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[AventuroLegendary]

Do different races get different garrison designs or are they all generic human/orc buildings? I would love to build some undead crypts.

Dave of Canada wrote...

I dislike the character assassination of Garrosh, I saw Siege as an end to his character assassination.

Then they do this.

Merely a setback.

[DesioPL]

In original plans, is mentioned that Garrosh will back to Outland and resurect Warlords from old days... But this is no longer in option. So we have now time travels! Otherwise it seems that Garrosh, will be not a main antagonist again... So who? My type for Grom Hellscream! Like father like son, remember?

Also... Is Durotan are a hero or vilian? That blizzard question... I hope they will not ruin Durotan story for WoD, or i promise... I will get my Geth Juggernaut and go to Blizzard and shoot them with siege pulse!

Also worth to mentioned, that Kargath Bladefist will have a second apperance! In TBC days was a last boss in Shattered Halls, and now he will be a normal orc, before drinking Mannoroth or Magtheridon blood. Blackhand also looks like a badass with his hammer and armor, seriously! Kilrog Deadeye looks very nice, and very good for his lore, since he don't have a eye. Not sure about Gul'Dan and Ner'Zhul... It's seems they will a conflict between Stormreaver Clan and Shadowmoon Clan?

In Draenor, will be somethings from Timeless Isle or Iron Horde Caravans. And they will be more lore for Draenei, at last!

For garrisons... Currently i think, they will be only pro human / orc buildings to setup. I just wonder, if garrisons will be included to PvP?

[RobRam10]

DesioPL wrote...

In original plans, is mentioned that Garrosh will back to Outland and resurect Warlords from old days... But this is no longer in option. So we have now time travels! Otherwise it seems that Garrosh, will be not a main antagonist again... So who? My type for Grom Hellscream! Like father like son, remember?

Also... Is Durotan are a hero or vilian? That blizzard question... I hope they will not ruin Durotan story for WoD, or i promise... I will get my Geth Juggernaut and go to Blizzard and shoot them with siege pulse!

Also worth to mentioned, that Kargath Bladefist will have a second apperance! In TBC days was a last boss in Shattered Halls, and now he will be a normal orc, before drinking Mannoroth or Magtheridon blood. Blackhand also looks like a badass with his hammer and armor, seriously! Kilrog Deadeye looks very nice, and very good for his lore, since he don't have a eye. Not sure about Gul'Dan and Ner'Zhul... It's seems they will a conflict between Stormreaver Clan and Shadowmoon Clan?

In Draenor, will be somethings from Timeless Isle or Iron Horde Caravans. And they will be more lore for Draenei, at last!

For garrisons... Currently i think, they will be only pro human / orc buildings to setup. I just wonder, if garrisons will be included to PvP?

I think garrisons will be phased-player so I doubt there would be pvp.

[DesioPL]

greengoron89 wrote...

Garrosh apparently convinces Ner'zhul to give Kil'jaedan the finger, so Gul'dan will now be Kil'jaedan's inside man in Draenor. It will be interesting to see how that plays out, and all but confirms the Legion will be involved in this expansion as well.

If this is true... Gul'Dan and his followers was only servants of Burning Legion... Would be nice see a alternative version for events in Draenor. So if Gul'Dan was serve Kil'Jaeden... It's suggest that Ner'Zhul will deal with Gul'Dan for his treachery.

[Thunderfox]

Which is pretty much how it goes in the Prime Timeline anyways. if I remember correctly from playing and the novel: Kil'Jaedan tricks Ner'Zhul into uniting the Orcs against the Draenei because his still ticked about Velen's rejection of Sargeras and the Draeneis flight from Argus, plus wants to see if the Orcs can be part of the Legion. Ner'Zhul eventually finds out and has a "What have I done" moment, but before he can reveal the truth Gul'Dan betrays him and becomes Kil'Jaedan's chief lackey on Draenor. He has the Chieftains drink the blood of Mannoroth, invade Azerothe etc etc etc. I've always liked Ner'zhul so it'll be interesting to see what role he and the Shadowmoon play.

