei wont stop talking about. I also imagine a few new high ranking commanders would show up throughout the expansion as well, in addition to the ones you've named.

I feel like the whole CRZ/LFR/LFD has been good for populations, but bad for overall community. I think it would have been better if they just swallowed their pride and merged realms with very low populations.

If i good remember... Emerald Dream was a alternative world for Azeroth for example. The Maelstorm in ED is named Rift Of Aln. Also Malfurion explains, that someday maybe the other things will be solved. He will return with Tyrande to ED and try close Rift Of Aln.  Yeah i mean Stormrage novel...

ED as a raid is much likely possible, since Old Gods is really powerfull beings, and if N'Zoth is still powerfull... He can rebirth Xavius, and he would be a raid boss... The main issue is that, in current Azeroth is four portals to ED. Hinterlands, Ashenvale, Duskwood and Feralas. That may also consider that ED can be a 5 manes instances or scenarious... If scenarious idea will continue in TDB... But i heard people like heroic scenarios, so is possible.

Yeah... Blizzard could merge some low population realms with medium population realms... I don't get it why they make cross realms. This is controversal for me...

[Cyonan]

DesioPL wrote...

If i good remember... Emerald Dream was a alternative world for Azeroth for example. The Maelstorm in ED is named Rift Of Aln. Also Malfurion explains, that someday maybe the other things will be solved. He will return with Tyrande to ED and try close Rift Of Aln. Yeah i mean Stormrage novel...

ED as a raid is much likely possible, since Old Gods is really powerfull beings, and if N'Zoth is still powerfull... He can rebirth Xavius, and he would be a raid boss... The main issue is that, in current Azeroth is four portals to ED. Hinterlands, Ashenvale, Duskwood and Feralas. That may also consider that ED can be a 5 manes instances or scenarious... If scenarious idea will continue in TDB... But i heard people like heroic scenarios, so is possible.

Yeah... Blizzard could merge some low population realms with medium population realms... I don't get it why they make cross realms. This is controversal for me...

If I remember my lore right, the Emerald Dream is an alternate Azeroth where there was no intervention from the various races, including the ones we play as. Only it's become corrupted with Xavius serving as the "Nightmare Lord" and according to Malfurion, serving a higher power which is apparently N'Zoth.

If I had to guess, I would say at least 5 mans if not raids rather than scenarios. Ghostcrawler mentioned at one point that they're bringing back 5 mans in the next expansion as being more relevant later on.

[Redbelle]

DesioPL wrote...

Liamv2 wrote...

I thought WoW was mostly dead nowadays along with every other MMO.

WoW still lives, but number of players is slowly getting down. Some players mentioned, that Mists Of Pandaria was better than Cataclysm... But still not what they want.

I stopped after Cataclysm. The Wrath of the Lich King was my high point.

I expect we'll hear more about WoW during blizzcon

[DesioPL]

Cyonan wrote...

DesioPL wrote...

If i good remember... Emerald Dream was a alternative world for Azeroth for example. The Maelstorm in ED is named Rift Of Aln. Also Malfurion explains, that someday maybe the other things will be solved. He will return with Tyrande to ED and try close Rift Of Aln. Yeah i mean Stormrage novel...

ED as a raid is much likely possible, since Old Gods is really powerfull beings, and if N'Zoth is still powerfull... He can rebirth Xavius, and he would be a raid boss... The main issue is that, in current Azeroth is four portals to ED. Hinterlands, Ashenvale, Duskwood and Feralas. That may also consider that ED can be a 5 manes instances or scenarious... If scenarious idea will continue in TDB... But i heard people like heroic scenarios, so is possible.

Yeah... Blizzard could merge some low population realms with medium population realms... I don't get it why they make cross realms. This is controversal for me...

If I remember my lore right, the Emerald Dream is an alternate Azeroth where there was no intervention from the various races, including the ones we play as. Only it's become corrupted with Xavius serving as the "Nightmare Lord" and according to Malfurion, serving a higher power which is apparently N'Zoth.

If I had to guess, I would say at least 5 mans if not raids rather than scenarios. Ghostcrawler mentioned at one point that they're bringing back 5 mans in the next expansion as being more relevant later on.

I will don't like if scenarios will be a exclusive only for MoP. Since this is good idea, faster than DF honestly. Too bad, there is no low LVL scenarios... Some quests in old zones can be revamped to scenarios, like chain quest leading to Stonewatch in Redridge Mountains.

@Redbelle.

I also stop playing in WOTLK, but i think back as soon possible. But i guess, not to Argent Dawn.

Modifié par DesioPL, 01 novembre 2013 - 07:11 .

[Cyonan]

DesioPL wrote...

I will don't like if scenarios will be a exclusive only for MoP. Since this is good idea, faster than DF honestly. Too bad, there is no low LVL scenarios... Some quests in old zones can be revamped to scenarios, like chain quest leading to Stonewatch in Redridge Mountains.

@Redbelle.

I also stop playing in WOTLK, but i think back as soon possible. But i guess, not to Argent Dawn.

As a tank/healer mainly, I have to say that I prefer 5 mans because I feel more useful in those. I can see the benefit of scenarios as a DPS as they're often stuck waiting on the tank due to a lot of tanks not wanting to run with pugs.

I think we'll still see some scenarios, although we'll also see 5 mans being more relevant beyond the first 2 or so months of the expansion.

[Cyonan]

So Blizzard has now registered a trademark for the title "Warlords of Draenor", which suggests the Burning Legion expansion.

No comment besides people noticing the trademark request, and no idea about The Dark Below(I've heard rumours that it was false, but I'm not sure).

[DesioPL]

Cyonan wrote...

