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[DeinonSlayer]

ShadowLordXII wrote...

An option to argue with Liara over the hidden prothean beacon on Thessia and just how badly the asari f$#%ed up everyone else.

Liara isn't the one who needs to hear it. Tevos (or that stuck-up b!tch who replaces her) on the other hand... why am I forced to apologize to her again?

[Zan51]

Send a message to Kaidan (my VS) and my Mum that I was alive in ME2! And an option to reply to some of the emails we got in game. Yeah, I know, not big in the scheme of things, but it did niggle with me. As well as some of the issues above.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Zan51 wrote...

Send a message to Kaidan (my VS) and my Mum that I was alive in ME2! And an option to reply to some of the emails we got in game. Yeah, I know, not big in the scheme of things, but it did niggle with me. As well as some of the issues above.

I'd have liked the ability to respond negatively and/or delete several messages.

[General TSAR]

DeinonSlayer wrote...
, and the one with Tali, where you have no choice but to spit out some variation of "you got what you deserved" when told about the Morning War.

x2.

My sheps would never sympathize with toasters.

Also ordering Adams and unnamed crew member 1 to open fire on the sexbot coming out of the smoke. 

Also chewing out Cortez for crying in front of his CO.

Modifié par General TSAR, 02 novembre 2013 - 10:45 .

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

ShadowLordXII wrote...

An option to argue with Liara over the hidden prothean beacon on Thessia and just how badly the asari f$#%ed up everyone else.

Liara isn't the one who needs to hear it. Tevos (or that stuck-up b!tch who replaces her) on the other hand... why am I forced to apologize to her again?

This. It isn't Liara. Really it isn't Tevos either. but why am I forced to apologize? 

What I want to know is how Cerberus found out and got there first.

Shepard: Councilor Tevos, can I ask you a question? Where were you when you received the information about the Prothean beacon?
Councilor Tevos: I took the call on Councilor Udina's phone, but C-sec had checked it and they said it was clean, and they're all Turians in here.
Shepard: C-sec has been infiltrated by Cerberus. 
Tevos: How do you know?
Shepard: They were on Thessia and were at the temple first.

Modifié par sH0tgUn jUliA, 02 novembre 2013 - 10:48 .

[General TSAR]

StreetMagic wrote...

You're not sympathizing with Geth by saying that to her. You're just saying they got what they deserved. 

I see no difference.

[General TSAR]

StreetMagic wrote...

It's kind of the difference between saying you basically don't care, and saying you should feel bad about what you did to the Geth.

Got to love BioWare railroading.

At least, that's how I see it. Like if I see a friend who annoys a bee hive and gets stung, I'm going to laugh at him. It has nothing to do with my feelings about bees.

Annoying a Bee Hive=/=Stopping a machine uprising.

A simple: "I hope you learned valuable lessons from the war and I hope your people use them to reclaim your homeworld from the Geth" option would have fixed that interaction.

Modifié par General TSAR, 02 novembre 2013 - 11:01 .

[DeinonSlayer]

General TSAR wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

It's kind of the difference between saying you basically don't care, and saying you should feel bad about what you did to the Geth.

Got to love BioWare railroading.

At least, that's how I see it. Like if I see a friend who annoys a bee hive and gets stung, I'm going to laugh at him. It has nothing to do with my feelings about bees.

Annoying a Bee Hive=/=Stopping a machine uprising.

A simple: "I hope you learned valuable lessons from the war and I hope your people use them to reclaim your homeworld from the Geth" option would have fixed that interaction.

That or something which removes advocacy altogether. "And here you are, paying the price centuries later. I'm sorry."

Something that doesn't force me to either thumb my nose at their situation or make excuses for the Geth would have been greatly appreciated.

[General TSAR]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Something that doesn't force me to either thumb my nose at their situation or make excuses for the Geth would have been greatly appreciated.

That's also a good option.

[General TSAR]

Most definitely, but I would like a mock/scrutinize and then a sympathize/advocate for war option.

"Your people are idiots for creating the Geth and you paid for your mistake, but now is the time to stop licking your wounds and finally rid the galaxy of those machines."

So much more satisfying.

