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[MOTpoetryION]

At the end battle  i never even got around to needing or using the dwarfs at all. Oh well at least i made the little guys walk all that way for nothing. hahaha  So i guess it was OK . Anyone else think the end was a little to easy ? I did it on normal too

[BroBear Berbil]

Well, just because you don't call on them doesn't mean they're not participating in the battle. We're led to believe that the Battle of Denerim is an enormous conflict and the troops you can call on are a very small portion of the assorted armies.



On to your other point, yes the ending is very easy even on Nightmare. Of course all of the Darkspawn in the first area are meant to be fodder but the Archdemon was pretty laughable.

[Lenimph]

yeah i sorta felt the same way mainly because i didn't like the ozammar quest aside from the actual looking for branka part... There should have been a option to just go and try to find her herself without all that other political bs

[Gold Dragon]

Hehe....

I killed off 35 of the Dwarves, 4 Elves, and 1 mage. The Humans from Redcliffe all survived.

Not to mention the fact that Arl Eamon bit the dust and had to be revived.....

Modifié par A Golden Dragon, 20 janvier 2010 - 06:04 .

[MOTpoetryION]

golden dragon, how did you manage that i was only able to use one group at a time untill they all died . Then i was able to call the next group did i miss something ?

[Gold Dragon]

MOTpoetryION wrote...

golden dragon, how did you manage that i was only able to use one group at a time untill they all died . Then i was able to call the next group did i miss something ?

You missed out.

I used NO troops against the Generals themselves.  Only me and my companions (varies).

In the Defend the Gates segment, I used the Redcliffe Soldiers.  NO fatalities.
In the Palace District, I used the Dwarves (15 survived).
In the Fort Drakon District, I used the Elves (Most survived).
In the Final Battle against the Archdemon, I used the Mages.  1 Mage and Arl Eamon perished.  Eamon was revived at the end.

Hey!  It worked, and the Grey Wardens are supposed to kill the Archdemon at ANY COST...:innocent:

[MOTpoetryION]

i didnt use any troops for the gate defence and ended up with a achievement for saving half lol . And used the redcliff guys at fort drakon most died but a few and final battle used the mages till they died and won with the elves . and where was arl emon at i dont remember seeing him ?

edit: what i mean is how were you able to use a different group when there were still guys in the group alive

Modifié par MOTpoetryION, 20 janvier 2010 - 06:39 .

[Gold Dragon]

He, First Enchanter Irving, and several others (like the Leader of the Legion of the Dead) have a chance of showing up in the Battle directly against the Archdemon.

I usually get Irving and Eamon.

I, too, got the achievement for preserving the lives of half the defenders at the gate.  WHen I used absolutely NO additional forces.

EDIT to answer your edit:  I didn't.  I used one force per area.  the Dwarves were used only in the Palace District, for example.

Modifié par A Golden Dragon, 20 janvier 2010 - 06:41 .

[MOTpoetryION]

wow i totaly missed seeing them . i was a little busy though. and anyone know what attack the archdemon was using ? that purple stuff?
edit: oh ok i get it know thanks . me only using one group down below diddnt know when porting into a different area that it s resest kinda ok thank

Modifié par MOTpoetryION, 20 janvier 2010 - 06:47 .

[Gold Dragon]

Dragonfire. It burns (as I got hit by it plenty of times. And from Flemeth as well).

[SuperMedbh]

Ha. All my dwarves died last time because I got the brilliant idea of launching the Storm of the Century, whereupon the little guys charged the darkspawn caught in it.



Tactics, my dear dwarves, tactics.

[MOTpoetryION]

well it being purple i was just wondering if it was like spirit dmg or something like that 
edit : ya friendly fire stinks imo

Modifié par MOTpoetryION, 20 janvier 2010 - 06:50 .

[wwwwowwww]

Why would you want to shorten it? Hell I'm running around trying to figure out how to make it longer!

[MOTpoetryION]

i was saying in contex of i could of just not done the dwarfs at all because i diddnt use them in the end battle

[TyroneTasty]

MOTpoetryION wrote...

i was saying in contex of i could of just not done the dwarfs at all because i diddnt use them in the end battle

Those quests should all have the option of telling the prospective allies to go screw themselves. You could just lie to Eamon about how you got all the allies you needed, after you told everyone in the kingdom you didn't need them. Resulting in the worst possible ending - The Archdemon wins! It would go down in history as the route of Denerim.

Modifié par TyroneTasty, 20 janvier 2010 - 08:47 .

[MOTpoetryION]

ya i mean who cares about denerim anyway i don't live there lol That would be funny to see though you trying to take down the archdemon alone ,thats counting on that you just Tell all companions to take a hike also

[ArathWoeeye]

It's true that the combat goes on in the city and we just see two parts of it, but it still was easy. I mean.. it's not about difficulty. It's that.. you face the exact same type of mobs and group of mobs that you encounter for the rest of the game (like 1-2 casters and/or 1-2 alpha and/or a troll with half a dozen-ish normal mobs) but you are given extra men. and now, most of the mobs die in one shot.



I thought "okay, these are normal group of mobs, I guess there will be a place where I'll need reinforcements, like a BIG group of mobs"...before I knew it, I was fighting archdemon, so I called mages not because I needed help, but because I could and I wondered how it worked.



Speaking of it, I had dwarves, elves, arl's soldiers and mages. But there was one slot empty. Which groups can you recruit? I believe you can recruit werewolfs INSTEAD OF elves.. Eamon's soldiers are always there I guess. Maybe templar? Or golems? Are they alternatives or can be used with others?

[Darkened Dragon]

templars would be instead of magi ... golems instead of dwarves ..... werewolves instead of elves I believe

[Elanareon]

golemns and dwarves actually

[Tikonov]

You can recruit Golems for the final battle if you didnt destroy the anvil of the void:)



The troops at the end are literally useless, on my last playthrough i had gatherd all possible ally but not donated a single thing to the crates so i could test the system out.



First shot, gave all the sides everything they requested - bought all runes from shops/removed all mine for the mages, all gems to dwarves, elf donations are easier since you can buy them in unlimited so i bought about 100 golds worth along with giving them all the things i had collected for them in the world over the game and gave 500 gold to the humans.



Tested all the allys in each of the 'end battles' with both my save file where i had poured an entire games worth of items/wealth into them and a save where i had given nothing to any of the sides



The biggest difference ? about 1-4 less unit losses on the call-in-allies sides in any of the final battles.



Save your runes/gems/gold/ingredients for yourself!