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[Seboist]

Ravensword wrote...

I like how Shepard has to rely on a bunch of people whose individual psychological states are not conducive to the success of the mission.

Not as bad as recruiting said people for a complete unknown because TIM said so.

[dreamgazer]

David7204 wrote...

Uh, no. 'Daddy issues' are not there for the purpose of connecting characters to the audience by similarities. That's silly.

Why is it silly, Professor 7204? Please educate me with your infinite wisdom. 

[David7204]

No, I don't think that's the reason either.

[Seboist]

dreamgazer wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

ME2 not dark or edgy? Ask this guy if it wasn't dark or edgy

How is that dark or edgy? Is pushing killers out windows dark and edgy now?

By that point, Shepard has the option of quite literally being responsible for genocide and recklessly mowing down Zhu's Hope. That's nothing but loose change, isn't it?

It's not only that but after slaughtering dozens upon dozens of his buddies in an unprovoked attack,what's the big deal with killing one more?

[Mr.House]

StreetMagic wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

My Shepard has the biggest daddy issues, batarians killed him.

Did you play Ruthless too?

You where able to commit genocide, wipe out a whole colony, betray a STG team by not helping them and sending enamies their way and allowing a power vacum to open in ME. Sorry but pushing somebody out the window is nothing compared to that.

[Ravensword]

Seboist wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

I like how Shepard has to rely on a bunch of people whose individual psychological states are not conducive to the success of the mission.

Not as bad as recruiting said people for a complete unknown because TIM said so.

Shepard just wanted to cruise around the galaxy in the SSV Daddy Issues, so he had to accept TIM's mystery mission in order to do so.

[Darks1d3]

dreamgazer wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Uh, no. 'Daddy issues' are not there for the purpose of connecting characters to the audience by similarities. That's silly.

Why is it silly, Professor 7204? Please educate me with your infinite wisdom. 

You may regret those words......

[dreamgazer]

Seboist wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

ME2 not dark or edgy? Ask this guy if it wasn't dark or edgy

How is that dark or edgy? Is pushing killers out windows dark and edgy now?

By that point, Shepard has the option of quite literally being responsible for genocide and recklessly mowing down Zhu's Hope. That's nothing but loose change, isn't it?

It's not only that but after slaughtering dozens upon dozens of his buddies in an unprovoked attack,what's the big deal with killing one more?

I can respect the situation being slightly different than taking out his buddies during a firefight, since you're making an active choice to somewhat sadistically shove 'em out the window when you don't have to.  But a ReneShepard has far more significant notches on his/her belt. 

[Seboist]

StreetMagic wrote...

I'll just say that Wrex has the best daddy issue story. I'm not against or anything. It's just overdone with a lot of the characters. The first time I cured the genophage though, it really hit me when Wrex pointed to the spot where he shot his dad. It was cool seeing that whole story reach that point from the first game.

That occured? Sounds like a nice touch(he was killed in 1 in my game).

[dreamgazer]

Darks1d3 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Uh, no. 'Daddy issues' are not there for the purpose of connecting characters to the audience by similarities. That's silly.

Why is it silly, Professor 7204? Please educate me with your infinite wisdom. 

You may regret those words......

Nevah.

[Mr.House]

dreamgazer wrote...

Seboist wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

ME2 not dark or edgy? Ask this guy if it wasn't dark or edgy

How is that dark or edgy? Is pushing killers out windows dark and edgy now?

By that point, Shepard has the option of quite literally being responsible for genocide and recklessly mowing down Zhu's Hope. That's nothing but loose change, isn't it?

It's not only that but after slaughtering dozens upon dozens of his buddies in an unprovoked attack,what's the big deal with killing one more?

I can respect the situation being slightly different than taking out his buddies during a firefight, since you're making an active choice to somewhat sadistically shove 'em out the window when you don't have to.  But a ReneShepard has far more significant notches on his/her belt. 

Well he's not saying anything, no point to waste chance and take the risk he'll warn his buddies.

[Seboist]

dreamgazer wrote...

Seboist wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

ME2 not dark or edgy? Ask this guy if it wasn't dark or edgy

How is that dark or edgy? Is pushing killers out windows dark and edgy now?

By that point, Shepard has the option of quite literally being responsible for genocide and recklessly mowing down Zhu's Hope. That's nothing but loose change, isn't it?

It's not only that but after slaughtering dozens upon dozens of his buddies in an unprovoked attack,what's the big deal with killing one more?

I can respect the situation being slightly different than taking out his buddies during a firefight, since you're making an active choice to somewhat sadistically shove 'em out the window when you don't have to.  But a ReneShepard has far more significant notches on his/her belt. 

Problem is, it's a choice between killing him and foolishly letting letting an enemy roam free in the middle of the battle.  Between those two options, the former is a no brainer.

Should have been an incapacitate option there.

