The Xand wrote...
The Flying Grey Warden wrote...
I don't think jesus ever led an army of hebrews and barbarians all the way to rome to stop their wizard aristocracy from oppressing them. I might have actually gone to church as a kid if that were the case, since it would be a lot more interesting to hear.
That's probably why he got crucified.
He should have been more like this.
The Xand wrote...
Br3ad wrote...
For some people, *cough*BioWare*cough,* such writing is currently beyond their understanding. So I'm pretty confident that this will only make less and less sense the deeper they go into it. Look what happened with Alistair, the Therin bloodline, and dragons. That was only three spin-off comic series.
What happened with Alistair? Him becoming king was a great thing and I'm glad they didn't fanny around trying to keep everyone happy because that would have neutered their ability to tell a good story. Quite enjoyed those comics personally.Br3ad wrote...
Jesus crossed with Joan of Arc, does not mean Jesus turned into Joan of Arc, not to mention that Andraste has
almost nothing in common with Jesus in the slightest. This is really just something to make it simple for the fans. It's not anything definite.
Stop being obtuse. Andraste is Jesus/Joan of Arc. Then they turned her ashes into the Holy Grail.
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zMataxa wrote...
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Haha...PERHAPS...Bioware is just stringing out the story in a way - that over time pieces will fall in place and there will be "Holy ****" reactions.
Reading between the lines, that's what I expect is going to happen. No matter what they do I'll love it. Finally get some closure on the mystery of the Maker. I personally think he's evil.
Dabrikishaw wrote...
Therin blood can control dragons.
zMataxa wrote...
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I hope this is the case as well. I'm not at the point of expecting it yet - but it's well possible.
Yeah, I'm gonna love it too if they do - but especially if they stretch it out over more installments.
I worry, they may wrap this up with DAI - I'm hoping for a "season finale" cliff hangar personally.
Bitter-sweet agony that would be.
Modifié par The Xand, 03 novembre 2013 - 08:37 .
Nope. Never denied that.The Xand wrote...
So you don't deny that Andraste's primary influences are Jesus and Joan of Arc?
It can also bring dragons back to life, control them, be used to make magical uber-warriors, and be used to make "the machines of doom." .I only commented on Alistair because there wasn't much else to say about the rest. King Calenhad/Arthur drank the blood of dragons and made himself and his line stronger. You got to do that in DA: Origins.
Br3ad wrote...
Nope. Never denied that.The Xand wrote...
So you don't deny that Andraste's primary influences are Jesus and Joan of Arc?It can also bring dragons back to life, control them, be used to make magical uber-warriors, and be used to make "the machines of doom." .I only commented on Alistair because there wasn't much else to say about the rest. King Calenhad/Arthur drank the blood of dragons and made himself and his line stronger. You got to do that in DA: Origins.
____________Jedi Master of Orion wrote...
The Maker fits just fine into the World of Dragon Age. But the nature of the gods of the setting are not the central theme of Dragon Age. The story is not about them. It's about their worshipers.
Modifié par zMataxa, 03 novembre 2013 - 08:45 .
Br3ad wrote...
It can also bring dragons back to life, control them, be used to make magical uber-warriors, and be used to make "the machines of doom." .
The Hierophant wrote...
The Maker evil?
No No No and NO!
Modifié par The Xand, 03 novembre 2013 - 08:41 .
___________________The Xand wrote...
With Bioware's story telling skills I'm convinced they can create a story around the Maker that will please us all. If someone had told me they could take the Catholic and Orthodox churches and their Great Schism and make them wildly fascinating before I'd played Dragon Age I would have laughed my arse off.
I didn't say that it was bad, even though it really is for the pedastal that it builds;I said that it makes less sense than if they had just left it alone. What's "awesome" does not determine what is good.The Xand wrote...
Br3ad wrote...
It can also bring dragons back to life, control them, be used to make magical uber-warriors, and be used to make "the machines of doom." .
That's bad how?
zMataxa wrote...
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Yup. They have done amazing well allright.
But I'm gonna hold my reservation on whether they could unfold a "Maker" explanation (assuming they go that route vs leaving it vague and mysterious with the odd clue to add speculation) that can please all.
If they go the ME series direction, there could be a HUGE uproar.
There may be virtual blood gushing on the forums - courtesy of some staunch advovcates.
Modifié par The Xand, 03 novembre 2013 - 08:49 .
The Xand wrote...
The Hierophant wrote...
The Maker evil?