So Blizzard has now registered a trademark for the title "Warlords of Draenor", which suggests the Burning Legion expansion.

No comment besides people noticing the trademark request, and no idea about The Dark Below(I've heard rumours that it was false, but I'm not sure).

Yeah i saw that on MMO-Champion. And currently... I have no idea what is a fake or true? Since The Dark Below, may suggest expansion with Azshara and N'Zoth. Where Warlords Of Draenor, may suggest Burning Legion.

So that may be true, since Chris Metzen mentioned, that after MoP... Turalyon and Alleria Windrunner story may continue... But if they live? Since second war is ended long time ago.

[Cyonan]

DesioPL wrote...

Yeah i saw that on MMO-Champion. And currently... I have no idea what is a fake or true? Since The Dark Below, may suggest expansion with Azshara and N'Zoth. Where Warlords Of Draenor, may suggest Burning Legion.

So that may be true, since Chris Metzen mentioned, that after MoP... Turalyon and Alleria Windrunner story may continue... But if they live? Since second war is ended long time ago.

If I remember right, Metzen did say that they're definately alive. The rest of the Sons of Lothar survived the end of the second war into Burning Crusade, so it's possible.

Right now there isn't any solid evidence to go on. The guy who runs MMO Champ said he feels good about WoD personally and he has a history of being right about this sort of thing, but that's hardly a confirmation.

I'd also be happy to get some more Draenei lore going in the game =P

[DesioPL]

Cyonan wrote...

DesioPL wrote...

Yeah i saw that on MMO-Champion. And currently... I have no idea what is a fake or true? Since The Dark Below, may suggest expansion with Azshara and N'Zoth. Where Warlords Of Draenor, may suggest Burning Legion.

So that may be true, since Chris Metzen mentioned, that after MoP... Turalyon and Alleria Windrunner story may continue... But if they live? Since second war is ended long time ago.

If I remember right, Metzen did say that they're definately alive. The rest of the Sons of Lothar survived the end of the second war into Burning Crusade, so it's possible.

Right now there isn't any solid evidence to go on. The guy who runs MMO Champ said he feels good about WoD personally and he has a history of being right about this sort of thing, but that's hardly a confirmation.

I'd also be happy to get some more Draenei lore going in the game =P

I guess... Draenei was mostly ignored in storyline after TBC end content... Until Cataclysm, where Prophet Velen appears for alliance storyline in Swamp Of Sorrows. Otherwise this is my only speculation but... Velen is preparing others to war against legion... So if we consider WoD as next expansion... Velen maybe can try retake Argus? If Argus exist still, since some planets, after legion conquest, was destroyed. Yes i mention now Green Fire spells for lock chain quest.

[Chromie]

I bet Illidan is going to come back because **** Metzen.

[AventuroLegendary]

May your blades never dull!
I'm not sure what to think of the Dark Below. I got tired of Old Gods for a while.

DesioPL wrote...

Liamv2 wrote...

I thought WoW was mostly dead nowadays along with every other MMO.

WoW still lives, but number of players is slowly getting down. Some players mentioned, that Mists Of Pandaria was better than Cataclysm... But still not what they want.

WoW is "dying" because it's an old game based on an even older engine.

[DesioPL]

LegendaryAvenger wrote...

May your blades never dull!
I'm not sure what to think of the Dark Below. I got tired of Old Gods for a while.

DesioPL wrote...

Liamv2 wrote...

I thought WoW was mostly dead nowadays along with every other MMO.

WoW still lives, but number of players is slowly getting down. Some players mentioned, that Mists Of Pandaria was better than Cataclysm... But still not what they want.

WoW is "dying" because it's an old game based on an even older engine.

Upgrade WoW to new engine, would be very hard... Even now, Blizzard still got problems with new character models... But people still like new Garrosh model, or High Priestess Mar'Li...

Where is also problem? Blizzard make changes, what players don't want mostly, like cross realms.

[Cyonan]

I really doubt if they'll update the entire engine, although the new player models are supposed to still be in the works as some point, not counting Worgen, Goblin or Pandaren as they're newer.

If the expansion is Warlords of Draenor, then despite the name I have to imagine that it's going to take place on Argus for the most part. We've already been to Draenor(otherwise known as Outlands) so that'd make little sense to go back there, and Argus is the biggest planet we know of for the Legion plus it's tied to the playable Draenei race.

There is also, as you said, the Army of the Light that Velen is preparing to finally fight back against the Legion. With Garrosh kicked off the Horde throne, we might see Azeroth back to it's sort of united state with the Draenei leading that army.

Also, for the Alliance =P

Modifié par Cyonan, 01 novembre 2013 - 08:54 .

[wolfsite]

I stopped playing due to Elitists demanding everyone use mods in there raids that pretty much play the game for you.  Was almost impossible to get into a decent raid due to all the mods & UI's people demanded you use at the time.... gear score & gear check just killed it in the end since you were not even allowed to play the game the way you liked or you got kicked for someone in top end gear who turned out was carried by other people and didn't even know how to tank.

[Chromie]

wolfsite wrote...

I stopped playing due to Elitists demanding everyone use mods in there raids that pretty much play the game for you.  Was almost impossible to get into a decent raid due to all the mods & UI's people demanded you use at the time.... gear score & gear check just killed it in the end since you were not even allowed to play the game the way you liked or you got kicked for someone in top end gear who turned out was carried by other people and didn't even know how to tank.

Sounds like you were in a ****ty guild. Bought MoP and played for a month. raiding is a joke. Two year break and it's easier than ever to form a raid group and kill stuff without so much as an explanation.

Modifié par Skelter192, 01 novembre 2013 - 09:58 .