[RatThing]

Telling Joker, he's insane for considering a relationship with a robot.
Chewing Miranda out really good over that control chip thing. You can make Kelly commit suicide over a little spying but she's getting away that easy?
Being more negative towards Wrex and Thane. My paragade Shepard wouldn't be too friendly with two former contract killer. At least there should be (more) options to adress their background.
The option to agree with Xen would also be  logical. You can keep David Archer in the overlord project, but she's supposed to be insane for some experiments on the Geth?

General TSAR wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Something that doesn't force me to either thumb my nose at their situation or make excuses for the Geth would have been greatly appreciated.

That's also a good option.

Also this.

Modifié par RatThing, 02 novembre 2013 - 11:24 .

[General TSAR]

RatThing wrote...
Telling Joker, he's insane for considering a relationship with a robot.

Yes.

The option to agree with Xen would also be  logical. You can keep David Archer in the overlord project, but she's supposed to be insane for some experiments on the Geth?

YES!
(For the option, not your rhetorical question)

Modifié par General TSAR, 02 novembre 2013 - 11:27 .

[Redbelle]

Scene's I'd have liked to see.

Shepard and VS. After Shep saves the council

"Look Shepard, I just wanted to say I'm sorry. I doubted you, and when I told you I was over the trust issue I kept turning around and shoving it in your face. I know you deserved better. But I stopped being the person you knew. I had to grow and when I did the Alliance gave me duties and obligations. I just wanted to say, I'm glad we're on the same team again".

Paragon - "We were always on the same side. And we'll keep it up till the end".

Neutral - "Meh".

Renegade - "The devil child in me want's you close for later".

Modifié par Redbelle, 02 novembre 2013 - 11:35 .

[Sir DeLoria]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

and the one with Tali, where you have no choice but to spit out some variation of "you got what you deserved" when told about the Morning War.

I'm glad someone else noticed that, too. o Ventus wouldn't admit to its existence.

Well, Ventus is a little special at times...

I agree though, that's like telling Connor humanity got what they deserved in the Terminator series. 

On the other hand, I find it lacking, that I didn't get the chance to tell Legion the tests Rael did were justified.

[SwobyJ]

StreetMagic wrote...

I don't think it's like Connor in Terminator. The Quarians knew past history and precedents set about AI already. The Council had already been weary of it (I don't know all the details about the laws though myself). The Quarians just had that mentality of "Oh, it won't happen to us.." Lo and behold, that element still exists among them (Admiral Xen). I guess there's always going to be that element when it comes to AI. There's always going to be the person who thinks they've thought everything through. They're like the idiot who drives home drunk and thinks he's the one person on earth immune to folly.

Which means there are 4 possible results, I guess...

1)Kill any AI that ever pop up
2)Control or override any AI that pop up, and use them for your own means again
3)Integrate any AI and focus on that symbiotic philisophy, despite any opposition
4)All... of the above in different ways? OMG MORAL COMPLEXITY BETTER JUST PICK ONE COLOR

Modifié par SwobyJ, 03 novembre 2013 - 01:20 .

[Dean_the_Young]

Things I wish we could have done...

-Use Kelly as a counselor/confidant to provide P/R justifications for the Big Decisions we made in ME2, to not just have to accept the initial arguments provided.

-Making Kelly a full-fledged romance, with a Renegade themed romance as well. In a game in which Shepherd is pretty much exploiting hero-crush or applying the healing **** to fix the girl and make her happy, a psychologist/confidant figure would have been a good one to listen to the Renegade morality theories behind decisions, go 'you're actually a good person', and have a sort of 'good girl wants to help bad boy' romance. [I'm not terribly fond of the trope, but it would be a good counterpoint/reversal to the typical Bioware romance of 'let me heal you' from PC to NPC.]


Let's see, elsewhere...

I do feel giving Liara tough love and a distinct lack of pity in Thessia was called for. Similarly, I could have appreciated Joker's tasteless joke just like I tolerated his far worse ones.

I think we should have been able to chew Joker out about getting us killed.

I think we should have been able to stop the Joker/EDI romance on grounds that didn't make EDI go 'so synthetics and organics are inherently incompatible.'

I think we should have been able to outright ding EDI on her perceived intelligence by pointing out that no matter how few occurances she thinks it takes to understand a concept, she's still doing them wrong.

I think we should have been able to confront Wrex about his ME2 policies.

I wish we could have confronted the Geth on their part and responsiblity for their position, reputation, and in continuing the conflict.


There were a lot of things about ME2 back in the day, but I've largely stopped caring.