Blizz seems pretty adamant about not referring to WoD as a Time-travell expansion, but seemingly as an alternate time-line. We'll see though I do wonder if it'll still feel connected.

Modifié par ThunderfoxF, 09 novembre 2013 - 04:33 .

[AventuroLegendary]

Theory. Orgrim Doomhammer works as a Lieutenant for Blackhand. We'll work with him to organize a coup and bring the Blackrock clan into the allied force.
And I've never pictured Ner'Zhul as evil or expansionist before going insane. Maybe we can get the Shadowmoon, too?
I'm still kind of ticked that the Frostwolves are the only sane, not-evil orc clan.

DesioPL wrote...

Also... Is Durotan are a hero or vilian? That blizzard question... I hope they will not ruin Durotan story for WoD, or i promise... I will get my Geth Juggernaut and go to Blizzard and shoot them with siege pulse!

Durotan is listed as Horde and has "rejected" the ways of the Iron Horde. But then, there was a Frostwolf Orc among the Warlords. Draka?

[DesioPL]

LegendaryAvenger wrote...

Theory. Orgrim Doomhammer works as a Lieutenant for Blackhand. We'll work with him to organize a coup and bring the Blackrock clan into the allied force.
And I've never pictured Ner'Zhul as evil or expansionist before going insane. Maybe we can get the Shadowmoon, too?
I'm still kind of ticked that the Frostwolves are the only sane, not-evil orc clan.

DesioPL wrote...

Also... Is Durotan are a hero or vilian? That blizzard question... I hope they will not ruin Durotan story for WoD, or i promise... I will get my Geth Juggernaut and go to Blizzard and shoot them with siege pulse!

Durotan is listed as Horde and has "rejected" the ways of the Iron Horde. But then, there was a Frostwolf Orc among the Warlords. Draka?

Yes... Durotan reject to join to Iron Horde with Frostwolf Clan, also i hope Draka will also appears, because she was also important character in old horde story. Also it's likely possible, that with Frostwolf rejection to Iron Horde... Thunderlord Clan may join to Iron Horde, and fight against Frostwolf to controling Frostfire Ridge.

Orgrimm Doohmammer is old friend of Durotan, but if Blackhand reject to drink Mannoroth blood... Why Doomhammer could make rebelion against his warlord? Also i just curious if we see sons and daughter of Blackhand?

[AventuroLegendary]

DesioPL wrote...

Yes... Durotan reject to join to Iron Horde with Frostwolf Clan, also i hope Draka will also appears, because she was also important character in old horde story. Also it's likely possible, that with Frostwolf rejection to Iron Horde... Thunderlord Clan may join to Iron Horde, and fight against Frostwolf to controling Frostfire Ridge.

Orgrimm Doohmammer is old friend of Durotan, but if Blackhand reject to drink Mannoroth blood... Why Doomhammer could make rebelion against his warlord? Also i just curious if we see sons and daughter of Blackhand?

It's confirmed that Horde players fight the Thunderlords. Our bases will include Frostwolf Keep, a skeleton of a giant (?), and the Ogre Empire mountain base we capture.

Orgrim could betray Blackhand out of lust for power, honor code, respect for the Frostwolves, or all of the above.

Also, the Burning Blade. Can we at least have them? 

[DesioPL]

LegendaryAvenger wrote...

DesioPL wrote...

Yes... Durotan reject to join to Iron Horde with Frostwolf Clan, also i hope Draka will also appears, because she was also important character in old horde story. Also it's likely possible, that with Frostwolf rejection to Iron Horde... Thunderlord Clan may join to Iron Horde, and fight against Frostwolf to controling Frostfire Ridge.

Orgrimm Doohmammer is old friend of Durotan, but if Blackhand reject to drink Mannoroth blood... Why Doomhammer could make rebelion against his warlord? Also i just curious if we see sons and daughter of Blackhand?

It's confirmed that Horde players fight the Thunderlords. Our bases will include Frostwolf Keep, a skeleton of a giant (?), and the Ogre Empire mountain base we capture.

Orgrim could betray Blackhand out of lust for power, honor code, respect for the Frostwolves, or all of the above.

