ul 2016 - 03:09 AM, said:
For one thing, I never understand why Conner is used as an example for mages being dangerous. He's basically had no education. How could anyone expect him to know better if he wasn't properly taught?
He is an example because he is a little boy with no particularly strong magical skills who all it took for him to destroy an whole village was for his dad to get sick, a perfectly normal occurrence that most people will have to go through.
And what about Thrask's daugther? Educated, still became an Abomination when threatened. And what of Uldred, Senior Enchanter, Abomination.
The matter of fact is that any mage could become an Abomination when presented with stress or temptations and there are literally thousands of sources of stress in the world that don't involve Templars. If what is required is for mages to lead a trouble free life that the free don't enjoy in order for them to not become a threat, then it's impossible.
Spirit Vanguard, on 08 Jul 2016 - 03:09 AM, said:
He didn't get the chance to learn because of Circle fears -- and because he's nobility and law and all that jazz. Education is key. I don't believe the Circle is made to understand magic, the Fade, spirits or demons. It's designed just to keep the lid on the pot, and that's not how something as delicate and complicated as magic should be handled. If the Circles are more like schools, then mages wouldn't fear to go and they would still be monitored.
He didn't get the chance to learn because his mother was a over controlling, naive, stupid woman who couldn't bear to be separated from her baby for two seconds and decided that all the warnings about magic were exaggerated.
Isolde would never have been satisfied unless Connor could inherit Redcliff and live there and if that was the case, then the Circle would be ineffective and pointless.
Your last line... egh. Am I talking to Vivienne?
Vivienne is right about almost everything she says.
Mages already live outside the Circle all time. Apostates that blend in and never cause trouble -- as seen with the Mage's Collective.
1-The mage collective? You mean the group who are totally not blood mages but could you please warn our member by painting blood on their doors?
Kthanks
Yeah.
2-There is quite a bit of difference between a minuscule percentage of the mage population that manage to evade both Templars and demons and keep a low profile, avoiding using magic in order to not call attention to themselves and every single mage in Thedas because free to go wherever they please and use magic whenever they want.
The numbers are not the same, the mentality is not the same, the social consequences are not the same.
First of all, we would have a much greater number of mages exposed to a much greater number of people which would inevitably lead to some of them falling to demons and harming innocents and second, we would have mages more inclined to use magic to abuse others due to a shift in mentality where they can use it in public and thus why shouldn't they and a decrease in fear of Templar retaliation.
Rivaini seers with all their spirit knowledge and practices.
Which include ruling over man, Word of Thedas volume 1.
Giving a random Joe" magic is not quite an accurate comparison. A mage that comes into magic is naturally different than someone without. When they learn to control their abilities, what demons are and how to protect themselves they're already living on a different plain.
Now you're contradicting yourself. First, you say that mages are just like other people, with all the faults and desires that are intrinsic to human being, but now you say they aren't.
It might be more accurate to say that more young mages die due to ignorant lynchings than un-educated mages killing those around them through accident.
Meredith's sister killed 72 people, God alone knows how many Connor killed.
Find me 72 mages that were lynched by peasants.
Not everyone can be protected and saved, true,
So, not everyone can be protected and saved but that doesn't mean we shouldn't seek to minimise the risks by separating mages from civilians?
Because the lives of those without magic are less important than the freedoms of mages?
So I ask you, then, is life-imprisonment for every mage in existence really the ideal solution?
Ideal, no? But there is no better option.
That clearly hasn't worked.
It clearly has given that several nations ruled by people without magic exist and Abominations are a rare occurrence.
Again, let’s look at Meredith’s sister. A single mage without any real talent becomes an Abomination outside of the Circle, 72 people die.
Now, Uldred, a powerful Senior Enchanter is possessed by the most powerful type of demon in existence, he forces dozens of other mages to be possessed, raises the dead, summon demons, charms Templars and there were zero civilian casualties. Why, because he was in a Circle.
Evidently, the Circle works.
If the idea is that people as a whole are too untrustworthy to have magic, then why bother keeping them around at all?
We can't kill people just because they are born with magic, that is horrible.
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