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[Crilloan]

 Replaying the whole trilogy and in need of some advice.
Finally playing sentinel and finding it loads of fun in ME1 and starting in ME2.
I played Virmire last so I have a save to go back to reset my choise, but gaming time is severely limited (family, kids etc...)

In my preivous playthroughs I have always saved williams, but I saved Alenko this time (and felt like a complete ****hole afterwards...)

Im not romancing any one (certainly not kaidan) of them and my question is straight up, which one is more interesting to have onboard normandy in ME3? Which one is most useful for a Sentinel?

Glad for responses.

C

[Nero Narmeril]

Kaidan is sentinel too, but it depends on your preferences.

If you need solid weapon power, take Ash, since James is only pure soldier if you sacrifice Ash on Virmire.

If you want biotic combos, take Kaidan. Reave + Throw = big boom.

[cap and gown]

I like Kaiden for my Sentinel. He has area Reave while you have Throw. BOOM! Also, another shield stripper around. Ash is OK for tech explosions with CS, and FE with inferno grenade and chain overload. Still I think Kaiden is the better squad mate on the battlefield.

On the Normandy I found Kaiden to be kind of whiny.

[Crilloan]

Thank you for your replies.

I'm playing on hardcore if that makes any difference.
I've recently found out about the joy of biotic and tech explosions :-)

In ME1 I used ash and wrex to a large part, good firepower. But so far in ME2 I find that my sentinel packs enough punch in firefights even when I'm using mordin and miranda.

I really don't remember if you need more firepower in ME3?

In my only run through on ME3 I played Infiltrator,fun roleplaying, but sniping makes the game rather easy.

To bad you can't have miranda with you on normandy in ME3..

C

[cap and gown]

Miranda in ME2 is awesome. If you haven't played with her in the Arena, believe it or not, she becomes even more awesome in ME3. Instead of Slam, she gets Reave and Incinerate. Damn I wish I could have her as a full-fledged squad mate. Kaiden pales in comparison.

Mordin is actually pretty good. His place is more or less taken by EDI in ME3.

Modifié par cap and gown, 04 novembre 2013 - 02:14 .

[capn233]

It depends on how you want to play the Sentinel in ME3. Kaidan is probably better if you want biotic explosions (even though Liara is a lot better, and arguably Javik), but Ash is better if you want tech explosions since she has Concussive Shot which will detonate any tech combo, and she can give you Disruptor Ammo.

[cap and gown]

capn233 wrote...

It depends on how you want to play the Sentinel in ME3. Kaidan is probably better if you want biotic explosions (even though Liara is a lot better, and arguably Javik), but Ash is better if you want tech explosions since she has Concussive Shot which will detonate any tech combo, and she can give you Disruptor Ammo.

The main problem I see with Ash and CS is that if you are using the neural shock evolution against mooks, then they often fall down behind cover where you can't target them. Minor problem, but still an issue to consider.

[brad2240]

Crilloan wrote...

which one is more interesting to have onboard normandy in ME3? Which one is most useful for a Sentinel?

Ash has one funny scene on the Normandy but pretty much nothing else besides her romance scenes, which you say you won't have. Kaiden has more conversations with Shepard and more interactions with other crew members. I'd say he is more interesting to have on the ship by a fair margin.

In combat both are solid characters and useful to have on the team. Kaiden can combine with you for biotic explosions and is another shield stripper, which frees up the other slot on the team for anybody you want. Ash brings an ammo power, a great detonator and a good grenade power. Unfortunately, I think what she brings to the table is a little redundant for a Sentinel. Not useless, but redundant. You already have your own great detonator, your own great grenades, and biotic explosions that outclass any AoE Ash can do. I give Kaiden the edge.

[frustratemyself]

I'm doing my first run of ME3 with Ashley alive. I'm not playing sentinel but I'm enjoying Ash's inferno grenades for the dot and fire explosions. I'm up to priority rannoch and Ash has been pretty quiet while on the Normandy but I'm playing femshep so no romance.

I think Kaidan is more interesting when on the Normandy but I often romance him so that probably varies things a bit. I did like having reave available with Kaidan but iirc it had a fairly long cooldown which bugged me.

[Ninna]

Having also played sentinel, I was disappointed when playing ME3 having left Ashley alive. In terms of character content I preferred Kaidan. He has more development. And in terms of combat, in case I wanted a more soldierish character I'd tend to choose James over Ashley.

[cap and gown]

esterula wrote...

Having also played sentinel, I was disappointed when playing ME3 having left Ashley alive. In terms of character content I preferred Kaidan. He has more development. And in terms of combat, in case I wanted a more soldierish character I'd tend to choose James over Ashley.

Spec Ash for maximum weapon damage, assault rifle damage. Give her weapon damage armor. She is deadly. Plus her CS is more useful than Jame's Carnage since its cool down is half as long. And she can carry as many grenades as James. Great for fire explosions.

[viper_veteran]

Kaiden is definitely better sorry Ashley. I had a few playthroughs one of which I saved kaiden and on ME3 he is just better especially if you play a sentinel/adept/vanguard class. It boils down to this

C-Shot v. Reave
Marksman v. Barrier
Inferno Grenades v Cryo Blast
Disruptor rounds v. Overload

[cap and gown]

viper_veteran wrote...