Also, the Burning Blade. Can we at least have them? 

Events of WoD suggests, that storyline will start before opening The Dark Portal, so Burning Blade Clan is not yet exist... The clan was formed in Second War. But i guess, Burning Blade will not include in storyline, or they will include but... They will be hunt by Iron Horde, for treachery to Burning Legion.

About that giant skeleton... I'm sure that is a really big bad Gronn skeleton! Damn i still remember the times, when Gruul The Dragonkiller was most difficult boss in game!

[AventuroLegendary]

DesioPL wrote...

Events of WoD suggests, that storyline will start before opening The Dark Portal, so Burning Blade Clan is not yet exist... The clan was formed in Second War. But i guess, Burning Blade will not include in storyline, or they will include but... They will be hunt by Iron Horde, for treachery to Burning Legion.

About that giant skeleton... I'm sure that is a really big bad Gronn skeleton! Damn i still remember the times, when Gruul The Dragonkiller was most difficult boss in game!

Right... Yeah, I don't care. I want samurai orcs and I want them to be on my team, goddamit! Granted, the whole "Burning Legion pact" thing can complicate things...

And those are skeleton of giants larger than Gronn. If you've played Warcraft 2, they're the Templed of the Damned buildings.

Modifié par LegendaryAvenger, 09 novembre 2013 - 06:25 .

[Cyonan]

The Burning Blade might still get formed during the expansion.

Although I imagine the Alliance will be fighting the Shadowmoon Clan since that's where our starting zone is.

[DesioPL]

Remember that Blademasters are not only in Burning Blade Clan. Grom Hellscream was one of Blademasters.

[Thunderfox]

The more I hear about Garrisons and followers they more it sounds like Inquisition. I mean customizable base, NPCs who do quests crafting etc etc for you? I'm not saying that Inquisition invented the concept, because we, It didn't. But its funny that both have it.

Modifié par ThunderfoxF, 10 novembre 2013 - 04:33 .

[AventuroLegendary]

The models look nice but I just noticed that the Orcs don't have eyebrows D: I've played them and killed a whole lot of them but never noticed it. It's like noticing that crocolisks have six legs. 

ThunderfoxF wrote...

The more I hear about Garrisons and followers they more it sounds like Inquisition. I mean customizable base, NPCs who do quests crafting etc etc for you? I'm not saying that Inquisition invented the concept, because we, It didn't. But its funny that both have it.

I haven't read up on Inquisition but it sounds nice with customizable bases. I also remember Blizz saying the bases will play a large role in the story. Good stuff.

Modifié par LegendaryAvenger, 11 novembre 2013 - 06:35 .

[DesioPL]

New informations.

It's confired, that flying mounts in Draenor will be not avalible until patch 6.1. Blizzard says that reason, is the same like in MoP, they want to players discover a new continent.

About arenas, right now people make a serious disscussion about them, since Blizzard want with WoD add Trial Of The Gladiator.

About Grand Yak from MoP. Blizzard don't know yet, what NPC will be replaced by this one, who offers a reforge. Is possible that will be one with transmog or item upgrades options.

Some people speculate from first gameplay, that chimeras will be a flying mounts for players. Rumors says, that chimera mount will be a bonus for pre - order WoD or completing quests.

Currently goblins and worgens got best racial skills, blizzard want make balance for older races.

[DesioPL]

Jayne126 wrote...

Good, flying mounts have become a real cancer to this game. Quite a lot reminds me of BC so that's good for me.

Remains to be seen if blizz has the balls to follow through it though. Knowing the WoW com nowadays they'll whine nonstop until they have what they want.

I still better like EK and Kalimdor before Cata, because is not possible to use FM's.

[DesioPL]

Interesing fact.

It's seems, Kairoz apperance in Timeless Isle is a bigger plan. After the events in SoO, many suggest that Wrathion, will help escape Garrosh. But it seems, Kairoz help him, and bring modern warfare to Draenor before destruction. That may suggest or not, that Kairoz will be one of antagonist, or they not be also.

Otherwise here is my little speculation.