No No No and NO!
Unleashing the Blights was a bit of a dick move. Although I believe that was an accident.
The Xand wrote...
Br3ad wrote...
It can also bring dragons back to life, control them, be used to make magical uber-warriors, and be used to make "the machines of doom." .
That's bad how?
Modifié par Dabrikishaw, 03 novembre 2013 - 08:56 .
zMataxa wrote...
____________Jedi Master of Orion wrote...
The Maker fits just fine into the World of Dragon Age. But the nature of the gods of the setting are not the central theme of Dragon Age. The story is not about them. It's about their worshipers.
Not so far. But it could be setting up for it.
ME series - that Bioware studio in general is not afraid to tackle the biggest questions.
At the very least, it sure got people talking.
I think people forget - that at the end of the day - they're just looking for stimulation.
And the best kind is sometimes in line with Nietsche's expression "what deson't kill you makes you stronger".
That's how I see the ME3 ending and possibly how this whole Maker theme could play out.
Same here. My main issue with the possibility of an evil god like entity is that it's an overused concept in fantasy.The Xand wrote...
The Hierophant wrote...
The Maker evil?
No No No and NO!
Unleashing the Blights was a bit of a dick move. Although I believe that was an accident.
Br3ad wrote...
I didn't say that it was bad, even though it
really is for the pedastal that it builds;I said that it makes less
sense than if they had just left it alone. What's "awesome" does not
determine what is good.
__________________The Xand wrote...
zMataxa wrote...
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Yup. They have done amazing well allright.
But I'm gonna hold my reservation on whether they could unfold a "Maker" explanation (assuming they go that route vs leaving it vague and mysterious with the odd clue to add speculation) that can please all.
If they go the ME series direction, there could be a HUGE uproar.
There may be virtual blood gushing on the forums - courtesy of some staunch advovcates.
Bioware always seem to be damned if they do and damned if they don't. I think people just need to let them tell their own story, rather than going nuts when a story isn't told as they'd expected it to.
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The Xand wrote...
The Hierophant wrote...
The Maker evil?
No No No and NO!
Unleashing the Blights was a bit of a dick move. Although I believe that was an accident.
The Old Gods themselves (Dumat) are more likely responsible for the blight than The Maker
Modifié par zMataxa, 03 novembre 2013 - 08:51 .
The Xand wrote...
Br3ad wrote...
I didn't say that it was bad, even though it
really is for the pedastal that it builds;I said that it makes less
sense than if they had just left it alone. What's "awesome" does not
determine what is good.
What is awesome always determines what is good.
God of War had like a dozen different deicides and was all the better for it.
The Flying Grey Warden wrote...
zMataxa wrote...
____________Jedi Master of Orion wrote...
The Maker fits just fine into the World of Dragon Age. But the nature of the gods of the setting are not the central theme of Dragon Age. The story is not about them. It's about their worshipers.
Not so far. But it could be setting up for it.
ME series - that Bioware studio in general is not afraid to tackle the biggest questions.
At the very least, it sure got people talking.
I think people forget - that at the end of the day - they're just looking for stimulation.
And the best kind is sometimes in line with Nietsche's expression "what deson't kill you makes you stronger".
That's how I see the ME3 ending and possibly how this whole Maker theme could play out.
That which doesn't kill you makes you stronger, but that deosn't mean you should actively find things that kill you and try to get more of them.
Mass effect had a terrible ending, arguably one of the most rushed and incoherent since AI, but without the foced warm and fuzzies so you're just left with wondering what the creators were smoking when they came up with this.
I really don't want dragon age to become the next big dissapointment in gaming.
Modifié par zMataxa, 03 novembre 2013 - 08:58 .
Nothing left to see here folks.The Xand wrote...
Br3ad wrote...
I didn't say that it was bad, even though it
really is for the pedastal that it builds;I said that it makes less
sense than if they had just left it alone. What's "awesome" does not
determine what is good.
What is awesome always determines what is good.
God of War had like a dozen different deicides and was all the better for it.
The Flying Grey Warden wrote...
The Xand wrote...
Br3ad wrote...
I didn't say that it was bad, even though it
really is for the pedastal that it builds;I said that it makes less
sense than if they had just left it alone. What's "awesome" does not
determine what is good.
What is awesome always determines what is good.
God of War had like a dozen different deicides and was all the better for it.
Saints row the third thought like this, and it didn't turn out too well.
Modifié par The Xand, 03 novembre 2013 - 08:59 .
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