Kaiden is definitely better sorry Ashley. I had a few playthroughs one of which I saved kaiden and on ME3 he is just better especially if you play a sentinel/adept/vanguard class. It boils down to this

C-Shot v. Reave
Marksman v. Barrier
Inferno Grenades v Cryo Blast
Disruptor rounds v. Overload

Ashley's Marksman is bugged. Don't put any points in it. Not sure I would go Barrier with Kaiden. Cool down is already long enough. CS is significantly faster than Reave, but Reave can have a wide AoE.

I do agree, though, I found Kaiden to be somewhat better. Ash is still ok.

[brad2240]

cap and gown wrote...

viper_veteran wrote...

Kaiden is definitely better sorry Ashley. I had a few playthroughs one of which I saved kaiden and on ME3 he is just better especially if you play a sentinel/adept/vanguard class. It boils down to this

C-Shot v. Reave
Marksman v. Barrier
Inferno Grenades v Cryo Blast
Disruptor rounds v. Overload

Ashley's Marksman is bugged. Don't put any points in it. Not sure I would go Barrier with Kaiden. Cool down is already long enough. CS is significantly faster than Reave, but Reave can have a wide AoE.

I do agree, though, I found Kaiden to be somewhat better. Ash is still ok.

I agree.

Trying to directly compare Kaiden to Ashley is not a good idea, IMO. They do completely different things and they don't have equivalent powers.

Speaking of Barrier, I usually skip it. Defense powers cripple teammate cooldowns. James's Fortification is the only one I regularly spec.

[cap and gown]

brad2240 wrote...


Speaking of Barrier, I usually skip it. Defense powers cripple teammate cooldowns. James's Fortification is the only one I regularly spec.

What about Wrex? I always max his Barrier for max damage reduction. He is going to be in the thick of it, so I make him as durable as possible, both in Barrier and his class.

[capn233]

Reave is really only decent if you are a biotic.

Overload can be had from Garrus and EDI.

Inferno Grenades are one of the best squad grenade powers.

[brad2240]

cap and gown wrote...

brad2240 wrote...


Speaking of Barrier, I usually skip it. Defense powers cripple teammate cooldowns. James's Fortification is the only one I regularly spec.

What about Wrex? I always max his Barrier for max damage reduction. He is going to be in the thick of it, so I make him as durable as possible, both in Barrier and his class.

I don't have the Citadel DLC.

[2Pac]

Too bad you can't leave them both.

[happy_daiz]

alliance commander wrote...

Too bad you can't leave them both.

[SlottsMachine]

Kaidan on both accounts in regards to ME3.

[SlottsMachine]

happy_daiz wrote...

alliance commander wrote...

Too bad you can't leave them both.

[viper_veteran]

brad2240 wrote...

cap and gown wrote...

viper_veteran wrote...

Kaiden is definitely better sorry Ashley. I had a few playthroughs one of which I saved kaiden and on ME3 he is just better especially if you play a sentinel/adept/vanguard class. It boils down to this

C-Shot v. Reave
Marksman v. Barrier
Inferno Grenades v Cryo Blast
Disruptor rounds v. Overload

Ashley's Marksman is bugged. Don't put any points in it. Not sure I would go Barrier with Kaiden. Cool down is already long enough. CS is significantly faster than Reave, but Reave can have a wide AoE.

I do agree, though, I found Kaiden to be somewhat better. Ash is still ok.

I agree.

Trying to directly compare Kaiden to Ashley is not a good idea, IMO. They do completely different things and they don't have equivalent powers.

Speaking of Barrier, I usually skip it. Defense powers cripple teammate cooldowns. James's Fortification is the only one I regularly spec.

That would be true but in context of using a sentinel as the main character and choosing between those two then it is necessary. Kaiden offers more to a sentinel due to his biotic and tech offensive abilities that harmonise well with another sentinel whereas ashley lacks the biotic element completely.

[brad2240]

viper_veteran wrote...

That would be true but in context of using a sentinel as the main character and choosing between those two then it is necessary. Kaiden offers more to a sentinel due to his biotic and tech offensive abilities that harmonise well with another sentinel whereas ashley lacks the biotic element completely.

Trying to directly compare them means you're trying to shoe-horn them into exactly the same role on the team. But they don't fill the same role, they're completely different characters that bring different synergies to the team, which is true regardless of what class you're playing.

Sure Ashley may lack biotics, but she brings two new elements to a Sentinel Shepard's gameplay: an ammo power and fire explosions. Sentinel Shep still has all the biotics he needs. Kaiden is largely a repetition of what Shep can already do, he makes things easier but doesn't really bring anything new. Different synergies.  

If we're looking at Kaiden vs. Ashley on a purely mechanical basis, then we should consider what other teammate(s) we'll bring regularly. If we're bringing Liara or Javik then Kaiden is almost completely redundant and Ashley brings more to the table. If James or Garrus is going to be on the team, Ashley loses some value and Kaiden is the preferred choice.