We see, that Akama is back as Vindicator... But why he is a Vindicator, since the official rumors says, that he was a Priest durning old Draenor timeline. Someone missed that? Also is possible, that Garm Wolfbrother may appear, because he was a chieftain of Thunderlord Clan.

Other news? Blizzard is not sure, when will be release new models. With WoD release or in patch cycles.

[Cyonan]

I'm rather happy about the no flying thing. I have to agree with what Ghostcrawler said a while ago that adding them was a mistake. I wouldn't mind it if they never allowed flying on Draenor.

This expansion feels a bit like the "let's see how many complaints we can address at once" expansion.

I'm curious to see what they're going to do with the difficulty levels of 5 mans as well as raids, since that's something that people will always complain about regardless of being easier or harder.

[AventuroLegendary]

DesioPL wrote...
Currently goblins and worgens got best racial skills, blizzard want make balance for older races.

If they take away my axe specialization, there will be hell to pay.
I'm also curious as to why new Draenei models weren't prioritized at launch. I know that older races look worse but the Draenei are the stars of the expansion (Alongside the Orcs). 

Cyonan wrote...

I'm rather happy about the no flying thing. I have to agree with what Ghostcrawler said a while ago that adding them was a mistake. I wouldn't mind it if they never allowed flying on Draenor.

This expansion feels a bit like the "let's see how many complaints we can address at once" expansion.

I'm curious to see what they're going to do with the difficulty levels of 5 mans as well as raids, since that's something that people will always complain about regardless of being easier or harder.

I like it, too. People are so quick to bypass the hassle of travelling for the sake of time. 

And the problem with Blizzard is that they have a tendency to overcompensate for past issues. Dungeons too easy in WotLK? Make them vice-grip hard in Cata. Not a lot to do in Cata? Massive amounts of dailies in MoP.

I'm hoping they strike a balance.

Modifié par LegendaryAvenger, 16 novembre 2013 - 07:37 .

[DesioPL]

Cyonan wrote...

I'm rather happy about the no flying thing. I have to agree with what Ghostcrawler said a while ago that adding them was a mistake. I wouldn't mind it if they never allowed flying on Draenor.

This expansion feels a bit like the "let's see how many complaints we can address at once" expansion.

I'm curious to see what they're going to do with the difficulty levels of 5 mans as well as raids, since that's something that people will always complain about regardless of being easier or harder.

At some points i must agree with fly mounts. But they need to add fly mounts, while Tempest Keep requirers use Fly Mounts. Same here for Ulduar, Blackwing Descent, Vortex Pinnacle, Throne Of The Four Winds or Bastion Of Twilight.

Otherwise also, i must agree that Vash'Jr is horrible. Well storyline is good, but technical issues with Vash'Jr, like swiming etc.

About 5 mans. I remember the times, where even heroic 5 manes in TBC was really hard. Remember Talon King Ikiss encounter? And hiss huge arcane explosion? Even trashes on hero 5 mans in TBC was a challenge. The biggest challenge, is a trash between Ambassador Hellmaw and Blackheart The Inciter? Damn they are hit very hard! Also bosses like Murmur, are full of suprises. But when WOTLK was release, and then heroics don't need reputation to enter, they are really easy. A shame really...

I think... WoW needs now more hard modes encounters in raids or 5 mans, like Assembly Of Iron or Flame Leviathan. The Assembly Of Iron HM is activated, when we want last to kill Steelbreaker, while Flame Leviathan got all four towers active. Yeah there is one HM in Pandaria, it was Protectors Of The Endless, but this is only one encounter.

And i beg to Blizzard... No more professions! Let they upgrade old ones at first, give more interesing items to craft. I like archeology, because you can get nice stuff, even on Pandaria.

Modifié par DesioPL, 17 novembre 2013 - 08:57 .

[AventuroLegendary]

I heard that MoP is being sold for 10 USD on Black Friday whereas the battle chest and 60 day subscriptions are 5. Sweet.

[DesioPL]

Is not yet confirmed but... Is possible that beta tests of WoD will be start with end of february 2014. BRING IT ON! MY BODY IS READY!