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[dreamgazer]

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

Let's not act like DA2, ToR and ME3 didn't happen. Regardless of whether or not you loved, hated, or were indifferent towards those games, there are A LOT of people that haven't been too thrilled with the quality of Bioware's past three games, especially with ME3, a game that some fans look at as a blemish on the series.

Why stop with those games? Plenty of people had issues with Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2, too.

[SlottsMachine]

Hahahah.

[GreyLycanTrope]

I'd be lying if I said I didn't like a lot of what I've been hearing. It certainly has potential let's just hope it delivers.

Modifié par Greylycantrope, 02 novembre 2013 - 06:12 .

[Hippiethecat124]

Inquisition looks promising, yes, but I don't think you can call whether a game will be good or bad so early in development. I was dubious when they first announced it was in the works, but after the extended deadline, return of multiple races, and and discussion of more dynamic relationships and strategy-oriented(ish) battle, I feel pretty good about it.

And "redeem" is a pretty strong word. Did Bioware have a few SNAFUS? Yeah, they did. But in my opinion, besides the original endings of ME3, they haven't done anything in the "sitting on their own balls" level of stupid like I've seen some companies do. But that's just me. Your mileage may vary.

[Mathias]

JulianWellpit wrote...

Despise the controversies and criticism regarding the ME3 ending , DA2 and SW:TOR, saying that Bioware needs to redeem themselves is a little to much. ME3 was a good game,only the last 5-10 minutes were kind of . DA2 was also a good game; not as good as DA:O, but still good. 

So no,  they don't need to "redeem" themselves . Want to see a company that really needs to redeem themselves ? See what CA did with ROME 2. 

Dialogue system gutted like a fish.
Most choices didn't amount to anything.
Kai Leng.
Journal System was poorly designed.
Final mission of the trilogy was underwhelming and dull.

That's just to name a few, and those aren't just my personal list of gripes. These are common complaints people had with the game. Mass Effect 3's problems went beyond just the ending.

riverbanks wrote...

They can strive to make games that more people will like/less people will throw hissy fits about, but "as good as past games" is a matter of subjective opinion, it's not an objective evaluation of a particular game's qualities. Obviously we all hope we'll enjoy Inquisition, but if we're going to qualify an unreleased game by how well it compares to "past games" instead of how enjoyable it is by itself, we're not off to a good start.

You can talk subjective and objective all you like, but it is a fact that the loudest and most noteworthy controversies and criticisms towards Bioware, centered around their past 3 games. That cannot be denied.

agonis wrote...

I don´t care for the criticism of other players, because I don´t share it. And I certainly do not kiss any feet just because I loved both ME3 and DA2. (Not that I don´t think both have room for improvement) I´m quite fed up being told that liking those games makes me a stupid human being unable to see the obvious.

You said it, not me.

dreamgazer wrote...

Why stop with those games? Plenty of people had issues with Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2, too.

Issues sure, but not on the same scale as what we heard people had with DA2, ToR and ME3.

Modifié par Mdoggy1214, 02 novembre 2013 - 06:29 .

[Knight of Dane]

I think it looks great.

[Mathias]

I'm not getting after the people who still love Bioware and loved their past three games. That's all good in the hood. I want DA:I to be fantastic so badly I can taste it. But I'm just saying that we shouldn't turn a blind eye to the big picture here. No joke, around 3 weeks ago someone on Reddit posted a picture of the ME3 ending, saying "I still haven't forgotten..." and I kid you not it made the front page. The comments were littered with people who were still angry with Bioware.

And this is 17-18 months after the whole ordeal.

[riverbanks]

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

riverbanks wrote...

They can strive to make games that more people will like/less people will throw hissy fits about, but "as good as past games" is a matter of subjective opinion, it's not an objective evaluation of a particular game's qualities. Obviously we all hope we'll enjoy Inquisition, but if we're going to qualify an unreleased game by how well it compares to "past games" instead of how enjoyable it is by itself, we're not off to a good start.

You can talk subjective and objective all you like, but it is a fact that the loudest and most noteworthy controversies and criticisms towards Bioware, centered around their past 3 games. That cannot be denied. 

Alright, let's rephrase. To be clear, I am not denying that controversy over the past couple games exists (where the noise derails from valid and constructive criticism into collective hysteria is another matter, which is what the "subjective" part was about). What I am saying is that if, a whole year before the game is even launched, we're already measuring its worth solely by how well it compares to old games (where agonis has a very valid point: do we really think if Baldur's Gate and DAO were released as they are today, in 2013, they would be hailed as fantastic games? let's put things in perspective here and acknowledge that every game is a product of its time), then we're certainly dooming this game to failure before it even has a chance to try.

The point is: nothing productive comes from wondering if Inquisition will be "as good as" DAO or "better than" ME3. Let's wonder if Inquisition will be well written, if the gameplay will be fun, if the story will make sense, if the ending will feel like you accomplished something. By all means, let's question the devs and watch what they say, let's hope they're giving 500% to make an enjoyable game. But this vitriol of Bioware "redeeming" themselves from some terrible unforgivable sin of sins is just inflamatory and pointless, it only serves to make players bitter about things that cannot be changed and towards things they don't even know yet. DAII/ME3 are not going to rewrite themselves and rematerialize as a new game if you/we cry enough about it, so let's leave it well enough alone and take Inquisition to task on what this game brings to the table, not on what IGN's comment section is still lamenting about two years after the fact.

[rupok93]

In spite of the responses I will rephrase the question.

Do you think DAI will have good storytelling?
Do you think DAI will have good gameplay with a mixture of tactical and action?
Do you think Bioware will improve upon and not repeat mistakes of the past in the dragon age franchise?

Please give some evidence (interviews, quotes,etc) if you can.

[Maria Caliban]

rupok93 wrote...

Do you think inquisition will be good?

Yes.

[Schneidend]

Maria Caliban wrote...

rupok93 wrote...

Do you think inquisition will be good?

Yes.

[Hazegurl]

I think it will be. I didn't have much of an issue with DA2 but I do hope this game improves on the former ones.

[Welsh Inferno]

It'll be good, but probably not great.

Willing to be proven wrong however.

[cJohnOne]

Well they will be adding exploration into mix of Bioware story and characters. I think you'd need to embrace exploration plus tactical combat.

[daholyone11]

 They said choices would matter in ME3, we all saw how that turned out.

And they did say choices will matter in this game. 

What's to stop them from making the same mistake again?

I don't think its a talent issue, and I wouldn't use the argument: "they learned from their mistakes".

I think it's more about $. Any good rpg game that will sell well needs to have the following:

-Good gameplay
- Likeable characters

The story? Just give the players something to make them move forward.

[franciscoamell]

Yeah.

[Fredward]

No ****ing idea considering it's still a year (or more <_<) with possible cuts to even the little we have seen/heard so... yeah. Ask again 3 months after the release when everyone who matters has formed a solid opinion.

[Red Panda]

Schneidend wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

rupok93 wrote...

Do you think inquisition will be good?

Yes.

[jaza]

I'll confess that i've heaped quite a lot of criticism on Bioware lately, particulary concerning their ****ty romance and scenes. That said, I've grown a bit more optimistic about the DA:I lately and I'm willing to give Bioware a chance.

That said, I won't be preordering it and I'll wait for at least a week to see what the customer reviews have to say. I learned my lesson after DA2.

JulianWellpit wrote...
ME3 was a good game,only the last 5-10 minutes were kind of . DA2 was also a good game; not as good as DA:O, but still good. 

Modifié par jaza, 02 novembre 2013 - 08:48 .

[Fredward]

^ Someone has an opinion that differs from mine! Lets point and laugh.