[Darks1d3]

Seboist wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

I'll just say that Wrex has the best daddy issue story. I'm not against or anything. It's just overdone with a lot of the characters. The first time I cured the genophage though, it really hit me when Wrex pointed to the spot where he shot his dad. It was cool seeing that whole story reach that point from the first game.

That occured? Sounds like a nice touch(he was killed in 1 in my game).

Sucks for you, Wrex was a more interesting character than Wreav. Though if you usually go for a renegade shep, I guess sabotaging the genophage with Wreav in power makes a lot more sense and is a little more satisfying.

[dreamgazer]

Seboist wrote...

Problem is, it's a choice between killing him and foolishly letting letting an enemy roam free in the middle of the battle.  Between those two options, the former is a no brainer.

Should have been an incapacitate option there.

I agree, but that falls in the realm of meta-gaming. My Paragon Shepard would have done the bolded, had it been an option after deciding not to kill. I mean, we're in the business of punching salarians, so ...

(Melisandre and Cid Shepard, however, don't take any chances).

Modifié par dreamgazer, 04 novembre 2013 - 04:18 .

[David7204]

The hero follows a pattern. A path.

One of the tenets of that path is loneliness. The hero is a lonely man. Separate from the world around him, as if he's somehow crooked. In fact, it's the world that's crooked. The hero is honest.

You see no patten? Liara admits Shepard is the only friend she has left. Garrus outright tells Shepard she's his only friend. Thane admits he's never made a friend in 10 years. Shepard herself appears to have no friends at the start of the story.

The hero is lonely.

Having no family is simply one step further to cement that.

[rekn2]

Best Plot: ME1
Best Characters: ME2 though i like a lot of the me1 characters as they were in me1
Best Main Enemy (Geth in ME1,
Collectors in ME2, and Reapers in ME3. Secondary elements like Cerberus
or mercenaries does not count here.): me1 geth but the collectors in me2 were awesome as well. of course outside the context of me3 (being worthless and in the end  a filler). after speaking with legion after the SM i felt the reapers were actually scary
Best Locations (Both hubs and non-hubs count): ME2- my only gripe of me2 was over all plot but everything else including design was better in me2
Best Atmosphere: ME1 and me2
Best Gameplay: me2...FUN and replayability.
Best Sidequests (UNC, N7): ME2- enjoyed the loyalties and i felt the quests fit their characters but i thought it was odd with such a powerful enemy. with extinction as the  penalty for failure it was tough for me to accept this.
Best Narrative (The structure of The Story; The way it is presented): me1
Best Exploration (I remind you all that exploration does not only consist of driving around in the Mako or Hammerhead): ME2- though me1 was awesome for the planets, i hated the handling of the vehicle but finding stuff was cool.

And then the worst, which can also mean least best if you want to;

Worst Plot: ME3, but me2 is pretty bad as well
Worst Characters: ME3, they changed a lot of them, fundamentally
Worst Main Enemy: me3, changing the reapers into robots, as apposed to the cthulu-esque entities they were
Worst Locations: i dont feel like i was every really disappointed
Worst Atmosphere: same
Worst Gameplay: same
Worst Sidequests: same
Worst Narrative: me3 by far
Worst Exploration: me3 some of the locations seemed to "on rails"

[Darks1d3]

Seboist wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Seboist wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

ME2 not dark or edgy? Ask this guy if it wasn't dark or edgy

How is that dark or edgy? Is pushing killers out windows dark and edgy now?

By that point, Shepard has the option of quite literally being responsible for genocide and recklessly mowing down Zhu's Hope. That's nothing but loose change, isn't it?

It's not only that but after slaughtering dozens upon dozens of his buddies in an unprovoked attack,what's the big deal with killing one more?

I can respect the situation being slightly different than taking out his buddies during a firefight, since you're making an active choice to somewhat sadistically shove 'em out the window when you don't have to.  But a ReneShepard has far more significant notches on his/her belt. 

Problem is, it's a choice between killing him and foolishly letting letting an enemy roam free in the middle of the battle.  Between those two options, the former is a no brainer.

Should have been an incapacitate option there.

Honestly, I usually let him live. Not a very alert mercenary, so I figure darwinism will take it's course later anyways.

[rekn2]

David7204 wrote...

The hero follows a pattern. A path.

One of the tenets of that path is loneliness. The hero is a lonely man. Separate from the world around him, as if he's somehow crooked. In fact, it's the world that's crooked. The hero is honest.

You see no patten? Liara admits Shepard is the only friend she has left. Garrus outright tells Shepard she's his only friend. Thane admits he's never made a friend in 10 years. Shepard herself appears to have no friends at the start of the story.

The hero is lonely.

Having no family is simply one step further to cement that.

ok that makes no sense, you just named 4 friends shep has...thats not lonely

[teh DRUMPf!!]

dammit... double post.

Modifié par HYR 2.0, 04 novembre 2013 - 04:19 .